thanks fishflyguy and sammyslabber. I have to get a hernia repaired and I'm told I can't lift anything over 5 lbs for a month at least. How that's going to work with two little ones running around, I have no idea. I'm getting it done now so I can be right ready for some hali and then the springs! I can't wait! I wanted to get out today, but kids were sick. I'm envious of all you guys that got out. Hope you feel better soon Sammy, that can be nasty. Maybe I'll pm u while I'm sitting on my butt doing nothing for a month.