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I'm confused was I supposed to supply one? I was only asked for one video. I showed it.
fogged in
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I'm confused too Bones
What is this all about....a no brainer to change course and slow down don't you think?
More bad PR for fish farms
“The captain of the vessel proceeded to basically continue at a speed at its current bearing and then ran right over top of the killer whales. It was a hard scene to watch,”
https://globalnews.ca/news/4306222/fish-farm-vessel-orcas-meares-island/
What is this all about....a no brainer to change course and slow down don't you think?
More bad PR for fish farms
“The captain of the vessel proceeded to basically continue at a speed at its current bearing and then ran right over top of the killer whales. It was a hard scene to watch,”
https://globalnews.ca/news/4306222/fish-farm-vessel-orcas-meares-island/
we know your confused.... the whale topic is another thread or if it concerns you so much start a new one. do yo have any input on fish farms? or will you keep coming here to change the topic?
how many warnings does adim have to give you? really what does a captain of a vessel have to do with fish farms killing off wild salmon??? wow
come to the table with a few facts in your pocket please, many questions have been asked and this is all you have? no answers?
how many warnings does adim have to give you? really what does a captain of a vessel have to do with fish farms killing off wild salmon??? wow
come to the table with a few facts in your pocket please, many questions have been asked and this is all you have? no answers?
Stronger measures being developed for fish processing industry
https://news.gov.bc.ca/releases/2018ENV0054-001332
https://news.gov.bc.ca/releases/2018ENV0054-001332
fogged in
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Never had a warning from admin bones...you seem to be an expert on admin warnings...thanks for the warning and thanks for your factual postings and concerns for staying on topic.
My point was the story demonstrates more bad publicity for Fish Farms.
Sorry if I offended you.
rockdog
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This is actually good news. But bad news for the BC Farms who refuse to change with the public pressure, or the time so to speak. Resist change and someone else will take your spot.
https://www.fishfarmingexpert.com/article/first-us-land-farmed-salmon-go-on-sale/
https://www.fishfarmingexpert.com/article/first-us-land-farmed-salmon-go-on-sale/
B.C. fish processing plants discharging effluent ‘lethal to fish,’ audit finds
https://thenarwhal.ca/b-c-fish-processing-plants-discharging-effluent-lethal-to-fish-audit-finds/
https://thenarwhal.ca/b-c-fish-processing-plants-discharging-effluent-lethal-to-fish-audit-finds/
fogged in
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Job opportunity for one of the Fish Farm supporters on this forum,
https://www.fishfarmingexpert.com/jobs/freelance-journalist-canada/
https://www.fishfarmingexpert.com/article/first-us-land-farmed-salmon-go-on-sale/
https://www.fishfarmingexpert.com/jobs/freelance-journalist-canada/
https://www.fishfarmingexpert.com/article/first-us-land-farmed-salmon-go-on-sale/
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Wow…looks like a perfect job for Dennis Reid!!!
You should be able to find lots of reasons for them not to enter into the Open Net Pen farming of Atlantic Salmon…eh???
Go for it Dennis!! You are more then qualified!
http://www.bcadventure.com/adventure/angling/
"Salmon farming is an economically and socially significant industry in both Pacific and Atlantic Canada. It has passionate advocates and detractors, and both the science involved in fish production and the technology used is becoming increasingly sophisticated. You will be expected to keep track of events in Canada and the US. Ideally you will be based on Vancouver Island or in the Vancouver area"
Maybe you can help get them to invest in land based Fish Farms in B.C.You should be able to find lots of reasons for them not to enter into the Open Net Pen farming of Atlantic Salmon…eh???
Go for it Dennis!! You are more then qualified!
http://www.bcadventure.com/adventure/angling/
Birdsnest
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Birdsnest
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It has the "donate" button so obviously subject to the BS test. For example PRV was found in that blood water however, from one of my links above:
So far, no diagnostic test can detect the live virus. The only test used for screening PRV is based onmethods (qRT-PCR) that detect a small part of the PRV genetic materials. These tests on wastewater are insufficient to provide information on the viability or integrity of the virus after treatment and release.
So the article you post agent is dishonest and misleading.
In consideration of the literature reviewed, we conclude that the risk of wild salmon contracting HSMI as a result of exposure to viral PRV particles from processing plant effluent is low. We base this assessment on the following observations: 1. Salmon in BC can have high levels of PRV and remain asymptomatic without compromise of physiological fitness, 2. Surveys of Pacific salmon positive for PRV have not disclosed impacts on fish health; the presence of PRV in salmon is not definitive of disease, 3. PRV predates the introduction of Atlantic salmon to BC and decades of fish health surveys have not reported HSMI in wild salmon, and 4. The threat posed to salmon by Norwegian strains strongly indicates that the BC strain is different and does not induce HSMI like the Norwegian strain. This assessment is based on review of the current literature and information available. There are research gaps and needs that are identified that will further refine the risk assessment when complete. ------ Used outdated PRV literature in their review then put in that disclaimer at the end to protect their reputation.
Campbell said he’s surprised and dismayed that the audit used outdated information on PRV, drawing on a March report by the B.C. Centre for Aquatic Health Sciences instead of a paper published in May by scientists from DFO and the Pacific Salmon Foundation that highlighted a link between PRV and disease in Chinook salmon.
“They’re not taking into account the latest science that says that PRV is a risk to wild salmon.”
“We’re calling on the government to recognize that these viruses, and especially PRV, do pose more than a minimal risk of harm to wild salmon,” he said.
The audit pointed out that the only test method currently available for PRV involves detecting genetic material present in effluent, and that B.C. lacks adequate lab capacity to monitor and report on viruses.
Heyman said the ministry is aware of the most recent study on PRV and “that’s exactly why we want to work with the federal government to reduce the impacts of PRV on fish stocks to the greatest extent possible.”
“They’re not taking into account the latest science that says that PRV is a risk to wild salmon.”
“We’re calling on the government to recognize that these viruses, and especially PRV, do pose more than a minimal risk of harm to wild salmon,” he said.
The audit pointed out that the only test method currently available for PRV involves detecting genetic material present in effluent, and that B.C. lacks adequate lab capacity to monitor and report on viruses.
Heyman said the ministry is aware of the most recent study on PRV and “that’s exactly why we want to work with the federal government to reduce the impacts of PRV on fish stocks to the greatest extent possible.”
Birdsnest
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This is not correct. The current testing method can not distinguish between viruses which are alive or dead. This is why a positive prv test can come from effluent samples that have been disinfected.
To repeat, the most recent study states MAYBE prv is having an effect on wild salmon. If BC's largest Agricultural export industry is subject to closure based on MAYBE then the sky is the limit for shutting down other industry's ie, sport fishing. We are already starting to see symptoms on this and is awful. Orcas are suffering, salmon returns are very unstable and low. Action must be taken however I get pretty concerned when action is based on MAYBE. I feel that the precautionary principle could be a vicious unstoppable virus itself. Its good to know that work is under way on prv.
WOW! That looks like something the PR firms pumped-out. Maybe they actually did.
They NEGLECT to mention that almost all of the work on PRv has been done on FARMED salmon - who do not have to run away from predators and who get fed.
They also do not mention that the location and timing of ANY outbreak is hidden by the regulators and industry so effects on adjacent wild stocks cannot be investigated nor measured. There is then NO WAY that: Surveys of Pacific salmon positive for PRV" could "disclose impacts on fish health".
They also neglect to acknowledge the real physiological effects that can and do happen (lesions, jaundice) that happen AFTER the virus disappears from the hosts body.
They neglect to mention that ther BC strain is very closely related to the Norwegian strain and could only plausibly get here through the FF industry. Instead they state: "The threat posed to salmon by Norwegian strains strongly indicates that the BC strain is different and does not induce HSMI like the Norwegian strain".
Hello Gary Marty??
Birdsnest
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Where did you get this part about a virus disappearing. Its the first I hear of this.
How do you know that the norwegian strain isn't from BC?
Whole in the Water
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How would BC wild salmon fish get a Norwegian strain of PRV found in Atlantic farmed salmon?
The virus disappears?
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