ship happens
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All hail the new Supreme leader of the mainland. Mr Sparrow
Maintain Priority Access to Chinook and Coho for the Canadian Public in a New Salmon Allocation Policy. Send Your Letter to DFO!
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OldBlackDog
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Control of the Fraser River !We need to be LOUDER and more disruptive. This is the third deal in 2 weeks the minister has signed with a coastal fn for money for commercial vessels.
WE NEED THAT PROTEST ON THE 21st! Period.
Musqueam signs Aboriginal rights deals with federal government
One agreement recognizes Aboriginal rights and title to traditional Musqueam territory and creates a framework within Canadavancouversun.com
ryanonthevedder
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My sympathy meter seems to be broken...
IronNoggin
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Is the Salmon Allocation Policy (SAP) Review Settled? Unpacking the DFO’s Latest Website Update
Is the Salmon Allocation Policy (SAP) Review Settled? Unpacking the DFO’s Latest Website Update - Island Fisherman Magazine
Think the DFO's Salmon Allocation Policy (SAP) review is settled? Think again. The fight for B.C.'s recreational priority is just beginning.
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Enable Canadian residents to generate a respectful, personalized email regarding salmon allocation policy in under 60-90 seconds.
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Quick way to send to people to send a letter. Takes 30 seconds ! Sent to all my guests.
Great link.Protect Salmon Access
Enable Canadian residents to generate a respectful, personalized email regarding salmon allocation policy in under 60-90 seconds.
Quick way to send to people to send a letter. Takes 30 seconds ! Sent to all my guests.
You can edit the subject line and add in other MLA email addresses before sending.
searun
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Yes this is an easy tool for people who are not accustomed to writing letters to express their views. If people use this tool, it is super critical that they use it as a template or starting point, and then make significant edits to ensure the viewpoints expressed are indeed fully representative of your input and your unique perspective and not just a copy/paste exercise. There were form letter templates used that generated a few thousand letters - all of which were collected up and counted for ONE letter in the public consultation process.
Pearl dog
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Curious how this went.
ship happens
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It's this Thursday. I will definetly inform you all how it went. Wish me luck.
ship happens
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Meeting went well. Really well actually. Jill McKnight is a real nice person and a ladner original so she understands the fundamentals. In our meeting I outlined the framework as I see it.
( I am not listing these in any order of importance fyi )
Number one was the economics of the industry. I side by side compared the economics between rec and comm down to dollars and cents, jobs, GST & PST intakes etc etc.
Number 2 was the idea of how can we all sit back and teach this to our kids fundamental. What about the future of Canadians and preserving our livelihoods on the west coast.
Number 3 was outlining the money that we all generate that goes into enhancement, restoration projects, management and an idea of how many volunteer hours the rec industry provides.
Number 4 and thanks @SG2.0 for that list. Was the side by side fish catch numbers between sport and commercial over the last 20+ years.
Anyway that's what I have to report
( I am not listing these in any order of importance fyi )
Number one was the economics of the industry. I side by side compared the economics between rec and comm down to dollars and cents, jobs, GST & PST intakes etc etc.
Number 2 was the idea of how can we all sit back and teach this to our kids fundamental. What about the future of Canadians and preserving our livelihoods on the west coast.
Number 3 was outlining the money that we all generate that goes into enhancement, restoration projects, management and an idea of how many volunteer hours the rec industry provides.
Number 4 and thanks @SG2.0 for that list. Was the side by side fish catch numbers between sport and commercial over the last 20+ years.
Anyway that's what I have to report
Tinny
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We need to be LOUDER and more disruptive. This is the third deal in 2 weeks the minister has signed with a coastal fn for money for commercial vessels.
WE NEED THAT PROTEST ON THE 21st! Period.
Musqueam signs Aboriginal rights deals with federal government
One agreement recognizes Aboriginal rights and title to traditional Musqueam territory and creates a framework within Canada
It's not just a bit of money for new fishing vessels. The Musqeum are now official partners in making fisheries management decisions with DFO in the waters shown on the map everyone has seen. The land title recognition thing in the news is just scare mongering and is really a way for the government to prevent a courtroom battle with an unpredictable outcome. Like what happened in Richmond. But for sure it is a way for the Musqueum to get paid off on anything and everything that any level of government tries to do locally. Their main target will be the UBC lands over the next 10-20 years. They've been saying for a long time that was unjustly taken from them. But the fisheries management thing is what should have use all on this forum furious. At the same time the DFO Minister refuses to meet with industry reps from BC, she's happy to attend this signing ceremony. (With Eby apparently blindfolded because even though he sat in the front row, he had no idea what they were doing!)
....meanwihile all the FN in Smithers, Houston, Fort St. James etc continue to live in poverty.
There is a thread on the Musqueam in the conservation forum. When posting there, we need to stick to the fisheries portion of the conversation. Please keep this thread focussed on the SAP process and keeping the pressure on DFO, the Minister and the BC MP's to preserve the recreational fishery.
Brian
Brian
ship happens
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I want to add on a personal thoughts to one aspect of the economic situation in birds eye view. You all know the 1.2 billion that is the equated average talked about for the rec industry annual average net worth?.. My thoughts are and I spoke about that today is that I think that number is pretty loose. Same with the 9000 projected jobs. I think it's way more. It's super difficult to calculate when you have a huuuuge retail portion of the rec sector, as well as a ton of manufacturing. I mean let's face it.. ( kinda of a patting BC on the back here ), we build and or invented some of the best tackle, gear and machinery in the Pac NW fish land, and alot of it is manufactured here even still. Some went to China, however the busineses are still here and the people inside those businesses. Same with boat builders. How many people does that employ every year in BC? How much does that add to the annual average between the businesses and the consumer? What about transfer tax on property, boats and trailers? PST on new boats and repairs? I'll stop there in hope you get where I'm going with that.
Does BC care?
Do the Feds care?
Feds are wasting trillions and the province is wasting billions.
Do they even care?
BC must care a little bit seeing as how they are trying to scrape up money where ever they can right now. Even putting new regulation for service based companies to inhale PST on labour and other things. As well as higher income tax on the low tax bracket. Do they want to not accept 50 +/- million in provincial tax ever year from the recreational fishing sector? ( based on a loose average PST intake from the 1.2 b ) all for a fish or a right to fish?
The questions are tipping the scale boys. I'd say it's time for some new seats in decision making across the board.
Does BC care?
Do the Feds care?
Feds are wasting trillions and the province is wasting billions.
Do they even care?
BC must care a little bit seeing as how they are trying to scrape up money where ever they can right now. Even putting new regulation for service based companies to inhale PST on labour and other things. As well as higher income tax on the low tax bracket. Do they want to not accept 50 +/- million in provincial tax ever year from the recreational fishing sector? ( based on a loose average PST intake from the 1.2 b ) all for a fish or a right to fish?
The questions are tipping the scale boys. I'd say it's time for some new seats in decision making across the board.
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salmonkiller01
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wildmanyeah
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the comments lol
They said the percentages are "not worked out yet". Expecting a ything less than 80% commie to 20% rec is wishful thinking.
salmonkiller01
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I wonder if in April will all be sitting there shining up our tackle not being able to fish and trollers will be running the straights from French Creek to Victoria with no worries of southern resident killer whales
Decision will be for 2027 season. Not 2026. If that helps anyone plan to sell their boat after the 2026 season as my understanding is 2027 will not be good for the public sector on this front. 2026 will be a more normal year but never know with fn and dfo.
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