Who will travel, who will stay

John Ingram

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I would like to get a sense of the percentage of local fishers (Victoria Area)who will travel to other areas to get their quotas
and who has to stay down south an wait for an opening. Anyone willing to discuss this in the forum??
 
Not that it is travel to get quotas, but I will be with friends and family all up the island and we will fish if the timing is right with them. As far as a solo trip probably not this year. Usually do 2-3big trips with buddies from Alberta but that won't be happening this year. I will just fish my local waters until the whole covid thing is lifted.
 
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Mystified why you would use the term "quota" in the first place.
Well what is the quota .... 10 salmon a year. I would think if you can't get your quota down south that you would try and
get it up north during your trip.
 
Thought it’s essential travel only right now?
I'm sure that the travel ban will be lifted before the good fishing month, June through August. And I'm sure that some people will just ignore the travel ban .... everyone that wants a vaccine shot should have it by June..... than it will be a free for all
 
Yeah, the whole idea of a fisherman "getting my limit", like it's an entitlement, has to change. Like it or not, agree or not, sport fishermen are a small number of people taking a public resource. We, and especially the guides, need to adopt more responsible attitudes and demonstrate exemplary behavior before the general public and their politicians take it all away. Bragging about all the fish you caught, whether 2 or 10, does not help us. Neither does demanding our "rights" to fish - unless F.N., we have none.
 
Yeah, the whole idea of a fisherman "getting my limit", like it's an entitlement, has to change. Like it or not, agree or not, sport fishermen are a small number of people taking a public resource. We, and especially the guides, need to adopt more responsible attitudes and demonstrate exemplary behavior before the general public and their politicians take it all away. Bragging about all the fish you caught, whether 2 or 10, does not help us. Neither does demanding our "rights" to fish - unless F.N., we have none.
We should never be ashamed or hide the fact we go out to hunt and gather for our families. Bending and caving into the demands and standards of those apposed is not an option. If we hide in the shadows no one will know when we are gone.

Be loud, be vocal and be proud of what we do and why we do it. Absolutely every hunter gatherer should be on a site like this showing we aren’t going any place and we are proud of what we do.
 
We should never be ashamed or hide the fact we go out to hunt and gather for our families. Bending and caving into the demands and standards of those apposed is not an option. If we hide in the shadows no one will know when we are gone.

Be loud, be vocal and be proud of what we do and why we do it. Absolutely every hunter gatherer should be on a site like this showing we aren’t going any place and we are proud of what we do.
It would be great to be able to catch your limit....... I have just never done that. I have tried. Even when the limit was 30 fish a year.
Shore fishing is a bit different from being able to get out on a boat year round. The best year that I have ever had was 7 salmon
between June and August. And the GRAND total of ALL the salmon I have ever caught is 55 since age 16
 
We should never be ashamed or hide the fact we go out to hunt and gather for our families. Bending and caving into the demands and standards of those apposed is not an option. If we hide in the shadows no one will know when we are gone.

Be loud, be vocal and be proud of what we do and why we do it. Absolutely every hunter gatherer should be on a site like this showing we aren’t going any place and we are proud of what we do.
Sorry, the emotional narrative around "hunting and gathering to feed our families" was stale decades ago. The public sentiment does not support it and they are the majority that decides the fate of hunters and fishermen in our democracy. I enjoy fishing as much as the next fishermen but I avoid beating my chest and trumpeting how proud I am of killing fish. The attention may be great for some egos but attracts lots of negative public attention, as well.
 
Sorry, the emotional narrative around "hunting and gathering to feed our families" was stale decades ago. The public sentiment does not support it and they are the majority that decides the fate of hunters and fishermen in our democracy. I enjoy fishing as much as the next fishermen but I avoid beating my chest and trumpeting how proud I am of killing fish. The attention may be great for some egos but attracts lots of negative public attention, as well.
I agree it’s not a “need” any longer to hunt and gather to feed the family it’s a choice, a wise one but still a choice. I view it as a choice to supply my family with as much natural organic heathy food as I possibly can. I will attempt to do that as long as I possibly can. We grow a garden, we raise animals to consume, we hunt as many species as allowed by law, we catch as many different species of fish as possible and take pride in consuming that product. And yes I do take pride in the fact my family doesn’t have to live off of store bought chemical and steroid infested food every day. As the population gets more urbanized all the time we are moving away from this connection with the land. I won’t apologize for not joining them, I won’t apologize for showing the world there are still a good many of us that do still have this connection to the land. It’s not about pounding my chest it’s about not bowing down to society, it’s about holding true to my values. Because I have that right to hold onto my values as much as they do to theirs. I think if more people would do this it would show it’s still a part of our culture and society in stead of a dying thing. I mean it may be a dying thing in your circle but its not in mine. We are proud hunters and gathers. Today it’s fishing and hunting tomorrow it’s eating meat we will be shamed into not doing, that has even started. When will it end, when will the cancel cultures appetite be filled and they stop. If you haven’t caught on yet it never will be.
With the help of sites like this we are able to keep in the public eye and make sure people see it’s still popular and still a valid activity If we fade from society and hide our actions the assumption will be that no one partakes in these activities any longer why allow it, it’s not important to anyone. You can’t keep the cancel culture happy, that impossible so why try.
 
Sorry, the emotional narrative around "hunting and gathering to feed our families" was stale decades ago. The public sentiment does not support it and they are the majority that decides the fate of hunters and fishermen in our democracy. I enjoy fishing as much as the next fishermen but I avoid beating my chest and trumpeting how proud I am of killing fish. The attention may be great for some egos but attracts lots of negative public attention, as well.
I’ve met more non fishers disturbed by the fact that we harass fish only to let them go again for fun than I have people offended that we act on the deepest of primal urges to provide food for our families. That’s just my experiences though.
Whether you like to fish as a sport, or fish to provide you will always offend some sort of a granola muncher. Rather than divide amongst ourselves maybe we should stay united. Fishers and hunters may be a minority but so are the pseudo environmentalists who oppose us, they just are more vocal than us and more united.
 
I will stay on the South Island. I take 4 or 5 summer fish (12-20 pounders) for my own family, that’s all I need. If It’s permissible to keep some that is.
I take a few buddies out every year, they take 2 or 3 home each/year. Not a lot.

impact on stocks from my boat is low.
 
Sorry, the emotional narrative around "hunting and gathering to feed our families" was stale decades ago. The public sentiment does not support it and they are the majority that decides the fate of hunters and fishermen in our democracy. I enjoy fishing as much as the next fishermen but I avoid beating my chest and trumpeting how proud I am of killing fish. The attention may be great for some egos but attracts lots of negative public attention, as well.
The public need to be reminded who were the original conservationists. They also should be aware that the more eyes (ours) in the woods or on the water the less poaching. It is not about ego. It really is better for the economy/environment when a sporty pays for a pound of salmon than when they buy it in the store.
 
I'll stay local...because I don't like trailering long distances with a little half ton toyota.

If I had a 2500 or something, I'd go where the fish were.

I don't take enough fish to feel a trace of guilt about what I do. I don't apologize for fishing or hunting or firearms ownership or anything. You can never appease the people who want to restrict this stuff. Hiding just allows them to perceive the weakness of your position. As far as I'm concerned, if you're forced to negotiate anything, you want them to think you shoot a thousand deer a year with fully automatic rocket launchers, and fish with grenades, throwing the meat in a dumpster. That way, you can let them talk you down to 900 deer a year, semi-automatic rocket launchers, and no fishing with explosives.

The people who hate hunting and fishing are only interested in eliminating hunting and fishing. They aren't looking for a compromise we could all agree on, they're Vancouver and Victoria apartment dwellers who will demand that you compromise on the current limits, then the next limits, then the next, then the next, until you aren't allowed to own a boat or a truck to pull it with.

So my policy is simple: never give an inch. If I have to negotiate, I don't want them to think I'm timidly taking the minimum possible. That just knocks down a bunch of hurdles for them.
 
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