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Birdsnest
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Very slick and the first nations do not have to back their views with science either way. Very clever.
This is going to bite activists in the a$$ and its going to leave a mark!
Birdsnest
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I wonder whose side Almo will take?
Interesting question. She has done nothing but flaunt first nations stance on salmon farms.
At least the agent doesn't YELL! Thanks agent I appreciate that.
Killing all things wild? Well the farms seem to be missing the sea lions, the seals, the king fishers, the herons and the racoon and what ever else that is wild and thriving, thriving on WILD salmon.
Back to my question,
In the article posted it says.....According to photographs from independent biologist Alexandra Morton, young wild salmon near the fish farms were infected with 10 to 20 lice.
So were is the sampling data to back up this 10-20. I ask for the numbers because they can't lie. It seems you people can answer questions not on topic....... Lol, you seem to think I'm looking for the fish farms numbers. I posted those last year on the Broughton and you ignored them. Now your standing behind them...... Flip
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GLG
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Perhaps you should be asking that question to the ff industry after all they are responsible to prove that they are not harming the wild smolts. They have known that they have a major problem since last March and have had plenty of time to sample the area for this years out migration of wild smolts. You would think they would be happy to prove that they do no harm or they could simply hide the fact that sealice are pouring out of their sites and infecting the wild smolts and hope that fellas like you provide cover on social media.
Again.... People are saying they are loading wild smolts, how many sampled? How many infected? What was the avg per smolt? etc, etc does this information exist? Or is this just finger pointing?
I dont need the fish farm numbers.... Those fish are not able to freely swim away. Can somebody back up the accusations you are making? 10-20 smolts on wilds? Nothing else?
GLG
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cuttlefish
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Looks like chum smolts to me. I don't think pinks have parr marks in freshwater or as smolts. As adults the have spots. https://www.fws.gov/alaska/cybersalmon/pink.htm#section5
GLG
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I got the photo from this news site.... may I suggest you take up a new hobby as you are being ridiculous.
‘Dead fish swimming’: Lice from fish farms infecting wild baby salmon in B.C.
https://www.thestar.com/vancouver/2...h-farms-infecting-wild-baby-salmon-in-bc.html
I agree; that or they are very skinny sockeye. Why are these photos never identified by the photographer?
wildmanyeah
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https://thetyee.ca/Analysis/2018/05/17/Sea-Lice-Overwhelms-Fish-Farms-Clayoquot-Sound/
Sea lice attached to a juvenile chum in Clayoquot Sound. Photo courtesy Alexandra Morton.
http://aptnnews.ca/2018/05/26/b-c-fish-farms-treating-sea-lice-outbreak-with-hydrogen-peroxide/
(Sea lice attached to a juvenile salmon in Clayoquot Sound. Photo courtesy Alexandra Morton, May 2018)
wildmanyeah
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just more almo hysteria
now were up to 34 per........ were's the sampling data to back this up? 10-20 , now its 34.... something is fishy here. this is why i ask for the numbers. they dont lie, same person has made different claims.
"By law the company must keep sea lice levels to an average of three motile lice per adult fish, but sea lice levels on Cermaq farms have reached 10 times that level or up to 34 sea lice per fish."
Take a swim under one. Matter fact take a camera.
Post on here.
Does it look any thing remotely close to natural environment. NOT.
Matter of fact... Why is it so many prawn and crab fishers have packed up and move elsewhere?
Sea side Net Pens are destroying all things natural. In around and below all these farms period.
Looking forward to your pics Birdy.
WOW! the FF pundits are yet again on the prove the sea lice have an effect on the juvie wild salmon yet again - pretending that they forgot all the evidence/data. Gents: we already had this conversation/debate Ad nauseum many times. Reference:
http://www.sportfishingbc.com/forum...lice-and-fish-farms.64546/page-21#post-856060
http://www.sportfishingbc.com/forum...-farm-trouble-in-bc.67598/page-19#post-853048
http://www.sportfishingbc.com/forum...lice-and-fish-farms.64546/page-21#post-856060
http://www.sportfishingbc.com/forum...-farm-trouble-in-bc.67598/page-19#post-853048
GLG
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Myth: Sea lice don't harm wild smolts, they can't just because.
Perhaps we should just consider this a low level zombie argument infection. You know the one that keeps coming back from the dead only to be knocked back down and placed back in its grave.
I wonder what set them off this time? You think this might have done it?
http://www.namgis.bc.ca/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/lou_broughtonfn_27june2018-sm.pdf
Perhaps we should just consider this a low level zombie argument infection. You know the one that keeps coming back from the dead only to be knocked back down and placed back in its grave.
I wonder what set them off this time? You think this might have done it?
http://www.namgis.bc.ca/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/lou_broughtonfn_27june2018-sm.pdf
GLG do you actually know or have any information on how many smolts have died? (you say they die when on migration routes) or do you just see lice and so therefore there's lice everywhere. so fish must be dying at and exponential rate?.
is there any data collected by the occupied areas? (or are they just sitting around). is there any lice maps available to see were the lice counts along migration routes are at numbers wise? has there been or is there any science being done on counts outside the infected farms? any citizens on science projects showing seal lice on wild smolts? has there been any downstream studies in the wake of sea lice?
could you post there numbers? sure would help to see what your selling
is there any data collected by the occupied areas? (or are they just sitting around). is there any lice maps available to see were the lice counts along migration routes are at numbers wise? has there been or is there any science being done on counts outside the infected farms? any citizens on science projects showing seal lice on wild smolts? has there been any downstream studies in the wake of sea lice?
could you post there numbers? sure would help to see what your selling
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