Commander 26 Re Build

[Sttr]

Are you planning on putting stainless fittings in the deck and outlets

Definitely stainless thru the hull. I haven’t looked at all my options yet, same for the deck and hatch outlets. The hatch is easy, straight down it’s mounted high, will drain nice. With my deck lowered I’m thinking I will need a 90 on the deckside to have a nice transition the the hull and still keep it 3” above the water line.

 

[ship happens]

Can always troff them right out the side

 

[ship happens]

If it were me I would do somthing along the lines of this, except I would not do the inner stainless part. Cut the glass out on a rectangular shape with rounded corners and make some stainless clamshells. Or fiberglass ones like what this guy did.

We have similar scuppers in the venture without the clamshells. It's our release program. If a fish can fit through the scupper it's not a keeper lol

 

[Sttr]

Got the first stringer fit into place today. From factory there was a wedge in the front, got rid of that and fitted the whole stringer flush against the hull. Man… was there a lot of grinding, got a little head start on preparing the other stringers also. I have it flush with the floor right now but will be removing close to 1/4 inch length wise to make space for glass and polybond. Before I cut this 1/4 inch I will use it as a temple for the other side and fit accordingly from there. In between trying to finish my work week on Wednesday
And these stringers, I’m trying to make her look pretty, starting to fill up areas with a gel coat paste. A little bit here and there should add up nicely by the end of the week.

 

[Sttr]

Using spruce for the stringer, from production it was exactly 18 feet, the one I got is 18’ 2”, just enough to cut it 13 degrees at the transom and have it 18’ ,one piece stringer from front to back

 

[Rain City]

Are you drying them further before install?

 

[kaelc]

Got the first stringer fit into place today. From factory there was a wedge in the front, got rid of that and fitted the whole stringer flush against the hull. Man… was there a lot of grinding, got a little head start on preparing the other stringers also. I have it flush with the floor right now but will be removing close to 1/4 inch length wise to make space for glass and polybond. Before I cut this 1/4 inch I will use it as a temple for the other side and fit accordingly from there. In between trying to finish my work week on Wednesday
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With cuts like that your are ready to start building Tolman Super Jumbos. What electronics are you going with? Looks like garmin packages are the most affordable right now.

 

[Sttr]

Are you drying them further before install?

It seems super dry and light. The plan is to coat it with resin and a bit of acetone over night. If the wood is wet it won’t dry overnight… we will see

 

[Sttr]

With cuts like that your are ready to start building Tolman Super Jumbos. What electronics are you going with? Looks like garmin packages are the most affordable right now.

I’m leaning towards to the evo 3

 

[Rain City]

It seems super dry and light. The plan is to coat it with resin and a bit of acetone over night. If the wood is wet it won’t dry overnight… we will see

I'm assuming that gap on the original ones was because they weren't completely dry. I don't know what the industry standard is for boat building for moisture percentage but that KD Spruce might still be as high as 12% even if it looks dry.

 

[Corbin]

I'm assuming that gap on the original ones was because they weren't completely dry. I don't know what the industry standard is for boat building for moisture percentage but that KD Spruce might still be as high as 12% even if it looks dry.

The stringers in the Canoe Coves were all laminated marine ply, I think they were about 6 inches thick on the 42's. The guys would spend hours with a power plainer shaping them.

I've had some severe shrinkage with spruce, so hard to get good wood these days.

 

[Sttr]

The stringers in the Canoe Coves were all laminated marine ply, I think they were about 6 inches thick on the 42's. The guys would spend hours with a power plainer shaping them.

I've had some severe shrinkage with spruce, so hard to get good wood these days.

So that’s most likely the cause of the gap between the glass and the stringer? The wood eventually drys, shrinks and splits away from the glass?
Just curious, how did you realize there was severe shrinkage

 

[walleyes]

With out sounding critical can I ask why you would choose spruce over fir for the stringers. Fir I would think is far better for this application. And if you went spruce why not go the extra and go treated lumber.

 

[Sttr]

With out sounding critical can I ask why you would choose spruce over fir for the stringers. Fir I would think is far better for this application. And if you went spruce why not go the extra and go treated lumber.

It’s a pretty critic part of the boat… ask away. I was advised I can use spruce and many have used it with no issues at all. I Asked a few questions about moisture in the wood and was told it wouldn’t be a issue at all.

 

[Sttr]

With out sounding critical can I ask why you would choose spruce over fir for the stringers. Fir I would think is far better for this application. And if you went spruce why not go the extra and go treated lumber.

I got pressure treated 2x4 s in my shop…
I sure hope that spruce is treated, I would never cheap out like that

 

[walleyes]

I got pressure treated 2x4 s in my shop…
I sure hope that spruce is treated, I would never cheap out like that

Ok must just be the lighting as the wood on the stringers in the pics doesn’t look treated.

Thanks. Really enjoying your build bros, keep em comingl

 

[Bifmalibu]

I agree that doesn't look like treated lumber at all, and it most certainly is not going to be dry. You can buy a 20$ moisture probe at Canadian tire to confirm m.c. If you're interested in slowing down, I think LVL's may be something to consider.

 

[Sttr]

Ok must just be the lighting as the wood on the stringers in the pics doesn’t look treated.

Thanks. Really enjoying your build bros, keep em comingl

Thanks man! It’s been a blast!!
Can’t wait to get her on the water!!!

The most frustrating thing I’m running into is that I have no time right now, since I ripped her apart completely I haven’t even had time to make a new plan and design for the boat.
I also want to do as much as I can by myself with someone watching over me for quality control. I don’t want to farm out work on my boat. Add all those together and I need 12 hours a day on my boat to be happy

 

[Sttr]

Told the wife I’m going to save on.
Went back to the shop,
Had to check the wood LoL
Is KD heat treated spruce pin fir

 

[Sttr]

I agree that doesn't look like treated lumber at all, and it most certainly is not going to be dry. You can buy a 20$ moisture probe at Canadian tire to confirm m.c. If you're interested in slowing down, I think LVL's may be something to consider.

By far the hardest thing I cut out of that boat was the gussets to the transom Ron installed, laminated marine ply,