SOOKE Reports, Fall/Winter 2010/2011

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Waters and I were in whirl yesterday too. Lots of feeders holding, but the bites were spuratic. They would hit, stop, hit ,stop and were finding that they didn't want to bite and stick. Fun none the less when the wind didn't sting. Good table fare for sure. Love the new rig Trev. You can play football out the back.
 
Was out today for about 3 hours and hooked into about 12 springs keeping 4 around 6-8 pounds and releasing the others. Also had 5 crabs in the trap on the way back in. Out in front of the harbour about 160' right on bottom with bait.
 
Easy fishing

'Bout the same for us yesterday too... Seemed to get better the closer we got to Otter. 135-150ft didn't seem to matter about the relation to bottom. All spoons for us
 
Newsletter article dated February 1, 2011 that may be of interest to us BC Anglers - this could happen to us!

Alaska Slams Door Shut on Barn Door Halibut!

Dateline – Alaska, Areas 2C & 3A (Southeast & South Central Alaska – The usual group of Federal alphabet soup fisheries agencies once again issued devastating news about halibut fishing this year. NOAA, NMFS, IPHC teamed up to close the door on legally keeping halibut over 37-inches.

Alaska now has a new Charter Halibut Permit program that will eliminate about 35% of the halibut charter businesses. Many of these “Mom & Pop” charters will just go out of business. The new CHP permit was made available to skippers/charters who could verify a history in the sport halibut fishery dating back to 2004.

Those who could prove their history received free permits from NMFS. These permits can be sold, causing a supply in demand situation for skippers and charter businesses who need extra angler permits.

At press time these permits were selling for $5,000 or more per angler permit. Supply and demand will no doubt drive charters rates higher as anglers outnumber permits during prime dates. However, the question remains whether sport anglers will pony up more than $185 per person to catch just one small halibut 37-inches or smaller. In terms of pounds per fish, the biggest halibut an angler could catch would weigh just 20 to 24-pounds. Eyeballing halibut in the water will be next to impossible and require anglers to unnecessarily handle halibut out of the water to put a tape measure on them.

From a sports fishing and conservation point of view this will not work for the halibut or anglers. To the contrary, commercial anglers will not be allowed to keep fish under 37-inches, which in my opinion puts another wedge between commercial and sports anglers.

Under the new law any licensed guide will not be able to retain fish unless they are fishing aboard a vessel that has CHP permits. Additionally, anyone who accepts gas money, donuts, or anything in trade will be considered a charter, which by legal definition will require the skipper to have a CHP permit to keep halibut. Any skipper who did not qualify for a CHP or could not afford one will be prohibited from halibut fishing, even for personal use.

My Thoughts About Commercial Individual Fishing Quotas Commercial anglers own fishing quotas. These problems about quotas stem from a group who are allowed to own a percentage of a public resource. Unlike farmers who own, lease or rent land for crops, commercial anglers harvest in public waters. And unlike farmers, commercial anglers do not plant seeds or eggs in this case, and nurture their crop. Commercial halibut anglers do not contribute equally per pound to the economy either. As halibut fishing continued to gain popularity among sports anglers they harvested more pounds of halibut. The alphabet soup agencies who set harvest levels then must adjust harvest based on these user groups as well as subsistence anglers.

Sports anglers typically harvest about 12 percent of the total allowable harvest. When the harvest goes over by either group harvest levels must be reduced. In Alaska the commercial lobby is so powerful sports anglers don’t have a prayer for equity and equal treatment. Sport Anglers should stand together and let all of these government agencies and politicians know how they feel about these new regulations.

Call them, write them and e-mail them with your feelings about these ridiculous new halibut rules in Southeast Alaska!

Agencies to Contact Regarding Sport Halibut Fishing Regulations http://www.fakr.noaa.gov/contactinfo.htm
http://www.iphc.washington.edu/contacts.html
http://www.adfg.state.ak.us/

Savy
 
you guy better read this may come our way

Alaska Halibut Fishing Regulations Alert!



Alaskan Halibut Limits and Size Restrictions Detailed Feb 1 2011
Alaska Slams Door Shut on Barn Door Halibut!
Dateline – Alaska, Areas 2C & 3A (Southeast & South Central Alaska – The usual group of Federal alphabet soup fisheries agencies once again issued devastating news about halibut fishing this year. NOAA, NMFS, IPHC teamed up to close the door on legally keeping halibut over 37-inches.

Alaska now has a new Charter Halibut Permit program that will eliminate about 35% of the halibut charter businesses. Many of these “Mom & Pop” charters will just go out of business. The new CHP permit was made available to skippers/charters who could verify a history in the sport halibut fishery dating back to 2004.

Those who could prove their history received free permits from NMFS. These permits can be sold, causing a supply in demand situation for skippers and charter businesses who need extra angler permits.

At press time these permits were selling for $5,000 or more per angler permit. Supply and demand will no doubt drive charters rates higher as anglers outnumber permits during prime dates. However, the question remains whether sport anglers will pony up more than $185 per person to catch just one small halibut 37-inches or smaller. In terms of pounds per fish, the biggest halibut an angler could catch would weigh just 20 to 24-pounds. Eyeballing halibut in the water will be next to impossible and require anglers to unnecessarily handle halibut out of the water to put a tape measure on them.

From a sports fishing and conservation point of view this will not work for the halibut or anglers. To the contrary, commercial anglers will not be allowed to keep fish under 37-inches, which in my opinion puts another wedge between commercial and sports anglers.

Under the new law any licensed guide will not be able to retain fish unless they are fishing aboard a vessel that has CHP permits. Additionally, anyone who accepts gas money, donuts, or anything in trade will be considered a charter, which by legal definition will require the skipper to have a CHP permit to keep halibut. Any skipper who did not qualify for a CHP or could not afford one will be prohibited from halibut fishing, even for personal use.

My Thoughts About Commercial Individual Fishing Quotas Commercial anglers own fishing quotas. These problems about quotas stem from a group who are allowed to own a percentage of a public resource. Unlike farmers who own, lease or rent land for crops, commercial anglers harvest in public waters. And unlike farmers, commercial anglers do not plant seeds or eggs in this case, and nurture their crop. Commercial halibut anglers do not contribute equally per pound to the economy either. As halibut fishing continued to gain popularity among sports anglers they harvested more pounds of halibut. The alphabet soup agencies who set harvest levels then must adjust harvest based on these user groups as well as subsistence anglers.

Sports anglers typically harvest about 12 percent of the total allowable harvest. When the harvest goes over by either group harvest levels must be reduced. In Alaska the commercial lobby is so powerful sports anglers don’t have a prayer for equity and equal treatment. Sport Anglers should stand together and let all of these government agencies and politicians know how they feel about these new regulations.

Call them, write them and e-mail them with your feelings about these ridiculous new halibut rules in Southeast Alaska!

Agencies to Contact Regarding Sport Halibut Fishing Regulations http://www.fakr.noaa.gov/contactinfo.htm
http://www.iphc.washington.edu/contacts.html
http://www.adfg.state.ak.us/
 
Sounds like several DFO policy-makers have defected to Alaska.
This would never fly here especially with the wrath of the newly formed 'Coalition' set upon them.
 
Fishing in Sooke today was great.
Fished for 2.5 hours, landed 7 keepers, kept 4 and the biggest were 10lb & 14lb. The fish were on bottom and they prefer the faster speed with squirts. Lots of action and no rain.
Crabbing was also excellent, we got our limit and released a few.

http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc361/dndfishing/IMG_0009.jpg


BE AWARE, THAT OVER THE LAST FEW WEEKS LOTS OF ITEMS FROM BOATS HAVE BEEN STOLEN IN THE SOOKE AREA. DOWNRIGGERS ARE THE TARGET..
 
Winter Chinooks

Went out from Sooke yesterday too and caught our first winter Chinooks! Fished for 3.5 hours in total but could not get anything on squirts/hootchies. All four bites came to anchovy around 130' in 140' of water or so. Let one small one go and kept two 8 pounders. This beginner is making progress........8-)
 
Good on ya Englishman, don't forget to throw the crab trap out the crabbings been real good.
 
Way to go EM, glad to hear you broke your streak. Stealing one of No Bananas lines: "even a blind squirrel can find a couple of nuts now and then" :-)

Like I said before, when the reports say the fish are in, get out there!
 
I just heard of a new halibut derby

is anybody know about a new halibut derby from Jock dock or crab shack
when is it
would like more info please
 
The Derby is on March 12 and 13th ,$50 a rod , $5000 1st 2500 for 2nd and $1000 for 3rd,it is a none profit derby with the remaining proceeds going to the new Charters Creek hatchery program and SFI, the venue will be shared between Jock's Dock which is the official weigh in station and Sooke harbour resort ,there will be food vendors hoping for the Lions Club to put on the food,Live Band ,silent aution,with all major tackle stores supporting this ,its going to be a great thing for the sooke community and a breath of fresh air from other (for profit derbies with very little going back into are resource) tickets are at all the tackle stores Jocks dock (Crab Shack)
 
Well lets hear one.......
Ill be out Sun/Mon..... maybe

Extended Forecast

Issued 04:00 AM PST 10 February 2011 Saturday Wind southwest 25 knots.
Sunday Wind southwest 25 knots increasing to southeast 25 to 35.
Monday Wind south 20 knots increasing to southeast 35 to 45 late in the day.
 
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Lipripper: where is that report from? Here's what the americans are saying for central strait....a little more do-able:
SAT...E WIND 15 TO 25 KT...BECOMING W IN THE AFTERNOON. WIND WAVES 2 TO 4 FT.
SUN...W WIND 10 TO 15 KT BECOMING E. WIND WAVES 1 OR 2 FT.

Bigwavedave is calling it breezy sat am, then ok rest of the weekend...though that's still days away, so who knows.

Sorry fishflyguy...wish I had a report to pass along...I hope to get out there this weekend, if the stars align and the gods smile on me.
 
That's from Enviro Can........ Should know better than trust them lol...... I usually stick my head out the window
 
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