how close is too close?

A must read for anyone interested......

"The American Raj - Liberation or Domination" By Eric Margolis

I believe a group of North African Salafists hatched the plan for 9/11 in Spain. Al-Zahari or Bin Laden likely new very little about the attacks. The Al-qaeda terrorist 'training camps' which were widely publized as one of the many reason for the invasion were in fact, 4 months prior to 9/11, US (CIA) funded basic combat training facilities, in which the US trained young Mujahideen fighters that had travelled from outside of Afganistan to wage Jihad (not a 'holy war', but a call by the Muslim religion to defend and support other Muslims who are being oppressed by outside forces) against the Russian Communists who still had interests in Northern Afganistan (see Turkmenistan, Uzebekistan, Tajikistan). The US and Russians have obviously had competing interests. Afganistan happened to be another, as it was the only possible way to run a pipeline from the Caspian Sea to the Persian Gulf. Not saying it was about oil either (but it was)...

Go back to world war 2. Why did Italy lose? The Germans used their oil reserves. Why did Germany lose? Aside from butt-whooping Allies, but they ran out of fuel as well. It doesn't matter how big your war machine is, if you don't have the fuel to run it you will lose. That is why since the fall of the Third Reich the US has made it its diplomatic mission to maintain interest in the middle east...(see the creation of Isreal, ie. Mini-America, that is smack dab in the middle of the middle east and it's oilfields. Coincidence? Maybe, but the Military force stationed in and around Israel by the US has the striking power to within hours, meet any challenge the Mideast may have. The same can be said for Saudi Arabia.

Back to Afganistan, the puppet ruler put into power by the US, Hamid Karzai, was actually an executive of Chevron oil, one of the first major corporations to show interest in Afganistan, oddly enough Karzai's connections with the CIA run well below the surface. Karzai is flanked by literally hundreds of American Mercinaries, for protection. He is widely hated in Afganistan....and no body in Afganistan wears that green hat!

Maybe this wasn't the right place for this post....lol

As the world turns!
 
Aren't you guys a long long long way from this original thread???

Distance Canada to Afghanistan = 5,925 miles / 9,535 km

sooo about that far off! haha
 
Aren't you guys a long long long way from this original thread???

Agreed. I joined so I could talk about something that makes me happy.....fishing! I could care less about this US vs Canada BS! That has nothing to do with this thread, and really seems to be getting childish. Just my 2cents.
 
I think a new thread on the war should be started- I learn a lot of fishing tips from the experts on this forumn and I am gratefull to them all for sharing! Using a huffington post columnist to slant history is an interesting post, but totally irrelevant to the fisherman here. I left violence behind thankfully and I think that we all get the concept of avoiding stupid confrontations on the water...but being a hot headed Irishman, I understand how frustrations can boil over in the heat of the moment. I hope all you members have a safe fishing season and share some good stories and tips!
 
Agreed. I joined so I could talk about something that makes me happy.....fishing! I could care less about this US vs Canada BS! That has nothing to do with this thread, and really seems to be getting childish. Just my 2cents.

Stones, go back a page and you are talking about girls and water balloons....every thread on this forum gets childish. just breeze through the salty forum in the last month. Knowing a little about the Canada US BS could maybe shine some light on how lucky we are to fish and do other fun things in this great country. See, its related.

To get back to fishing, Afghanistan style...


http://www.jest.com/video/771/soldiers-blow-up-lake

Im done...;)
 
everyone in the world knows the answer to pappa swiss's question. the one i can't seem to find an answer too is why british columbians would elect a conservative government given that they only have two objectives: make the rich richer; and do anything and everything to allow big business to exploit whatever they choose. i'll standby for your answer pappa...............................
 
I know one main reason, to ban the long gun registry. Like people like my bf who dont really follow politics or policy or agendas. Just knows one thing, the conservative promised to do away with the long gun registry. That was enought for him to vote for a conservative. I begged him not to and to look at the bigger picture. Now along the way I show him what other issues are coming up that he supported that he is actually against. But we have alot if rich people and alot of dumb rednecks it seems. On this matter how did you guys vote Bush in twice.
 
everyone in the world knows the answer to pappa swiss's question. the one i can't seem to find an answer too is why british columbians would elect a conservative government given that they only have two objectives: make the rich richer; and do anything and everything to allow big business to exploit whatever they choose. i'll standby for your answer pappa...............................

Reelfast, we have watched the Liberals and Conservatives plunder Canada over the last 40 years
lets face it they are self serving politicians.
We need a gov't "for the people" and that seems to be hard to find.
 
Lets be clear, a "conservative" in Canada, is not he same as a "conservative" in the US. I don't know of any conservatives in the US who are supporting "Obama Care". Up here Conservatives support universal healthcare and many other prescribed "left thinking" philosophies. You’re talking different animals. Real US conservatives scare me, there is no comparison. Our Liberals are communists south of the border.
 
everyone in the world knows the answer to pappa swiss's question. the one i can't seem to find an answer too is why british columbians would elect a conservative government given that they only have two objectives: make the rich richer; and do anything and everything to allow big business to exploit whatever they choose. i'll standby for your answer pappa...............................

Didn't vote for the conservatives so I can't help you with that question. Asking the general public to choose a leader is a tricky situation as most the general public is not very informed and they like to vote on a narrow range of issues not the big picture.

Hey just look at that ridiculous cowboy Bush you guys kept around for 8 years, these things happen.

And that's "Poppa" not "Pappa" :P
 
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Great idea....here is a relaxed friend on the water...

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Thats what I will be doing saturday, smiling rain or shine!!
 
Didn't vote for the conservatives so I can't help you with that question. Asking the general public to choose a leader is a tricky situation as most the general public is not very informed and they like to vote on a narrow range of issues not the big picture.

Hey just look at that ridiculous cowboy Bush you guys kept around for 8 years, these things happen.

And that's "Poppa" not "Pappa" :P

So, "PAPPA" are you going to keep posting your "trolling" crap? Or, answer my guestion?

Well, Ole Poppa Swiss I am glad you think killing people is "LOL" situation, "frankly" I don't! I didn't say afghanistan caused 9/11, at all. afghanistan was the result of 9/11. Why don't you take your little "trolling" mouse of yours and point it to Google. Use that little "trolling brain of yours" and type in "tiliban""bin laden" "afghanistan" and then come back and discuss - who was supporting who, who was hiding who, and who actually told the Tiliban if they didn't give up someone who killed thousands of both U.S. and "Canadian" citizens WE WERE coming after him. Then also take that little trolling mind of yours and find out which countries supported that. Then take you little trolling mind and find out how many Canadian troops went there and FYI... did a DAMN fine job of KILLING PEOPLE! I appreaciate you thoughts; however, not your "trolling" and is about time someone calls a "troll" a "troll" and you sir, are one! Here is a present, just for YOU!

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Have a great day and let us all know what facts your trolling fingers and that simple mind find!

Guys... go back and read Kevin's posts! Kevin acutally picks and chooses who he wants to "Troll"! FYI... I personally am done with him! And again, "KEVIN" JUST FOR YOU!

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Agreed. I joined so I could talk about something that makes me happy.....fishing! I could care less about this US vs Canada BS! That has nothing to do with this thread, and really seems to be getting childish. Just my 2cents.

It all started with the macho nonsense about how people are going to "get tough" on those who get too close, by throwing, shooting etc. Talk about childish! Then reelfast tried to remind people to get real and that violence or threats in response to a mistake or poor judgment, are criminal, not to mention ridiculous. It devolved from there... The chest thumping is juvenile and tedious to begin with. But then a common sense observation that highlights this fact inflames the chest thumpers and anything goes... Wasn't it about "how close is too close?" and not the foolish ways that some may propose to deal with the problem?
 
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If we open a quarrel between the past and the present, we shall find that we have lost the future.
Sir Winston Churchill
Where there is a great deal of free speech there is always a certain amount of foolish speech.
Sir Winston Churchill
I think that we are all guilty of these sins maybe we should rest our fingers and reflect on things we shouldn't say.

My quote for the day is; Do not wade foolisly into a dogfight as you will surely get bitten.
 
So, "PAPPA" are you going to keep posting your "trolling" crap? Or, answer my guestion?
First off LOL at you thinking calling me "pappa" is some sort of insult - you're cute.

If you really want to have a debate on Afghanistan and the "tiliban" go ahead and start a new thread in the general section, I'm not sure there was an actual question for me to answer yet?

Guys... go back and read Kevin's posts! Kevin acutally picks and chooses who he wants to "Troll"! FYI... I personally am done with him! And again, "KEVIN" JUST FOR YOU!
you mad bro? :)
 
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