On the hunt for a boat

My 542 is a great boat, but I would not want to try sleeping in the cuddy. Way too small. Great place to store stuff so it isn't underfoot.
Interested in hearing some of your experience if you don't mind. What year do you have, any issues with the boat itself you've had to deal with? How is the ride and dealing with adverse conditions? I know its not a huge boat so I'm not talking about big waves
 
Interested in hearing some of your experience if you don't mind. What year do you have, any issues with the boat itself you've had to deal with? How is the ride and dealing with adverse conditions? I know its not a huge boat so I'm not talking about big waves
I owned a 542, it was a great boat for its size, definitely too small to sleep on or do multi-day trips. Handled bad weather surprisingly well for a 19’ boat but had its limitations. The 22-24 size class jump feels a lot bigger than the numbers suggest. For what you’ve described I would keep looking for something larger.
 
Go for a Grady White 228 G. I’m 6’ 2” and slept many times in the 228G v berth no problem. Total weight on trailer fully loaded is approx 7000-7500 lbs. Very solid offshore and you can overnight but it’s camping. Hard to find but they do come up.
 
The verdict is in, I am here now, looked at that 228, weird set up for the self bailing for sure, both have seacock on them, the are rusted out,holes in the transom left open bellow waterline, orange rust stains, from some of the fastener going through the transom, pod gets full of water, probably why it sits low and heavy at the stern, looks like maintenance was very neglected, looks like birds where living in the battery hatch 🙄🙄, deck is soft in some spots, and the moisture reader on the transom show 40%( cheap moisture reader ) but still a red flag, IMO 98% that transom is wet, hard pass if I was the buyer, it need lots of TLC, too bad they are nice looking boats, the self bailing flaps need replacing, I am sure there is more, just did not want to deal with the sales guy 😂😂
 
The verdict is in, I am here now, looked at that 228, weird set up for the self bailing for sure, both have seacock on them, the are rusted out,holes in the transom left open bellow waterline, orange rust stains, from some of the fastener going through the transom, pod gets full of water, probably why it sits low and heavy at the stern, looks like maintenance was very neglected, looks like birds where living in the battery hatch 🙄🙄, deck is soft in some spots, and the moisture reader on the transom show 40%( cheap moisture reader ) but still a red flag, IMO 98% that transom is wet, hard pass if I was the buyer, it need lots of TLC, too bad they are nice looking boats, the self bailing flaps need replacing, I am sure there is more, just did not want to deal with the sales guy 😂😂
Wrong thread maybe? https://sportfishingbc.com/threads/find-me-a-grady-white-228-seafarer.98380/
 
I owned a 542, it was a great boat for its size, definitely too small to sleep on or do multi-day trips. Handled bad weather surprisingly well for a 19’ boat but had its limitations. The 22-24 size class jump feels a lot bigger than the numbers suggest. For what you’ve described I would keep looking for something larger.
I agree, but always interested in hearing first hand experiences. The general recommendation from people has been to go bigger right away if you can
 
I owned a 542, it was a great boat for its size, definitely too small to sleep on or do multi-day trips. Handled bad weather surprisingly well for a 19’ boat but had its limitations. The 22-24 size class jump feels a lot bigger than the numbers suggest. For what you’ve described I would keep looking for something larger.
I agree, but always interested in hearing first hand experiences. The general recommendation from most has been to go bigger right away if you can
 
I owned a 2000 542 for 10 years and just loved it but decided to go up into a Seafarer for more room and bigger cuddy for overnights. The 542 is awesome, I’ve had it in big water and it was great, in fact the beam of the 542 is very close to the Seafarer just a shorter hull.
 
Go for a Grady White 228 G. I’m 6’ 2” and slept many times in the 228G v berth no problem. Total weight on trailer fully loaded is approx 7000-7500 lbs. Very solid offshore and you can overnight but it’s camping. Hard to find but they do come up.
I bet the new one is a bit more comfortable!
 
I'm surprised that 232 is still available. I have a friend who wants to buy a 255 and repower. The math on 50k in new power and the wide beam, combined with a guide proven hull with a trailer makes that boat a close to no brainer.
255 rides hard. Not that the 232 rides on a cloud but it's definitely superior to the 255.
 
Most people find that boats up to 24 ft are too small for more than a very occasional overnight. With few exceptions, everything up to that is built to be a day boat. You'll find the occasional hardtop in the 23-24 ft class that can be made to work, but really the features that make overnighting reasonably comfortable don't start to appear until 25 ft and up. If it's just you and spouse, you might get away with something 22-23, ft but you'll be doing some DIY to add items like fridge, sink, etc.

The other issue is power. You're going to find mostly I/O power as the budget/size equation drives you into older hulls. Outboard power was rare in those size classes in that era because reliable large outboards in the 250-300 hp range were only just starting to hit the market. Certainly, take the time to seek out a hull set up for OB power; the engine/s will be older, but repowering will be cheaper than podding an I/O hull.

There are several threads on this board detailing the journey from buying an older inboard hull with failed power all the way through to splashing a minty podded rig hung with new outboards. Pro is you know you have reliable power and sound transom and stringers, cons are you spent a lot of cash to get that work done.

I agree with most what's written by Sly Karma, but I'd suggest that if you can go a little older, you can go a little smaller - cruising was more common in days gone by - with boats 22-24 ft. My boat is a 1984 23 Hourston that sleeps 3 [4 in a pinch], has an icebox, stove/heater and sit-down table. You may find these things in a 22 [eg. Double Eagle], but probably not smaller. If you're going to stay out several days at a time, you probably want those amenities.

Most on this forum don't want I/O. When we rebuilt ours, we repowered with a Volvo D3-200 and duoprop which will move the boat at 35 mph, and cruise comfortably at 24-28 mph at 6.5-7 GPH [US]. We trailer from Victoria to Port McNeill several times a year. Its 7700 lbs including trailer. A newer boat might well weigh less and be trailerable with a half-ton.

Good luck with your search.
 
I’m in the market for a “new to me” boat and I’d like to get some input as I know there’s a ton of experience here. This might be a little long winded as I’ve got some thoughts to get out so bear with me

Right now I have a 1986 17ft arima sea chaser. It’s been a great first boat for me fishing the local waters and gaining some experience. I’ve made the decision to look at getting something else for a couple of reasons
  1. I’d just like something a bit bigger, everyone understands that. I’d also like the ability to spend the night in the cuddy
  2. We somewhat recently moved basically across the street from reed point marina. My current boat is too old to get in there (they have a 30 year old rule)
Currently my boat is dry stored without a trailer. It’s stored a distance from our house and is a bit of a hassle to launch and retrieve. This has made it so we don’t end up using the boat as much as we’d like. Now that we live 1 minute from a marina we would love to get something we could moor there and try to use it as much as possible. Basically really try jumping into the lifestyle and see if we get full use out of it.

I first started looking at the class of boats such as the campion 542 and double eagle 185. I’ve realized I don’t think sleeping in these would be very comfortable (I’m 6’2) and I also wonder if I would immediately have 2 foot itis again since it is not that big of a jump from what I have now. Maybe I’m incorrect in this, I’d love to hear from people who have them. Thinking a step up into the 21-23 ft range may be better

I’ve seen a seaswirl striper 2101 and Wellcraft coastal 232 recently that checked a lot of the boxes I was looking for but they both got snatched up quickly.

The boat will definitely be used for fishing but will also be used to just cruise and explore so some extra comforts are a plus. Basically not looking for a 2 seater. Hard top or full Alaskan cabin are also a big plus to make the boat more comfortable year round. The boat will primarily be used in local Vancouver waters and Howe sound

Looking to stay with outboard power as it’s all I’ve ever known. There definitely are a lot more options in boats that I’ve been seeing with inboard power though, so I am open to hearing peoples experiences. Also primarily looking at fibreglass for ride quality in the size range

Trailerable would be nice. I have the ability to tow around 7000lbs comfortably. This is not an absolute deal breaker for me. In my mind I’d like to be able to tow it to a destination a couple times a year and be able to take it out myself for maintenance and storage at times. But ultimately I would consider trading that for a better option that I couldn’t trailer

I’d like the boat to be as new and good condition as possible (who wouldn’t) but I am realistic about boat prices and my budget. I’ve had experience with dealing with gremlins from previous owners and I would like to avoid as much of that as I can this time around

Lastly I’d like something that will reasonably economical to run. Reed point is long run from most of the fishing grounds so I’m not looking for a monster that will cost $500 every time I take it out

Budget would ideally stay under 60k. It is possible to stretch it a bit more for a really great option but I’d like try to not have that creep. Since I do currently have a boat to use I’m willing to be patient

Sorry for the long winded write up and potentially crazy list. I’ve been doing as much reading as possible of similar threads that have come up over the years and have become addicted to looking at listings. Any recommendations of boats I should be looking at that may fit the bill (or ones I should avoid) are much appreciated. Also any general boat buying tips or listing sites I may not know about would be great.

Thanks in advance for any input and advice
Only advice I can offer is 21’ is smaller than it seems.
 
If a 19 foot livingston Viking comes up for sale locally or you are on the mainland the ones in WA are worth checking out. They have an 8 foot beam and a stand up top and drop curtain. My brother did weekend trips for 3-4 years with his first daughter and wife in theirs. I personally wouldn't buy a boat again for over 20k that didn't have an 8 foot beam. The canvas will be getting old and only a few have 4 strokes on them https://www.facebook.com/share/16PYKZ4Tem/?mibextid=wwXIfr
 
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