Handling halibut at the boat

[Mr. Dean]

Aaaaah....But I haven't met a salamon yet that had me concerned about my safety. lol.
Dean.

It's all good. Keep it comm'n

Some like it rough...
Others just puke!.
Mr. Dean

 

[Red Monster]

Is it just me, or can anyone else hear "Dueling Banjos" in the backgroud?

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It's kinda creepy, Wally.

Remember, it's called "fishing," not "catching."

 

[Tsquared]

Thanks for the clarification on the harpooning and all the posts. We used to catch up to about 50-60 lb halibut on the bottom gear of the salmon trollers but anything more than that just broke off. It was always a b#$%^ shaking those things off--you didn't want to lose a 7" plug, but you always felt like someone was trying to rip your arm out of it's socket before you were done.
You might be interested in this commercial fisherman I met in Osborne Harbour on the east shore of Nova Scotia a few summers ago. I was visiting the old family homestead and went down to check out the dock. I saw a couple of boats with spotting towers and these catwalks off the bow. Talked to one of the owners who showed me what it was for. I had guessed they were chasing tuna because of the spotting tower but he told me they go after swordfish. They fish in the summer cause it has to be relatively calm to spot the swordfish on the surface, then they roar over there and 1 guy gets up on the catwalk with the harpoon (and bouys attached) and lets fly.Now that's basic fishing! I was telling him about commercial salmon fishing out here and he got a gleam in his eye and asked if I wanted to go out on a trip. If I hadn't had a plane to catch in 2 days, i would have. What an experience that would have been...
Tom

 

[wolf]

Cncerened I mostly do trips out of victoria and I really do not see your point of using a gaff or a hook when your dealing with a 50 to 100 lb hali they will sometimes go nuts when you hit them with a hook and I really dont like the struggle and battle you have to do to get it in.I have a few friends who tried it and haul them in with a shark hook one guy got a hook caught between his fingers on his hand and rip there went his skin when the hali took off the other guy still has a screwed up shoulder 5 years later tring to use it. but you use your way I have got a lot of hali and if it was easier trust me I would use it but it is not.

My view is my own after doing this professionally now for over 10 years I do think I know a little about it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Good Luck Wolf

 

[Sam Salmon]

quote:I have a few friends who tried it and haul them in with a shark hook one guy got a hook caught between his fingers on his hand and rip there went his skin when the hali took off the other guy still has a screwed up shoulder 5 years later tring to use it

Well Wolf old boy your friends aren't the sharpest tools in the shed are they?
First off never touch the fish until he's dead!
How could someone end up with a hook in their hand and a lost fish unless they tried to pick up a live Halibut?
And why wasn't the fish still hooked to the rod/reel?
Same goes for the other guy-he forgot that he was supposed to attach the rope to the boat not his hand!!
LOL!!!



livin' la vida pesca!

 

[Red Monster]

http://absastro.tripod.com/bluegrass/dueling2.htm

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Remember, it's called "fishing," not "catching."

 

[wolf]

Well salmon the first guy put the shark hook into a very large hali and as you know they do move around in the water using a double hook up the one hook went into his hand then the hali took off rip out it came. the other guy was basically wresteling it as sometimes you have to do. oh and by the way how are you going to handle a fish if it isnt dead you have to kill it by the will of your own hands it wont die on its own!!!!!!!!!

Wolf

 

[Tailspin]

Yup! Just as expected, This thread has been turned into yet another pissing match. LOOK AT ME, IM THE BEST! Give me a break!!! I had a nice harpoon milled out of stainless with a shovel handle a few crimps and stainless wire with a spare tip for dirt cheap. I know it's to each his own, but Mr.Salmon brains, I happen to be a friend of wolfs and i do hope you are not placing me in the shed of tools my friend? As for your comments, Take it somewhere constuctive as your bathwater is not needed in my cup of tea.Common sense dictates for each situation, it all depends on current, fish size, boat, setup and weather. Besides anything is possible on the chuck.

 

[Tsquared]

That's one I haven't heard, RVP but it makes sense. Thanks.
Tom

 

[yo mama]

I prefer to get out da ol' moonshine, get me self goooooood and sauced, call up Bags, TT, Vinny, make sure that we all got a good weapon of choice and go to town!

I all comes down to what works best for each angler. Now maybe not down here but in the Charlottes there is the odd ocassion that you hook a huge hali while salmon fishing. I have had this happen a fist full of time on big halis. While salmon fishing the conditions are not always idea like the ones you will find most times out hali fishing. This particular day there were seas 6-7 feet with a 124 pound hail on 25 pound test salmon gear with a newb on the gears. In this circumstace a harpoon was the only hope in hell we were getting it in.

Now this might sound like alot of rambling but there is a point...

This hali was pooned and dead within 5 mins

On another occasion a 108 came up to the side of a boat and once again with proper tecnique the fish was on the back deck in 5 mins.

The thing about a harpoon if used properly displaces the first blow and atached a line to the boat or a float before you have every raised a club at it.

On the other hand that you just planted a shark hook in its lips, you have caused no phisical damage to the fish other than pissing it of.

My opinion I know and I garentee some one will ***** about it but it all comes down to safety.

 

[Mr. Dean]

quote: By Mr. Dean.

A friend of mine put this idea in my head last year. Think he might be onto something.

You know how them triple digit critters always come straight up, heads first, w/ mouths wide open?. Have your harpoon (or broom handle) rigged up w/ a large treble, shark sized hook, and ram it down it's gullet as far as you can go before releasing. That fish isn't going nowhere!. <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>

quote:By RVP.

Well why don't you go and buy yourself a big azz treble, a huge swivel and a big split ring and 30ft of 1/4" rope, 3 1/2 to 4 ft of pipe[copper or stainless or aluminum will do]

Thread the rope thru the pipe, tie on the swivel[splice is best] add the split ring and finish by feeding the treble onto the ring.

Now the fun[fisher] part...pull the rope thru the pipe so as the treble shank is inside the end of the pipe and pulled back tight similar to the way you would handle your harpoon.

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Some like it rough...
Others just puke!.
Mr. Dean

 

[Mr. Dean]

RVP;

E-mail on your profile current?.
Dean

 

[Mr. Dean]

Hey RVP.

YOU'VE GOT MAIL!.

 

[TheresOne]

Holy cow Wolf haven't been on the site for a week and all hell breaks loose.Shark hook or Harpoon i,ve got big fish onboth who cares as long as there in the boat.
So when we going fishing?
Flipper and I got 92 yesterday.It was on your magic rig.

There's One!!!!!!!!!

 

[Red Herring]

I personally like the harpoon... I find it easy to stick, and no chance of loosing the fish...

 

[otter]

This is a good discussion, however I am more convinced then ever that for me, who would like to learn halibut fishing and obviously boating them, I WILL hire a guide and learn about it HANDS ON. I actually fear the moment when salmon fishing that I accidently hook onto a halibut, I guess? I have no idea how to competently boat, never mind dress out a halibut. In due time I will hire out the WOLF to teach me. Once thats done I will have the confidence. Until then, no thanks, I had better wait. Wolf, I know your business will get busy soon, any times for me to get this going? I wont be able to do it until May on. Thanks.

B Gibb

 

[Sam Salmon]

I agree that in wild rough conditions a Harpoon might be a better choice especially on light gear.
Also if you stick him right through the gill plate-if you're strong enough-you'll bleed the sucker at the same time.
I don't like DHA's idea about a big treble-2 points too many for me.
Besides how many of those contraptions do you want to carry-it'd take all kinds of time/blood/guts and slime to remove it for the next fish.

livin' la vida pesca!

 

[bite me]

22 caliber bonker

hey!...wheres my float?
uh oh...

 

[Dirtdog67]

Beit poon, hook or gaff the preference is up to the individual.. In my line of work I personally enjoy giving the client not only the thrill of boating a big girl but also showing them what it takes to subdue a fish of that size..
Red Herring, never trust just one poon tip in a big girl.. Always have a second on hand just in case that first one does not hit home.. Only personal experience on that one.
What ever it may be, just quit the pissin, it's all about goin out and havin a good time. jeeezzz-dirty

 

[tyee hunter]

First off, i too prefer to harpoon a fish first, you have more control, i mean last summer we had a 86lber do a cartwheel clear of the water, and quite frankly i wouldnt want too be holding on the the shark hook then.......but it is all a matter of opinion. Now i have a question for some of the more expierianced anglers, i have heared that tying a bouy to the harpoon line is not a good idea due to strong halibut taking the bouy down deep enough to where it implodes and the halibut die on the ocean bottom.....is this true?