Charlie
Well-Known Member
First Nation is nothing more, nothing less than a “POLITICAL” organization! They “LOBBY”! It is NOT a governing body! Then remember, not all tribes (bands) belong to First Nations. Point being, is First Nations can NOT actually tell any band what they can, or can’t do. They can only “ASK.” The different Bands govern themselves, as them! Btw… guess what! Right now it should be pretty clear to all,unless there is a signed treaty in place - DFO can also only do the same - “ASK”! Sheesh guys, some might want to remember those bands haven’t fought any war. Most haven't legaly sold any property. Most haven't signed any treaties. It is very clear, most don't consider British Columbia having any authority over any non-treaty Indian! And, some really don’t even consider themselves British Columbians or even Canadians. Why do you think they call themselves “Nations”?
It has been well documented; the majority ofthe Fraser Chinook are taken at the mouth, or in the Fraser! Since the Nicola 4-2 keeps being brought up as the issue,I ran the CWT recoveries! The CWT for 2010 is VERY MUCH available! It is open to the public and is very easy to obtain, to the point would anyone really like to see where, who, and when the Nicola 4-2 CWT “spring run” are really recovered? How about this for starters? The following is by CWT code (“Tag Number”)released for brood stocks between 2005 and 2010. I pulled all the CWT recoveries from BC through 2010; however, I only copied Nicola spring run, since that seems to be the continuing “political” issue. This list is by the actual “Tag Code” / ”Brood Year” / ”Release Year” / ”Run” (Spring) / ”Hatchery” / ”Release Site,” and last but not least “Recovery Data,” including recovering agency and year. Yes, DFO has this information as if you note anything that says “CDFO” actually comes directly from THEM! Have fun with this information! J
Tag code number 180183
2007/2009/Spring/H-Spius Creek H/R-Nicola R/RecoverySummary for Tag Code is "0”
Tag code number 180184
2007/2009/Spring/H-Spius Creek H/R-Nicola R/RecoverySummary for Tag Code is "0"
Tag code number 180189
2007/2009/Spring/H-Spius Creek H/R-Nicola R/RecoverySummary for Tag Code is "0"
Tag code number 180965
2008/2010/Spring/H-Spius Creek H/R-Nicola R/RecoverySummary for Tag Code is "0"
Tag code number 180966
2008/2010/Spring/H-Spius Creek H/R-Nicola R/RecoverySummary for Tag Code is "0"
Tag code number 180990
2008/2010/Spring/H-Spius Creek H/R-Nicola R/RecoverySummary for Tag Code is "0"
Tag code number 185234
2005/2007/Spring/H-Spius Creek H/R-Nicola R/Recovered CDFO 2009 Freshwater Sport 1;WDFW 2009 Treaty Troll 1; Total recoveries for Tag Code 185234 2
Tag code number 185235
2005/2007/Spring/H-Spius Creek H/R-Nicola R/Recovered CDFO 2009 Freshwater Sport 4; Total recoveries for Tag Code 185235 4
Tag code number 185236
2005/2007/Spring/H-Spius Creek H/R-Nicola R/Recovered CDFO 2009 Freshwater Sport 1;Totalrecoveries for Tag Code 185236 1
Tag code number 185237
2005/2007/Spring/H-Spius Creek H/R-Nicola R/Recovered CDFO 2009 Freshwater Sport 3;CDFO 2009 Ocean Troll (non-treaty) 1; WDFW2009 Ocean Troll (non-treaty) 1; Totalrecoveries for Tag Code 185237 5
Tag code number 185728
2005/2007/Spring/H-Spius Creek H/R-Nicola R/Recovered CDFO 2009 Freshwater Sport 2;WDFW 2009 Treaty Troll 1; Total recoveries for Tag Code 185728 3
Tag code number 185926
2006/2008/Spring/H-Spius Creek H/R-Nicola R/Recovered ADFG 2010 Ocean Troll (non-treaty) 2; CDFO 2010 Mixed Net and Seine 6; CDFO 2010 Ocean Sport 2; CDFO 2010Ocean Troll (non-treaty) 5; WDFW 2010 Ocean Troll (non-treaty) 2; Totalrecoveries for Tag Code 185926 17
Tag code number 185935
2006/2008/Spring/H-Spius Creek H/R-Nicola R/Recovered CDFO 2010 Mixed Net and Seine 4; CDFO 2010 Ocean Sport 5; CDFO 2010 OceanTroll (non-treaty) 2; WDFW 2010 Ocean Troll (non-treaty) 3; WDFW 2010 Treaty Troll 2; Total recoveries forTag Code Tag code number 185935 16
Tag code number 185936]
2006/2008/Spring/H-Spius Creek H/R-Nicola R/Recovered CDFO 2010 Mixed Net and Seine5; CDFO 2010 Ocean Sport 3; CDFO 2010Ocean Troll (non-treaty) 2; WDFW 2009 Estuary Sport 1; WDFW 2010 Treaty Troll 1; Total recoveriesfor Tag Code 185936 12
So did you notice the only recovered CWTwhere for brood stocks 2005 and 2006? Did you also notice the largest number of recoveries where from broodstock 2006, released in 2008? Take a closer look at those numbers recovered in 2009 and 2010. Want to recap ALL the CWT recoveries? It looks like this:
Total Nicola CWT recoveries for broodstocks between 2005 and 2010 = 48.
Ocean Sport CWT recovered = 10.
FreshWater Sport recovered = 11
Total Commercial (all commercials) = 37
Total Commercial (Canada) = 25
In case you didn’t note… 52% of the Nicola 4-2 recovered CWT, are by CANADIAN COMMERCIAL FISHERIES!
It has been well documented; the majority ofthe Fraser Chinook are taken at the mouth, or in the Fraser! Since the Nicola 4-2 keeps being brought up as the issue,I ran the CWT recoveries! The CWT for 2010 is VERY MUCH available! It is open to the public and is very easy to obtain, to the point would anyone really like to see where, who, and when the Nicola 4-2 CWT “spring run” are really recovered? How about this for starters? The following is by CWT code (“Tag Number”)released for brood stocks between 2005 and 2010. I pulled all the CWT recoveries from BC through 2010; however, I only copied Nicola spring run, since that seems to be the continuing “political” issue. This list is by the actual “Tag Code” / ”Brood Year” / ”Release Year” / ”Run” (Spring) / ”Hatchery” / ”Release Site,” and last but not least “Recovery Data,” including recovering agency and year. Yes, DFO has this information as if you note anything that says “CDFO” actually comes directly from THEM! Have fun with this information! J
Tag code number 180183
2007/2009/Spring/H-Spius Creek H/R-Nicola R/RecoverySummary for Tag Code is "0”
Tag code number 180184
2007/2009/Spring/H-Spius Creek H/R-Nicola R/RecoverySummary for Tag Code is "0"
Tag code number 180189
2007/2009/Spring/H-Spius Creek H/R-Nicola R/RecoverySummary for Tag Code is "0"
Tag code number 180965
2008/2010/Spring/H-Spius Creek H/R-Nicola R/RecoverySummary for Tag Code is "0"
Tag code number 180966
2008/2010/Spring/H-Spius Creek H/R-Nicola R/RecoverySummary for Tag Code is "0"
Tag code number 180990
2008/2010/Spring/H-Spius Creek H/R-Nicola R/RecoverySummary for Tag Code is "0"
Tag code number 185234
2005/2007/Spring/H-Spius Creek H/R-Nicola R/Recovered CDFO 2009 Freshwater Sport 1;WDFW 2009 Treaty Troll 1; Total recoveries for Tag Code 185234 2
Tag code number 185235
2005/2007/Spring/H-Spius Creek H/R-Nicola R/Recovered CDFO 2009 Freshwater Sport 4; Total recoveries for Tag Code 185235 4
Tag code number 185236
2005/2007/Spring/H-Spius Creek H/R-Nicola R/Recovered CDFO 2009 Freshwater Sport 1;Totalrecoveries for Tag Code 185236 1
Tag code number 185237
2005/2007/Spring/H-Spius Creek H/R-Nicola R/Recovered CDFO 2009 Freshwater Sport 3;CDFO 2009 Ocean Troll (non-treaty) 1; WDFW2009 Ocean Troll (non-treaty) 1; Totalrecoveries for Tag Code 185237 5
Tag code number 185728
2005/2007/Spring/H-Spius Creek H/R-Nicola R/Recovered CDFO 2009 Freshwater Sport 2;WDFW 2009 Treaty Troll 1; Total recoveries for Tag Code 185728 3
Tag code number 185926
2006/2008/Spring/H-Spius Creek H/R-Nicola R/Recovered ADFG 2010 Ocean Troll (non-treaty) 2; CDFO 2010 Mixed Net and Seine 6; CDFO 2010 Ocean Sport 2; CDFO 2010Ocean Troll (non-treaty) 5; WDFW 2010 Ocean Troll (non-treaty) 2; Totalrecoveries for Tag Code 185926 17
Tag code number 185935
2006/2008/Spring/H-Spius Creek H/R-Nicola R/Recovered CDFO 2010 Mixed Net and Seine 4; CDFO 2010 Ocean Sport 5; CDFO 2010 OceanTroll (non-treaty) 2; WDFW 2010 Ocean Troll (non-treaty) 3; WDFW 2010 Treaty Troll 2; Total recoveries forTag Code Tag code number 185935 16
Tag code number 185936]
2006/2008/Spring/H-Spius Creek H/R-Nicola R/Recovered CDFO 2010 Mixed Net and Seine5; CDFO 2010 Ocean Sport 3; CDFO 2010Ocean Troll (non-treaty) 2; WDFW 2009 Estuary Sport 1; WDFW 2010 Treaty Troll 1; Total recoveriesfor Tag Code 185936 12
So did you notice the only recovered CWTwhere for brood stocks 2005 and 2006? Did you also notice the largest number of recoveries where from broodstock 2006, released in 2008? Take a closer look at those numbers recovered in 2009 and 2010. Want to recap ALL the CWT recoveries? It looks like this:
Total Nicola CWT recoveries for broodstocks between 2005 and 2010 = 48.
Ocean Sport CWT recovered = 10.
FreshWater Sport recovered = 11
Total Commercial (all commercials) = 37
Total Commercial (Canada) = 25
In case you didn’t note… 52% of the Nicola 4-2 recovered CWT, are by CANADIAN COMMERCIAL FISHERIES!