How to unload Chinese tin boats

lol, never buying a tin boat, they just hired me to
Pull them out of the c can and put them on the boat trailers, the buyers know what they bought and are fully confident on the purchase, from what I could see (lots I did not) I don’t think they are as junky as people think they are at a fraction of the price, it sure got a lot of attention from this crew 😂😂
 
Fisher_dude said:
All depends on who’s welding and how much knowledge they have on the process. The top could be a pro and the bottom a beginner. Most manufacturers are using some sort of pulsed mig setup these days and then tig for some of the more technical areas. Where you run into the issues is when your bosses expect a certain amount of work to be done in a day and you feel rushed and start to move faster without changing your setting and the pulses start getting further apart so you’re not getting the proper coverage and weld reinforcement. When I was looking to purchase my first boat, I wanted to support local and buy a KF. I looked at a LOT of their boats in that time period and was turned off by every single one.
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I was asking because in my limited experience the top looks like a nice TIG and the bottom looks like someone was trying to make MIG look like TIG, which usually results in really ****** welds unless you’re really really good.
 
I don't have a dog in this fight.

I think that StabiCraft was one of the first companies to suffer copycat appearing boats coming out of China

stabicraft.com

Stabicraft Copy | China Boats | Stabicraft

After more than 3 decades of evolution, Stabicraft has Chinese Chinese-basedaft imitators producing so-called "Stabi Copy" boats. Read the full article here.
stabicraft.com stabicraft.com

We were able to upgrade our power on our build from twin 150s to twin 200's when the individual who had ordered the twin 200's saw his boat arrive from China and It was the wrong colour.

Like the others discussed, it required final assembly (i.e. Welding the two halfs of the hull together in Canada)

He wanted the manufacturer to cover the cost repaint his boat, but they refused and said that they would send him a boat that was the correct colour the next year so his motors became available.
 
Bill 310 said:
I don't have a dog in this fight.

I think that StabiCraft was one of the first companies to suffer copycat appearing boats coming out of China

stabicraft.com

Stabicraft Copy | China Boats | Stabicraft

After more than 3 decades of evolution, Stabicraft has Chinese Chinese-basedaft imitators producing so-called "Stabi Copy" boats. Read the full article here.
stabicraft.com stabicraft.com

We were able to upgrade our power on our build from twin 150s to twin 200's when the individual who had ordered the twin 200's saw his boat arrive from China and It was the wrong colour.

Like the others discussed, it required final assembly (i.e. Welding the two halfs of the hull together in Canada)

He wanted the manufacturer to cover the cost repaint his boat, but they refused and said that they would send him a boat that was the correct colour the next year so his motors became available.
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Ok let’s get it a bit clear to all, the rep has been phoning me every day for 3 days straight , directly from china, I would need an interpreter to be able to understand exactly what she is saying, once you order the boat ( half down cash) the other half when the boat hits the container in china,once it’s gone you basically stuck with what you get , from what I can understand, so you have make 100% sure before it leaves china, again something to think about, definitely not for me. I just posted this cause the subject was mention in other treads, so this is first hand info, take it as a discussion subject not a push to import Chinese boat here, all I am getting from this is when others hit Vancouver they will get unloaded by me lol💰💰
 
Is there any warranty on these Chinese built boats? If so, how do you get warranty work done?

If no warranty then I say run away from these things fast!! Could be a big waste of money in the long run...
 
Whole in the Water said:
Is there any warranty on these Chinese built boats? If so, how do you get warranty work done?

If no warranty then I say run away from these things fast!! Could be a big waste of money in the long run...
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I would have to read the contract, but I think it would be hard to get warranty considering origin, shipping cost is like 5k each way, probably cheaper to get the welders from KF to fix them here 🙄🙄🙄
 
brutus said:
Ok let’s get it a bit clear to all, the rep has been phoning me every day for 3 days straight , directly from china, I would need an interpreter to be able to understand exactly what she is saying, once you order the boat ( half down cash) the other half when the boat hits the container in china,once it’s gone you basically stuck with what you get , from what I can understand, so you have make 100% sure before it leaves china, again something to think about, definitely not for me. I just posted this cause the subject was mention in other treads, so this is first hand info, take it as a discussion subject not a push to import Chinese boat here, all I am getting from this is when others hit Vancouver they will get unloaded by me lol💰💰
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Brutus, your input on this topic, and the structure of the purchasing of these boats has been extremely helpful. Much to my delight I now get to use a Latin phrase that sums up things up.

"Caveat Emptor."


"Buyer beware" is a common law doctrine, or legal principle, that places the burden on buyers to perform due diligence before making a purchase. The Latin phrase for "buyer beware" is caveat emptor, which translates to "let the buyer beware".


The principle of "buyer beware" is a fundamental part of commerce and contractual relationships between buyers and sellers. It means that buyers are responsible for ensuring that a good or service meets their needs and is not defective before making a purchase. If a buyer fails to perform due diligence, they are not entitled to remedies for damages if the purchased product has significant defects.


"Buyer beware" applies to many types of transactions, including real property, cars, and items at thrift stores or yard sales. In real property transactions, "buyer beware" relates to adverse situations that may arise after the closing date.
 
Bill 310 said:
Brutus, your input on this topic, and the structure of the purchasing of these boats has been extremely helpful. Much to my delight I now get to use a Latin phrase that sums up things up.

"Caveat Emptor."


"Buyer beware" is a common law doctrine, or legal principle, that places the burden on buyers to perform due diligence before making a purchase. The Latin phrase for "buyer beware" is caveat emptor, which translates to "let the buyer beware".


The principle of "buyer beware" is a fundamental part of commerce and contractual relationships between buyers and sellers. It means that buyers are responsible for ensuring that a good or service meets their needs and is not defective before making a purchase. If a buyer fails to perform due diligence, they are not entitled to remedies for damages if the purchased product has significant defects.


"Buyer beware" applies to many types of transactions, including real property, cars, and items at thrift stores or yard sales. In real property transactions, "buyer beware" relates to adverse situations that may arise after the closing date.
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The smartest remark I’ve had since starting this tread, and you did the research and bough a Jaxoncraft if I am not mistaken
 
Whole in the Water said:
Is there any warranty on these Chinese built boats? If so, how do you get warranty work done?

If no warranty then I say run away from these things fast!! Could be a big waste of money in the long run...
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I've seen good warranty stories to those that made a stink online about it. There's a whole Facebook page dedicated to the issues.
 
I am sure there is lots, nobody on here’s has bough one and there is already story’s lol, it like an episode of the VIEW 😜😜
 
Bill 310 said:
Brutus, your input on this topic, and the structure of the purchasing of these boats has been extremely helpful. Much to my delight I now get to use a Latin phrase that sums up things up.

"Caveat Emptor."


"Buyer beware" is a common law doctrine, or legal principle, that places the burden on buyers to perform due diligence before making a purchase. The Latin phrase for "buyer beware" is caveat emptor, which translates to "let the buyer beware".


The principle of "buyer beware" is a fundamental part of commerce and contractual relationships between buyers and sellers. It means that buyers are responsible for ensuring that a good or service meets their needs and is not defective before making a purchase. If a buyer fails to perform due diligence, they are not entitled to remedies for damages if the purchased product has significant defects.


"Buyer beware" applies to many types of transactions, including real property, cars, and items at thrift stores or yard sales. In real property transactions, "buyer beware" relates to adverse situations that may arise after the closing date.
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Caveat Emptor doesn't excuse the seller from misrepresenting their product, or being deliberately deceptive to make the sale though. Not saying that is or is not happening with these boats, I don't have nearly enough experience to have an opinion on them. But - at least when I looked into it in the context of used vehicles - buyer beware isn't quite as cut and dried as all that. You would have to be able to prove they were deliberately deceptive, which is of course very difficult to do - but just as there is an onus on the buyer to do their due diligence, there is an onus on the seller to honestly present their product.

*Edit - obviously the risk is way higher on the buyer side, no one is arguing that
 
The point I am trying to make is a lot bash the boat before even looking at one, lots of overpriced production boats being sold here both Glass and tin, in my experience the bigger outfits are all about profit ( they really don’t give a rats butt what they are pushing) as long as they sell and make a profit, whoever thinks otherwise is delusional, it’s up to the buyer to decide, you spend 100k or 30 k for the same size boat, some are happy to fish out of a 30k boat and some need the 100k boat, the china built thing is kind of stigma we all have, but let’s be real china suplies a lot of our everyday stuff and lots is fine , lots is crap, example on my side Milwaukee tools, I own thousands of $ worth , I just dropped of a bunch for repairs ( warranty and broken parts) guess what they are waiting for parts, parts are from china lol, Oh really the American icon Milwaukee tools parts are coming from china ???does that make Milwaukee a piece of s…. Tool ????IMO no it’s the best on the market. Again this was an example, if you think your local bought boat component are made in Canada or the the US you need to educate yourself, same goes for quality of the welders welding your tin boat some are good some are bad and bigger outfit don’t give a dam who’s welding it as long as it sells
 
brutus said:
The point I am trying to make is a lot bash the boat before even looking at one, lots of overpriced production boats being sold here both Glass and tin, in my experience the bigger outfits are all about profit ( they really don’t give a rats butt what they are pushing) as long as they sell and make a profit, whoever thinks otherwise is delusional, it’s up to the buyer to decide, you spend 100k or 30 k for the same size boat, some are happy to fish out of a 30k boat and some need the 100k boat, the china built thing is kind of stigma we all have, but let’s be real china suplies a lot of our everyday stuff and lots is fine , lots is crap, example on my side Milwaukee tools, I own thousands of $ worth , I just dropped of a bunch for repairs ( warranty and broken parts) guess what they are waiting for parts, parts are from china lol, Oh really the American icon Milwaukee tools parts are coming from china ???does that make Milwaukee a piece of s…. Tool ????IMO no it’s the best on the market. Again this was an example, if you think your local bought boat component are made in Canada or the the US you need to educate yourself, same goes for quality of the welders welding your tin boat some are good some are bad and bigger outfit don’t give a dam who’s welding it as long as it sells
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Take it for what it’s worth but after almost 20 years welding stainless stuff for Kingfisher, we saw dozens of guys come through our shop. If they couldn’t cut it working with stainless the boss sent them over to Kingfisher. Not all of them got jobs there but a lot did.
 
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