Natives urge closing of sport fishery to save chinook salmon

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Natives urge closing of sport fishery to save chinook salmon


MARK HUME

VANCOUVER— From Wednesday's Globe and Mail

Published Tuesday, Apr. 05, 2011 7:41PM EDT

Last updated Tuesday, Apr. 05, 2011 7:53PM EDT



Some British Columbia Indian bands are calling on the Department of Fisheries and Oceans to close a sport fishery off the southern tip of Vancouver Island, saying anglers are intercepting Fraser River chinook that aboriginal fishermen aren’t allowed to catch because the stocks are endangered.

But sport anglers are against a blanket closing, saying the fishery is already being managed carefully, and chances that the threatened stocks will be caught are very small.


Ernie Crey, fisheries adviser to the Sto:lo Tribal Council, said DFO should close the southern approach waters to the Fraser to make sure the fish are protected.s

“DFO’s response has been, ‘We’re not going to change anything, but let’s talk more,’ so they are just avoiding the issue,” he said.

DFO officials couldn’t be reached for comment, but a March 26 letter to the Sto:lo from Susan Farlinger, regional director-general, acknowledged the concerns and said the department will work with first nations on the issue. It did not, however, promise any changes this season.

“It is very frustrating,” said Tracy Sampson, fisheries manager for the Nicola Tribal Association. “If DFO continues on with the same management actions it has followed in the past, we will not have any chinook stocks left in the Nicola River.”

Ms. Sampson said the fish of concern are early running chinook, which are approaching the Fraser River now.

Native, sport and commercial fisheries in the Fraser are closed to protect the fish, which are returning to spawn in several tributaries, including the Nicola. But sport fishing is open in the ocean.

Ms. Sampson said the salt water fishery is taking place even though chinook bound for the Nicola and Coldwater rivers and Spius Creek are in serious trouble.

She said that in 2007 – the brood year for fish returning now – the Nicola had 942 spawners, the Coldwater had 107 and Spius had 64.

Ms. Sampson said projections call this year for just 565 in the Nicola, 66 in the Coldwater and 39 in Spius Creek.

She said that, historically, there were 12,000 Chinook in Nicola, and 4,000 to 6,000 in the Coldwater and Spius systems combined.

“When I talk to the elders, they say their horses couldn’t cross these rivers because they were stepping on fish,” she said.

Ms. Sampson said the Nicola Tribal Association hasn’t had fisheries in the three tributaries for more than 20 years, and in recent years, tribes on the Lower Fraser have also agreed not to fish when early run chinook are around.

She said sport anglers should do the same.

But Ed George, a member of the B.C. Wildlife Federation, said sport anglers are already doing just that in the ocean.

He said DFO has established “rolling closures” that move ahead of the early chinook, stopping fishing when the run comes through each area.

“There are closures along the West Coast of Vancouver Island when the fish come through,” he said. “DFO knows how long it takes the fish from move from point to point, and the closure moves with the fish.

“We think it’s a good system. It doesn’t say, ‘You are not fishing’ – it says, ‘You are not fishing here.’ ”

Mr. George said sport anglers have accepted this because they know the early chinook are in trouble and want to protect them.

“None of us is against conservation,” he said. “We’re all concerned that these fish get where they need to go.”
 
I do not believe that hatcheries don't work..... i.e. Columbia and tribs..

Maybe Mr. Crey should be yelling for more enhancement monies instead of stirring the pot?
 
Hmmmm horses couldn't cross the river because there was so many fish then along came fn drift nets in the river!
 
sporties should recommend fn's should have to hand make there nets and build the canoes as to help save fn heritage and traditional fishing. otherwise there as white me
 
ya its funny how the catching fish part of the heritage is important but the traditional methods of catching aren't important enough to keep up. Its almost as if its about greed :P
 
no nets

My older friends have told me that there did not used to be nets taking all the fish from the front of the river . maybe the natives should use spears only like there ancestors so most of those endagered fish can go spawn .There is no greater threat to stocks of fish world wide than a huge net taking everthing !!!!!
If we don't stop this practice world wide we will not have any salmon ,tuna ,halibut ,yelowtail,white sea bass,rock cod ,marlin ,turtles ,dorado ,herring ,sardines ect ect !!!!
 
i agree ripper ,there are many years when big storms come in sept and wash ALL the eggs down from the spawning beds ,its in these yrs that hatcheries save the run 4 yrs later ,pure fact !!!!
 
Hey, a few bad apples can ruin the bunch. Most sporties I know release way more than they keep but I know a couple guys who have bonked undersized or kept too many on occasion. Most first nations I know are genuinely concerned about their heritage and protecting the salmon but I've seem truckloads of salmon rotting in a ditch at a reserve (I grew up in Tsawwassen). I don't personally know too many commercial fishermen all that well but the ones I do are good guys trying to make a buck. All 3 groups needs to work to figure out the mess we've created. It's easy to poke blame at the other 2 groups which is what has been happening for years and got us into this situation of depleting stocks. I am personally for erring on the side of caution and making limits (not closures) a LOT tighter if need be. From a sporties point of view I personally know that I contribute anywhere between 5-10K per year on my fishing expenses (boat maintenance, gas, gear, lodging, ferries, etc) so I know that if I keep 5-10 fish a year (which is about average for me except this past sockeye season where I got lots smoked for friends) I am putting near $1,000 per fish into our economy which is pretty f'n good for our province. I think small limits with tough fines on violations is the way to go based on my research on the matter.
 
Thanks to all who have posted a comment on this issue. I will only speak for myself today, it is my hope and dream that together; First Nations, Recreational and Commercial will be able to benefit from the salmon resource of British Columbia. This resource was once so great that it is estimated that over 60 million fish returned each year, prior to contact.
Will there be Early timed chinook for our grandchildren? how about for our children? Are the people who fish for recreational purposes really so uncareing for their future? I don't think so, i think that these same people want to be able to bring their grandchildren out and enjoy a good day fishing and being able to bring something home for dinner. But do they (the recreational sector) realize that these stocks can be gone in 16 years? that is four life cycles of the Chinook that return to the Coldwater River, Spius Creek and Nicola River.
When does DFO start to figure out what is returning? In April, when the Albion test fishery (Albion is located near Fort Langley, Approximately 44 km up Fraser River)starts. So three months of fishing in salt water has already occured, without even knowing what is returning. and by the time DFO starts their test fisheries on chinook, the spring 5 (2) are in the mix. And really, i believe that the Albion test fisheries is to gather information on the Spring 5(2)'s and Summer 5(2) not on the Early Timed Chinook 4(2). So with our local stocks in severe decline, it is our only choice to start to speak out to protect these stocks, not for me but for our children and grandchildren to be able to fish.

What do you want to leave the future? remember the decisions made today will effect the next 7 generations.
 
Hey Fresh one, where can i check your "pure fact!!!!"? There were storms before Contact, and the salmon returned in the Millions. Only after the Government took control that we are not depleted of a huge resource that all can benefit from if it was managed properly.
 
does that mean the sporties will fish from the shore line, only? How about using only a stick with string and a worm instead of all the new technology that is available today?
 
Nice trolling there, declining stocks.

Actually ... no, not really.
 
One might look at the real reason these stocks are where they are.
How do you solve that 95% of them were taken by the F/N in river? And please check with DFO on this as these are their numbers.



Thanks to all who have posted a comment on this issue. I will only speak for myself today, it is my hope and dream that together; First Nations, Recreational and Commercial will be able to benefit from the salmon resource of British Columbia. This resource was once so great that it is estimated that over 60 million fish returned each year, prior to contact.
Will there be Early timed chinook for our grandchildren? how about for our children? Are the people who fish for recreational purposes really so uncareing for their future? I don't think so, i think that these same people want to be able to bring their grandchildren out and enjoy a good day fishing and being able to bring something home for dinner. But do they (the recreational sector) realize that these stocks can be gone in 16 years? that is four life cycles of the Chinook that return to the Coldwater River, Spius Creek and Nicola River.
When does DFO start to figure out what is returning? In April, when the Albion test fishery (Albion is located near Fort Langley, Approximately 44 km up Fraser River)starts. So three months of fishing in salt water has already occured, without even knowing what is returning. and by the time DFO starts their test fisheries on chinook, the spring 5 (2) are in the mix. And really, i believe that the Albion test fisheries is to gather information on the Spring 5(2)'s and Summer 5(2) not on the Early Timed Chinook 4(2). So with our local stocks in severe decline, it is our only choice to start to speak out to protect these stocks, not for me but for our children and grandchildren to be able to fish.

What do you want to leave the future? remember the decisions made today will effect the next 7 generations.
 
almost sounds like another incarnation of unknown......almost
 
The mouth of the fraser is in my back yard (pretty near). In my Dads time the early runs were almost as numerous as the summer run Chinook returning to the Fraser. There are only a tiny fraction left of the once great run of "Springers" returning to the Fraser. It is my understanding that heavy commercial fishing on the early runs was responsible for the declines. I may be mistaken, and it really doesn't matter which user group was responsible for the declines. All user groups contributed to overfishing in the past. The question is, how do we reverse the declines now that runs are threatened with extinction.

I am in favor of conservation, and if that means more restrictions, so be it. I want my kids (and their kids) to be able to enjoy Salmon fishing in the future. If that means I have to release more Springs today, I am more than willing to do that to preserve the resource for the future. There are still many other species avaiable in the ocean for a good table feast. Bottom fish, Prawns, Crabs, and all the other species of Salmon still make for a pretty fine meal. All of these are a fine substitute for trophy or threatened species of Chinook for table fare.

Every user group needs to not be so greedy. Take only what you need.

To each there own. That's just the way I feel about it, and there are different view points than most expressed here.

Just my opinion.
 
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