How to unload Chinese tin boats

[SpringVelocity]

The point I am trying to make is a lot bash the boat before even looking at one, lots of overpriced production boats being sold here both Glass and tin, in my experience the bigger outfits are all about profit ( they really don’t give a rats butt what they are pushing) as long as they sell and make a profit, whoever thinks otherwise is delusional, it’s up to the buyer to decide, you spend 100k or 30 k for the same size boat, some are happy to fish out of a 30k boat and some need the 100k boat, the china built thing is kind of stigma we all have, but let’s be real china suplies a lot of our everyday stuff and lots is fine , lots is crap, example on my side Milwaukee tools, I own thousands of $ worth , I just dropped of a bunch for repairs ( warranty and broken parts) guess what they are waiting for parts, parts are from china lol, Oh really the American icon Milwaukee tools parts are coming from china ???does that make Milwaukee a piece of s…. Tool ????IMO no it’s the best on the market. Again this was an example, if you think your local bought boat component are made in Canada or the the US you need to educate yourself, same goes for quality of the welders welding your tin boat some are good some are bad and bigger outfit don’t give a dam who’s welding it as long as it sells

100 percent agree.

 

[Shineyshiney]

Also, I have 2 red seal trades under my belt, both revolving around welding and metal and I wouldn’t own a KF. I also live in the valley they are built in. I’ve seen some interesting cases with them. They have a hard time keeping good welders employed. Any boat manufacturer that doesn’t cover up the center of their last whip/pulse/dab isn’t worth owning.

I'm looking into a kingfisher- can you elaborate further? What alternatives would you suggest? Was considering a KF 2025 HT

 

[kaelc]

I'm looking into a kingfisher- can you elaborate further? What alternatives would you suggest? Was considering a KF 2025 HT

Pretty good deal right now on Hewescraft Searunner 21 hard top with locking door at Sherwood Marine. 120k

 

[zurk]

the KF will be like $30-40K cheaper at ~$90K list than Hewescraft. idk if hewes has that much better quality (at least not $40K worth).
ive not had any issues to complain about on my KF after 6 years so YMMV. no welds have cracked or split even with taking her into fairly nasty ocean conditions. https://www.boattrader.com/boat/2024-kingfisher-2025-escape-ht-9319292/

 

[Rain City]

the KF will be like $30-40K cheaper at ~$90K list than Hewescraft. idk if hewes has that much better quality (at least not $40K worth).
ive not had any issues to complain about on my KF after 6 years so YMMV. no welds have cracked or split even with taking her into fairly nasty ocean conditions. https://www.boattrader.com/boat/2024-kingfisher-2025-escape-ht-9319292/

I really liked the feel of the bigger 28+ Hewes over the KF at the boat show. For whatever that's worth.

 

[Aquaholic]

I really liked the feel of the bigger 28+ Hewes over the KF at the boat show. For whatever that's worth.

I have a friend with lots of ownership and build experience that said something similar. He loved that Hewes.

 

[Fizzishin]

I bought a pair of earbuds from china once. Great deal, until they fell apart in my ear.

Get what you pay for, and the cheap man always pays twice.

 

[Shineyshiney]

the KF will be like $30-40K cheaper at ~$90K list than Hewescraft. idk if hewes has that much better quality (at least not $40K worth).
ive not had any issues to complain about on my KF after 6 years so YMMV. no welds have cracked or split even with taking her into fairly nasty ocean conditions. https://www.boattrader.com/boat/2024-kingfisher-2025-escape-ht-9319292/

This one is USD I presume?

 

[SpringFever2359]

I really liked the feel of the bigger 28+ Hewes over the KF at the boat show. For whatever that's worth.

2 cents

 

[macro]

Not to hate as I know next to nothing about these hulls but I did see a new one sink while tied to the dock this week. Assumption was a through hull fail or cracked weld. No access below hull so makes for tough inspections.

Did they figure out what failed and caused it to sink?

 

[kaelc]

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Bigger boat than the kingfisher. Play each dealer off each other. Kingfisher is trying to sweeten the pot with kickers on their bigger models.

I'm looking into a kingfisher- can you elaborate further? What alternatives would you suggest? Was considering a KF 2025 HT

 

[Shineyshiney]

2023 Hewescraft Sea Runner 210 SR ET HT BH | Sherwood Marine Centre

2023 Hewescraft Sea Runner 210 SR ET HT WE DON'T REST ON OUR LAURELS - WE MAKE WAVES Already a household name, our tough and agile Sea Runner is upping the ante for mid-sized boats everywhere. We’ve widened the hull to help get you out of the water faster, improve planing, and decrease...

www.sherwoodmarine.com

Bigger boat than the kingfisher. Play each dealer off each other. Kingfisher is trying to sweeten the pot with kickers on their bigger models.

What do you mean by play each dealer off? Never bought brand new before. Wondering if boat Show would be a good place. **Sorry if I'm taking this off topic - can start a new thread**

 

[Shineyshiney]

Was going to head to GA since they have a deal apparently on the searunner! Thanks @kaelc for that boat recommendation

 

[kaelc]

Was going to head to GA since they have a deal apparently on the searunner! Thanks @kaelc for that boat recommendation

Nice. Agreed another thread would be good. I had a 2006 searunner 18’ and loved it. This is a different beast. Good luck

 

[brutus]

Did they figure out what failed and caused it to sink?

Was going to head to GA since they have a deal apparently on the searunner! Thanks @kaelc for that boat recommendation

Boat show is a great place, you get to see all the boats side by side, nit pick all the brands and price then go from there, I’ve never bought a new boat do you get to sea trial it??? Asking for guys who have bought new ??? Honest question, I know if I did not sea trial some potential boats I would have been stuck with real a…. Ridding boats lol

 

[Capt. Jack]

Oh good cause they made in china lol

But I've got a fly rod combo from them.

 

[RiverBoy]

6.2 metre, profisher. They have a good market in Australia, the buyersTold me, been in biz for over 10 years, 40kUS landed at my yard for both boats, they are heavy for the size at 3200 lbs 1/4 inch bottom

there’s one of those up here in CR. talked to the owner many times. the thing is a tank.

 

[brutus]

there’s one of those up here in CR. talked to the owner many times. the thing is a tank.

Lol, first hand info, all the crew here will disagree with you, can’t be its from china

 

[RiverBoy]

Lol, first hand info, all the crew here will disagree with you, can’t be its from china

after the second world war, japan was pumping out all sorts of products to north america. cameras, cars, tools etc. they were cheap, functional. they slowly ramped up their quality to the point, nobody questions anything made in japan anymore. (Shimano, Daiwa Datsun, toyota honda )

i feel like china is doing the same. it may take 20 more years, until they get there. the bigger impact is on the economy but i’m not going there.

BTW if anyone wants to see a scary documentary, youtube the walmart freighter. ( not sure if that’s the exact name) this is a monstrosity of a super freighter that sails to north america offloading goods direct to our walmart. it has special paint on the hull designed to be more fuel efficient etc.

this freighter SAILS BACK TO CHINA EMPTY, a practice quite uncommon in the shipping industry, to try and maximize their profits. that’s how much stuff is imported into US by just one ship.

 

[RiverBoy]