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went out with the wife at 6am. dropped the traps out first and then cruised over to the cap. fished from the mouth to the lighthouse and pulled the rods and gear up at 530 with only one shaker. I threw everything at them except the wife!! That was the worst day. Heard the boys on the radio did well out at t10 and the sandheads, was also trying to figure out the other locations that they limited out at buy just not enough info. Top it off, only 2 crabs worth throwing in the box. Did get to watch the sunset anchored in the bay over a bottle of merlot with the wife so------- priceless!!

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quote:Originally posted by flytyer

went out with the wife at 6am. dropped the traps out first and then cruised over to the cap. fished from the mouth to the lighthouse and pulled the rods and gear up at 530 with only one shaker. I threw everything at them except the wife!! That was the worst day. Heard the boys on the radio did well out at t10 and the sandheads, was also trying to figure out the other locations that they limited out at buy just not enough info. Top it off, only 2 crabs worth throwing in the box. Did get to watch the sunset anchored in the bay over a bottle of merlot with the wife so------- priceless!!

cheers

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So yesterday T-10 was dead but Cap was hot and today Cap was dead and T-10 hot. Go figure.
 
I think Flytyer 's report was for yesterday Aug 3rd and not today (because todays sunset hasn't happened yet) Correct flytyer?? T10 was good on Aug 2nd but yesterday Aug 3rd was slow and nasty water ( we had to leave the area yesterday after 45 min due to seasick passenger)Only shakers a dog and friggin red jelly fish "hits". Didn't hear any afternoon reports from T1o yesterday and nothing today yet from T1o. We moved to Bell yesterday and picked up a very nice Sockeye released and a small spring plus 2 other good hits/pops crossing the harbour....same guy went in and out with seasickness so finally pulled the plug.
Also a note: ran into fisheries in zodiac off Pt. Atkinson. 3 officers in boat watching cliff divers - I won't mention anything about the fact enforcement officers should maybe be spending attention elswhere ;)
 
Sorry forgot to mention that all morning was very slow for all the boats I talked to who hung in there in the rough water at T1o yesterday, especially as compared to the day before, so not sure who would have said it was good there yesterday morning unless the days were being mixed up ????
 
Fishing is better than it is.... the problem is that recreational anglers don't get on the water enough to experience the "bites" which come on and usually miss it by a day or two.

I ran into a couple of local forum members (on this thread) down at the Marina on Monday and this was my advice to them...

Based on the numbers of Springs getting up the river et al...I'd be focussing efforts off the Coal Ports to T10...the problem is that recently the tides are working overdrive....and pushing the fish around and putting them off in a big way. As well..there are high tides at night...which really moves the fish upstream.

I'm at work this week...but I called around for the scuttlebutt on local fishing this morning and there were some great results..... if you can fish at the slacks in the Coal Ports to T10 area...DO IT and put in a good effort. Get out first thing in the morning..after work..whatever..make the time and get out and fish!!!

The best thing to use is Anchovies behind flashers..and hands down this will produce the best results for the next 6 weeks. Never mind the rest of the gear---Anchovies or Herring is the word...period.

As for the Cap...would you rather fish a spot which coughs up 2 springs a tide or would you rather fish an area with potentially an opportunity at dozens of springs?

One of the reasons the local guides are so successful for Springs is that they're dead on consistent and spend their time focussing on an area---and Anchovies are by far doing the most damage.

Some argue that Anchovies are expensive---consider this....if you spend a $100 on Anchovies and it puts 4x as many fish in your cooler as tackle...it's a great investment no?

My tips were to those guys looking for springs...

1. Anchovies--brine them up no more than 2 days before...fresh bait does wonders. If you're going to go through the trouble of fishing bait..fish them on ALL lines.
2. Anchovy rigs...tie them up and get them ready to go.
Favorite colour heads for right now: Chartreuse, Straight Chrome, Glow Green. Sharp Hooks...if you don't own a good hook sharpener...get one...and fast. Buy the best hooks you can afford...and don't tell me you can't afford Owner or Gamakatsu or Eagle Claws... have triple the number of pretied rigs as you do lines fishing...you want to be ready to go when you get a tangle, dogfish/whatever.
3. Fish the tide changes---never mind whether it's mid day or not..get out and fish it. Put in your time....if you get discouraged from a slow day on the water...overcome your defeat and GET OUT FISHING. Charters and Guides don't go without skunkings every now and then.
4. Fish Depths from 40 to 80 feet...usually not deeper.
5. Fish a 7 foot leader. Some of the guys were fishing a 4-5 foot leader. These fish can be flasher shy...fish flashers on all lines..
6. If you're catching too many dogfish..you need to fish faster!!!! Dogfish need to roll over almost on their backs to get a Chovy. Consider moving if you're wasting time with Doggies.

One of these guys was a real novice to fishing for these springs.....and he had obviously spent a lot of money and been outfitted with some great gear from local tackle shops...and I'd recommend the following.

If you're interested in learning more.. consider a group charter where you can sit back and relax and enjoy a few brews and let the guides work hard at sending you home with fish. You can even mine some info from them buy going on a charter to see technique and gain insight as to why they catch fish regularly) Local charter rates are inexpensive enough that you're actually coming out ahead by chartering as by the time you fork out the $$$ for launch/parking, gas for truck and boat, $14 for 2 packs of 'Chovies, et al.... Charter rates for local operations are the lowest on the coast.

I'd recommend assembling your family/friends and splitting the cost among 2 to 4 people---and when you look at it that way...there are no fights---no disagreements, no lost gear, and no friendships jeopardized! LOL)

My recommendations for local charter firms are (google them yourself for contact info)..in no particular order.:

Predator Charters (this guy catches fish!)
BonChovy Fishing Charters (saw these folks bonking a few fish recently--highliners!!! sheesh!)
Bonnie Lee Charters (bonking some nice fish as well)
Bites-On Charters (Bonking Tyees and seeking them out)
M and M Charters (Mas---what a great guy!)
Watermark Charters (Mark...... what a fish monger)
Sewell's Marina (What a bunch of cool folks)

Book a 6 to 8 hour charter with any of these firms and tell them that you SPECIFICALLY WANT TO FISH FOR SPRINGS OFF THE FRASER RIVER MOUTH. Structure this around the slack tides. Explain to them that you're local and want big fish. I'm sure any of these Charter operations will work extra hard for you to get you fish. If you don't catch---I'm sure it will not be because of incompetence or lack of effort.

Also, the time is NOW...get out and fish while the fish are here....not 2 months from now, not 6 weeks from now, but in the next 3 weeks.

Over the last 5 days there have been excellent numbers of fish moving into the Fraser and the tides have conspired against those fishing for these fish.

Anyways, to the great folks I met yesterday, get out and fish and TIGHT LINES! See you on the water!!!

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quote:Originally posted by Peahead

I think Flytyer 's report was for yesterday Aug 3rd and not today (because todays sunset hasn't happened yet) Correct flytyer?? T10 was good on Aug 2nd but yesterday Aug 3rd was slow and nasty water ( we had to leave the area yesterday after 45 min due to seasick passenger)Only shakers a dog and friggin red jelly fish "hits". Didn't hear any afternoon reports from T1o yesterday and nothing today yet from T1o. We moved to Bell yesterday and picked up a very nice Sockeye released and a small spring plus 2 other good hits/pops crossing the harbour....same guy went in and out with seasickness so finally pulled the plug.
Also a note: ran into fisheries in zodiac off Pt. Atkinson. 3 officers in boat watching cliff divers - I won't mention anything about the fact enforcement officers should maybe be spending attention elswhere ;)

Yes they should be focussing attention elsewhere...like the guys in an old 70's Command Bridge fishing 100% Sockeye gear and hauling them over the stern with no net yesterday. I'm pretty sure they weren't pinks either... too bad you chickens didn't have a K number on your boat---maybe that's why!!!!
 
Nice write up FM. I live on the west side of Vancouver, keep my boat in Victoria and only fish Sooke or Nootka Sound normally. I might change that next year and leave my boat in False Creek and give it a shot here based on your write up.

Matador
 
Good post and great advice! Thanks FM!

"The charm of fishing is that it is the pursuit of what is elusive but attainable, a perpetual series of occasions for hope."
 
quote:Originally posted by fishin_magician

quote:Originally posted by Peahead

I think Flytyer 's report was for yesterday Aug 3rd and not today (because todays sunset hasn't happened yet) Correct flytyer?? T10 was good on Aug 2nd but yesterday Aug 3rd was slow and nasty water ( we had to leave the area yesterday after 45 min due to seasick passenger)Only shakers a dog and friggin red jelly fish "hits". Didn't hear any afternoon reports from T1o yesterday and nothing today yet from T1o. We moved to Bell yesterday and picked up a very nice Sockeye released and a small spring plus 2 other good hits/pops crossing the harbour....same guy went in and out with seasickness so finally pulled the plug.
Also a note: ran into fisheries in zodiac off Pt. Atkinson. 3 officers in boat watching cliff divers - I won't mention anything about the fact enforcement officers should maybe be spending attention elswhere ;)

Yes they should be focussing attention elsewhere...like the guys in an old 70's Command Bridge fishing 100% Sockeye gear and hauling them over the stern with no net yesterday. I'm pretty sure they weren't pinks either... too bad you chickens didn't have a K number on your boat---maybe that's why!!!!
Wouldn't the R.C.M.P. or D.F.O. come out if you gave them a call? And yes, thanks for the write up.
 
I got a late start along the West Van shoreline but had success again today. Landing a 23lb spring helps me get over losing a cannon ball to a damn crab trap!
I'm starting to get used to the flavour of salty anchovies. After I rig one up my fingers sting from the salt on all my little cuts and I tend to suck on them to kill the pain. It's all good though.
I think I need a bigger cooler!
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Thanks FM!
Invaluable info...I for one have been fishing too a short a leader, may as well try a little longer and see what happens.

Getbent
 
Maybe I saw you out there last night Salmon smoker, another boat held up a nice fish. Had a solid fish on that broke off my 20 lb leader, changed that in a hurry. We waited for the tide change and then boated a nice fish, 25 lb chinook. Using coyote spoons at 50 feet on the wire, West Van shore. I think we were the last boat out there.
 
quote:Originally posted by fishin_magician

Yes they should be focussing attention elsewhere...like the guys in an old 70's Command Bridge fishing 100% Sockeye gear and hauling them over the stern with no net yesterday. I'm pretty sure they weren't pinks either... too bad you chickens didn't have a K number on your boat---maybe that's why!!!!

I was out for a run yesterday around 5 or so going by the Vanier Launch/Kits Point and I think I may have seen that boat coming in to False Creek? Almost looked like the command bridge was an 'after thought' on the boat? The hardtop and command bridge had a different appearance in colour?

Oh....and FM....GREAT post on the last page!! ;) I am eagerly awaiting my buddy I fish with to get back from cruising up towards Desolation to get out there and give er' a whirl!
 
quote:Originally posted by eastpoint

Maybe I saw you out there last night Salmon smoker, another boat held up a nice fish. Had a solid fish on that broke off my 20 lb leader, changed that in a hurry. We waited for the tide change and then boated a nice fish, 25 lb chinook. Using coyote spoons at 50 feet on the wire, West Van shore. I think we were the last boat out there.
I was on a blue & white SeaRay with a blue canvas top. When I left there were maybe 2 or three boats still out. I tried, unsuccessfully, to get back to Port Moody before dark.
 
If someones pulling sockeye, and the boat doesnt have a license to identify it... take a picture at least. I hear from a knowledgeable neighbor that the americans have taken a ton of sockeye this year out of the waters up north...?!?
 
FM.

Great post and some info, I would have been over that way if it was not so lumpy, as i didnt want to wear my wifes breakfast. haha. Some days fishing is not good, cant explain it, Moon?. I will be out thursday after work, though it all depends on the weather as to were i go. I always launch at granville so its not a bother.
Anyone else going out?

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quote:Originally posted by Pippen

quote:Originally posted by fishin_magician

Yes they should be focussing attention elsewhere...like the guys in an old 70's Command Bridge fishing 100% Sockeye gear and hauling them over the stern with no net yesterday. I'm pretty sure they weren't pinks either... too bad you chickens didn't have a K number on your boat---maybe that's why!!!!

I was out for a run yesterday around 5 or so going by the Vanier Launch/Kits Point and I think I may have seen that boat coming in to False Creek? Almost looked like the command bridge was an 'after thought' on the boat? The hardtop and command bridge had a different appearance in colour?

Oh....and FM....GREAT post on the last page!! ;) I am eagerly awaiting my buddy I fish with to get back from cruising up towards Desolation to get out there and give er' a whirl!

That sounds about right...it may have been a Bayliner or something or other..I was just peeved about the fact that they were most likely Sox since a buddy hooked 6 of them in that area on Spoons without even trying. The pink crushed ice flashers and pink squirts were dead giveaways.

I'm thinking on heading out tomorrow after work, then Friday after work if tomorrow night is good.
 
Well I tried same program tonite, 3 solid hits but no fish landed. Less bait and fish marked on the sounder. Just keep fishing I geuss.

Eastpoint
 
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