Early Halibut Opening

[Rain City]

Everyone is all over the place and did they attend any of the meetings?
People need to attend the meetings and get the facts, listen to what others are saying and ask questions.

Show solidarity of 25 of the same old people attending really doesn't reflect the thousands of licenses sold in the Victoria area. Consider, if you had a meeting and only a few attended you would assume there ares no concerns. The few that attend the meeting do voice their concerns but consider 25/2500(?) =1%

I know for a fact that most of the SFAB members are not reading this form.

I think there is a process to be followed in order to advise DFO of your concerns and that is to go to the meeting and then go through SFAB or the Ground fish working group.

When the next Victoria meeting comes up. I will post up the date, time and location. Come to the meeting, SFAB , DFO and 20 to 30 fisherman will be there.

I actually think it's silly that someone would have to attend an in person meeting to have a say. They could easily have some kind of voluntary questionnaire attached to the licensing system. Every year it could ask pertinent questions related to the upcoming season and give anglers an opportunity to voice their own concerns. The system seems purposefully archaic.

 

[wildmanyeah]

You can do this. Quota is bought/sold and leased every day.

I don’t think you can unless you have a commercial license, not talking about leasing

 

[Capt_Ed]

I don’t think you can unless you have a commercial license, not talking about leasing

You can buy a Commercial license and the minimum quota attached( 428#) i think for about $115,000 on Pacific Boat Brokers.

 

[Doug]

I'm surprised by how many people do not go to the DFO web site and do a search to know the facts and if it isn't there call them. All the info is there.

I have friends in Mission looking at buying quota once it is available, so they can make their trip to the island worth it. But I thing the cost is around $8lb+- lb, so if you get a 100lb it is $800.

DFO is not going to go out of their way creating more work for DFO. The Gov has been cutting back on DFO's funds every year and they have less and less staff. If you just sit on the side lines and listen to others, who do not know the facts this issue will remain the same.

I think the SFAB was created for the fisherman to transfer ideas to DFO. It is the only group DFO will listen too. Just thing what it would be like getting thousand of fisherman letters with hundreds of different opinions on what they want to happen.

As Derby said " Herding Cat" I think herding cats would be easier.

I think I will retire from the halibut opening posts and just read them, and hopefully things get worked out.

 

[casper5280]

I find with a lot of these meetings, that they are posted here anyways a day or 2 before the meeting or its in the afternoon when people are working. Most people have plans and need some lead time so they can plan around it. I am thankful for the people that do attend and I have attended a few over the years and you are correct that the few I have been to it was the same people there.

 

[SpringFever2359]

You do realize that the quota that get leased out is and always has been part of the original 88 and now 85 percent of Commercial quota. If leasing goes away it doesn’t mean that quota is up for grabs. Its still commercial quota

I agree with this, I'll add that any commercial quota that is taken away(bought) will end up in 1st nations hands.

 

[Capt_Ed]

I'm surprised by how many people do not go to the DFO web site and do a search to know the facts and if it isn't there call them. All the info is there.

I have friends in Mission looking at buying quota once it is available, so they can make their trip to the island worth it. But I thing the cost is around $8lb+- lb, so if you get a 100lb it is $800.

DFO is not going to go out of their way creating more work for DFO. The Gov has been cutting back on DFO's funds every year and they have less and less staff. If you just sit on the side lines and listen to others, who do not know the facts this issue will remain the same.

I think the SFAB was created for the fisherman to transfer ideas to DFO. It is the only group DFO will listen too. Just thing what it would be like getting thousand of fisherman letters with hundreds of different opinions on what they want to happen.

As Derby said " Herding Cat" I think herding cats would be easier.

I think I will retire from the halibut opening posts and just read them, and hopefully things get worked out.

To be clear, at $8.00 a pound you are leasing quota not buying it

 

[Rain City]

I'm surprised by how many people do not go to the DFO web site and do a search to know the facts and if it isn't there call them. All the info is there.

I have friends in Mission looking at buying quota once it is available, so they can make their trip to the island worth it. But I thing the cost is around $8lb+- lb, so if you get a 100lb it is $800.

DFO is not going to go out of their way creating more work for DFO. The Gov has been cutting back on DFO's funds every year and they have less and less staff. If you just sit on the side lines and listen to others, who do not know the facts this issue will remain the same.

I think the SFAB was created for the fisherman to transfer ideas to DFO. It is the only group DFO will listen too. Just thing what it would be like getting thousand of fisherman letters with hundreds of different opinions on what they want to happen.

As Derby said " Herding Cat" I think herding cats would be easier.

I think I will retire from the halibut opening posts and just read them, and hopefully things get worked out.

Let everyone assign a proxy then. Easy

 

[wildmanyeah]

You can buy a Commercial license and the minimum quota attached( 428#) i think for about $115,000 on Pacific Boat Brokers.

okay so its 115k to get into the game get 428 but once your in you can buy quota from what i read "according to a recent DFO analysis. Anyone hoping to buy halibut quota should be ready to offer $90 to $100 a pound."


From 2021 so old now

The outlook for halibut licence and quota value is summarized as follows:
• Halibut was one of the most highly traded licence and quota in BC commercial fisheries over 2021 as the fishery has strong fundamentals, high demand, and fewer perceived uncertainties from the changes in fisheries policy
.• Interviewees commented that value of halibut quota peaked in 2017 at $120-$130/lb and has since stabilized in the range of $90-$95/lb.
• Halibut quota prices rallied this year despite volatile prices over 2020, with prices in the range of $92-$95/lb in the start of the season, and $96/lb toward the end of the season.
• Halibut was viewed as a resilient fishery due to the low cost of capital and a solid rate of return(5.45%). It was perceived to be a success story during COVID-19.
• The direct-to-consumer market opened new avenues to sell popular fish such as halibut, but reaching this market still requires significant value-adding to make the product consumer friendly. Prior toCOVID-19, as much as 80% of halibut went to restaurants and food service industries, meaning thatbuyers and processors faced a large challenge of creating new markets for their products.

 

[Admin]

This thread is really starting to meander all over the place. The opening and regulations for the upcoming season have been established. Further discussion on other elements of the Halibut debate needs to be taken to a new or different thread in the Conservation section.

 

[Bod]

I don’t think you can unless you have a commercial license, not talking about leasing

Anyone can get a license.

 

[chris73]

The SFAC south coast meetings are always around 6 or 7pm and advertised weeks ahead and you can also join in as a conference caller.

 

[Esperanza-time]

Haven’t been paying attention to the regs and just saw this.
ONE ping pong paddle possession???
That’s insane!

 

[wildmanyeah]

Haven’t been paying attention to the regs and just saw this. !

Probably not that important to you then

 

[Hardy Guy]

Going to be nothing but fishing the chicken coops.

 

[trophywife]

Going to be nothing but fishing the chicken coops.

i will still offer the anchor experience, along with an education.. as much as i despise C&R.

 

[Newf]

Almost everyone is talking about the big fish they catch and complaining about the new size limits.. The data in the tables in this thread shows otherwise so what gives? To average 10-12lbs in some areas, if folks are catching the big ones as you say then folks must also be keeping 4-6lbs to get anywhere close to the what’s in the tables.
Yes—No ????

 

[Hardy Guy]

I have had nany years where my butts were all over 110 cm.

 

[Newf]

I have had nany years where my butts were all over 110 cm.

You and many others seem to be saying the same thing and i'm not disagreeing with you because I don't know but that is not what the data shown in the tables says. The Reps on the committee are reporting smaller fish being caught etc etc but so many are reporting all the big fish they will have to throw back. I would say that there is probably as many or more small fish thrown back by folks in search of the "big one". So is the data wrong or what's being reported wrong? Something smell "fishy". Get it.

 

[SG2.0]

The data is the data. Been posted on here showing numbers of halibut caught in length increments. Go look at it. That’s actual data. And we also know 90% of the big fish are caught by 10% of the anglers…. So keep that in mind. Plus most fish are caught in areas 1, 4, 5 and are generally quite small. By looks of comments ones talking about big fish don’t fish there.