Visiting Victoria in August. Need Suggestions

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Hello. I'll be on holiday in Victoria the second week in August. I do quite a bit of salmon fishing here in CA, USA and was wondering if my gear would work. I plan on saltwater fishing (salmon/halibut) one or two days out of the week I'll be there and instead of renting, should I bring my own gear? I am running the following:
- 7' Uglystick Tiger
- Shimano TLD 20
- 25lb P-Line CXX
- Assorted lures (hoochies, Apex, RSKs, FBRs, etc.)

Also, is it better to just rent my own 16' skiff or go out in a charter boat? Where can I find salmon/halibut fishing regulations? I tried searching but came up short.

Thanks for any advice!!!
 
all depends on your budget - most typical rentals are from Pedder Bay and will cost you around $200 for the day - these are bare minimum boats and you pay extra for all the toys. Then you also have the issue of being quite a bit further away from the prime fishing grounds and not really knowing where to start and what reefs to watch out for. If money is no object, you are probably better off with a guide as that rigs you with all the gear, gps, bait etc. You can certainly get by with your gear as specified, but 8 out of 10 people here strictly use bait and flasher. You should see some coho around that will be good for the hoochies/apex etc - no idea what the RSKs/FBR's are!

If you aren't cash happy, perhaps a middle of the road alternative is charter the first day to get a feel for the lay of the land, then rent a boat the 2nd. Much better experience though for the $300-400 more a charter would be. Keep in mind though that the norm up here is moocher reels for salmon. Pretty sure many guides will have alternatives you'd be more used to, but the fight is much more enjoyable our way :D

As for regulations:

http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fm-gp/rec/tidal-maree/a-s20-eng.htm
http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fm-gp/rec/tidal-maree/a-s20-eng.htm#Finfish_(Other_than_Salmon)

Expect a 2/day for kings, 4 possession, and 2 hatchery coho 4 possession, 1/day halibut, 2 possession...oh yeah, 1 ling and rock per day as well.
 
You can rent what you need here http://www.pedderbay.com/ but to tell you the truth you could spend a couple of days chasing your tail around.
August is the best month, hire a guide, lots of good ones here on this site, they can speak for themselves.
Dan
 
Thanks for the info. I was looking at pics and was wondering why some guys were trolling with "fly-fishing" gear. LOL. I guess they're called mooching reels. Interesting...
Here's a FBR (Franko Barrel Rotator) in action: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-b9joPVCH9g

Here's an RSK (Rotary Salmon Killer): http://www.protroll.com/products/bait-holders/rotary-salmon/

My budget is about $200 each day for two days. If the fishing is that great in August, I might have to do both days at $400. There'll be my wife as well and might have to rent a car to get to the prime spots. We were thinking of just taking public transportation the whole time...
 
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quote:Originally posted by James Y

Thanks for the info. I was looking at pics and was wondering why some guys were trolling with "fly-fishing" gear. LOL. I guess they're called mooching reels. Interesting...
Here's a FBR (Franko Barrel Rotator) in action: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-b9joPVCH9g

Here's an RSK (Rotary Salmon Killer): http://www.protroll.com/products/bait-holders/rotary-salmon/

My budget is about $200 each day for two days. If the fishing is that great in August, I might have to do both days at $400. There'll be my wife as well and might have to rent a car to get to the prime spots. We were thinking of just taking public transportation the whole time...
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oh yeah, I think there was discussion here about the FBR's and using them around here - looked interesting enough but I never got around to trying it. Certainly give it a shot and report back. Never saw those RSK's before. They look a little rough around the edges to me, but who knows. This is what we use up here:

http://www.tyeetackle.com/anchovyspecial.html

Looks like your budget won't allow for charters, so you may have to resort to the rentals and cross your fingers. That being said, mention if you go that route and I'll send you a cheat sheet map I made up for an out of towner for my derby last year - it will help things more than the map that Pedder would give you. If you don't have sounders in the boats (don't believe?), you may just have to follow other peoples tacks so you don't get caught up on the reefs (ie, Church Rock, Christopher Point and Trap Shack Reef the most likely risks assuming you come out of Pedder).

If you plan on taking buses, you won't be able to find your way to Pedder - you will have to figure out a boat in Sooke and I have no idea if there are any official 'rental' places there.

You can also go real cheap and fish from the rocks - breakwater @ ogden point, Beechey Head, and Otter Point are all quite fishable. You would obviously need a different rod though.
 
not sure what the cost is but silver streak has rentals now too, and that is right in sooke where the fishing would/should be better
 
Way to go there DB!

That shouold help the fellow. I was thinkning......( stay away from pedder ) Leaving from the basin will get you to more productive fishing grounds. Just be safe and pay close attention to the multi marked passages within the basin itself, or........ you could be high'n dry in no time [:0]
 
quote:Originally posted by dohboy

not sure what the cost is but silver streak has rentals now too, and that is right in sooke where the fishing would/should be better
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http://www.luckyrentals.ca/

hey, sweet...pretty decent deal there for the 16' center console - $150/day with downriggers and GPS...looks like you have to trailer them out there though (or pay $50 more for dropoff).

Keep in mind also James that you need a pleasure craft operating card up here if you are taking out a boat. I assume they would require to see it before renting to you.
 
I have rented a boat from Pedder before. Jiggin' off the rocks around Pedder could get you a nice chinook, cheaper than venturin' out to prime fishing spots like Church Rock or Beechy Head. In the recent years, jiggin' has been producin' lately for me. Stinglas, buzz bombs, zzingers and few others are good bets.

Rentin' a downrigger with bait/flasher setup of your own is fine.

Be careful that the rental boat has only one motor to run out. If the engine stalls, you would need to ask another boat to tow you back in just a case. Most of times, it is not the case.

A note: Everytime I come in Pedder Bay, I have seen a few well known top charter guides bringin' in good fish for their guests.

Good luck and good fishing!
 
People are on this forum are very quick! I was going to post about Lucky Rentals in Sooke, but you beat me to it. If you do need the PCOC card for boat operator, they do it at Lucky....costs $40 I believe. Pretty simply multiple choice exam.

If I were you, I'd bring rod and reel, but get the tackle here -- just ask tackle shop what is working locally, they'll set you up. Then rent a boat and go play around. Or rent a guide for one day, get a sense of where to go and what to use, then go it alone. The extra few hundred bucks will seem cheap a year from now, when looking at a picture of yourself with a big salmon! (and a lot less frustration probably)

Maps for local fishing spots, Victoria, Sooke, Renfrew: http://fishingvictoria.ca/fishinglocations.html

Re: mooching reels...friends from down south call them "Canadian reels". ;)
They are pretty much used exclusively around here, rather than level winds. Once you've palmed your first tyee, you will NEVER go back ... much more responsive, playing the fish. But the winders work fine too.



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quote:Originally posted by r.s craven

you are correct reelfast
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Not very clear actually - it 'appears' they would just need the US equivalent

http://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/marinesafety/debs-obs-paperwork-paperwork_operatorfaq-2233.htm#h

but then what is in #2

What is acceptable proof of competency for non-residents?

For non-residents, proof of competency can take one of three forms:

1. A Pleasure Craft Operator Card;
2. A completed boat rental safety checklist (for power-driven rental boats); or,
3. An operator card or equivalent which meets the requirements of their state or country.
 
Non Residents

Pleasure Craft operators coming from the USA who are boating in Canada for up to 45 days maximum can have their state boat operator credentials accepted as proof of competency in lieu of a PCO card, for example a card recognized by the National Association of State Boating Law Administrators or NASBLA.
 
You guys are great. Thanks for all the GREAT info! :) I think I'll have to cancel a few other activities (island hopping, Vancouver tour, garden, etc.) and definitely get on a charter boat. I think I'll rent my gear instead so I can see what "palming" with a mooching reel is all about! I'll still bring some RSKs and FBRs though just to try them out for sh*#$ and giggles. :D
 
I would do the guide thing,they have all the gear, know the area and maybe able to split a charter with someone else if it is just your wife and you.I know some guides that do pick-up and drop-offs.Some will pick you up in the inner harbor.Remember that that $400-$600 is for the whole boat 1-5? people, pick-up.Just my 2 cents
 
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