fish farm siting criteria & politics

quote:
Yes agent, I do rememeber the Ford study. And I do remember that she and Ransom Myers compared River systems to determine the impacts. However, the rivers chosen were not comparable,
Yes they were, sockeyefry - and don't forget that this is published, peer-reviewed work.

Ford compared regions (and not individual watersheds or instream habitat) using escapement data (overall numbers of returning adult salmon over a long time frame).

We already previously discussed this earlier on this thread. I'm not sure whether you are not getting this because you don't have the background to understand this - or that it is because you don't want to.

Instream habitat data is irrelevant using this type of statistical risk analysis utilizing escapement data from a number of rivers over a large geographic area. The type of study that you may be alluding to would instead be a "capacity" study - something difficult to do - with large margins of error.

This is instead an "impact" study utilizing multivariate stats to tease-out and apportion changes due to differences in impacts to watershed areas.

Don't forget also that she errored on the side of fish farmers stating that "as a MINIMUM" (verses a maximum) at least 50% of the population-level impacts are due to salmon farming world-wide.

quote:
and she failed to determine all causes of population decline. In other words, she was out to prove an agenda, not find scientific fact.
No, quite the opposite. She published on this. That is science. All you have is your biased desire to not read or understand the implications of Ford's study.
quote:
This is the problem with you antis. You have an agenda, which is to see salmon farming shut down
Actually, I am not against "aquaculture" - just the open net-cage technology. And yes - open net-cages are obsolescent and dangerous technology when superimposed against impacts to adjacent wild salmon stocks. So, yes of course it should be shut down. Duhh!!
quote:
you ignore studies which may suggest the real declines may be due to something other than what is on your agenda
Actually, if you re-read the previous numerous postings on this thread - you will see that we do anything but ignore other studies. It is all there for anyone to read - pros and antis.
quote:
In short you hurt a lot of people and salmon due to your short sightedness.
The same can be said of the denial by the fish farming industry re: it's impacts to salmon stocks and the communities dependent upon them.
quote:
Just look at the last post. This guy is publishing his opinion, not facts.
Ya, just like you and me - he has an opinion.

However, this person is a Salmon Stock Assessment Biologist who is familar with the area. I would suggest that this person would know far more about impacts to the adjacent wild salmon stocks than some guy who stays on a fish farm site throwing feed to caged fish - don't you think?
 
The Campbell River Mirror, 14th October
Fish farms 2 Good point: Fish farms

Letter to the Editor

Re: Good point: Fish farms

Mr. Odd Grydeland makes a good point about the number of jobs dependent upon the salmon farm industry. Closing them down would certainly result in many job losses. However, he ignores several critical facts and issues:

1. Closed containment – A recently released study by the B.C. government recommended that all salmon farms move to closed containment within five years. There is good reason to believe that closed containment technology would be economically viable, albeit expensive for the industry to adopt. Naturally, the industry claims that they are unable to comply with this recommendation. General Motors said they could not produce cars that got more than 25 miles per gallon until the public demanded them. Now, such cars are the norm. The industry can and will adopt closed containment when we require it of them.

2. Job loss – The fact is that more jobs will be lost as the wild salmon disappear than if salmon farms move towards closed containment. As wild salmon disappear, the traditional way of life for both First Nations people and those fishing guides, fishers, eco-tour operators and resort owners and employees of North Island and beyond will also disappear. Do you really want to give up an entire vibrant ecosystem and the myriad jobs it provides in order to preserve a smaller number of jobs in an environmentally-destructive, foreign-owned multi-national industry? It does not make sense politically, socially or economically.

3. The environmental costs – There is no longer a scientific debate about the impact of fish farms on wild salmon. The scientific data is overwhelming and only the fish farm “scientists” dare to dispute it. Just look at salmon returns over the past few years. Grizzly bears in the Glendale River are starving because of low salmon returns. Juvenile fish travelling past the farms pick up lethal loads of sea lice. Clam beaches down-current from fish farms are damaged or destroyed by effluent from the farms.

I could go on and on about toxins released, ecosystem damage and the overall negative effect of the salmon farms on the marine and terrestrial environment of B.C. The bottom line is simple, do you want a healthy ecosystem with lots of good jobs, including closed-containment fish farms or to continue with open net fish farms, some good jobs and a destroyed ecosystem? To me, the choice is clear.

Steve Strand Ph.D

Marine Biologist, Quadra Island

http://www.bclocalnews.com/vancouver_island_north/campbellrivermirror/opinion/letters/30975334.html
 
Numbers spawning in five key indicator streams down 90 per cent
Scott Simpson

A stunning collapse of pink salmon runs on the British Columbia central coast is reopening a charged debate about the looming extinction of wild salmon that breed near fish farms.

The number of pink salmon spawning this autumn in five key indicator streams in the Broughton Archipelago area has dropped as much as 90 per cent compared to their parent runs in 2006, and constitutes only about two per cent of pink salmon abundance in the year 2000.

Counts of spawning fish, which will be finalized early next month, underscore predictions published last year in one of the world's foremost research journals, Science, that pink salmon will be extinct in the Broughton by 2015.

The Dec. 14, 2007, Science article grabbed international headlines, sparking 500 news articles, particularly in nations with large aquaculture operations.

The article's authors asserted a link between the decline of Broughton pink salmon populations and hyper-concentrations of sea lice at salmon farms in the area, with juvenile pinks devastated by louse infestations arising from the farms.

One of the authors, Martin Krkosek, won a Governor-General's Gold Medal for PhD research into links between sea lice and salmon while another, Alexandra Morton, is awaiting a B.C. Supreme Court ruling on her challenge of the province's authority to regulate and approve salmon farm locations.

The article was condemned by salmon farmers and government scientists in B.C., who called its conclusions premature.

Earlier this month, Fisheries and Oceans Canada reported that pink salmon spawners coming back to the region's primary indicator stream, Glendale Creek, were substantially lower than the 2006 parent brood year -- roughly 15,000 compared to 182,000 two years ago.

Four other streams are also down.

Morton said sea lice are not the only threat to young migrating wild salmon -- but suggested the government should take action to give the fish a chance to recover, including closing fish farms along migration routes.

"When you are down this low you are about to extinguish the DNA that is in these fish which are built for this river.

"They've got to move some farms out of there right now."

Krkosek said a full assessment of the situation will require spawning data from streams outside the Broughton study area -- to determine if ocean survival factors came into play.

But he agreed with Morton that it was better to be cautious.

"In a situation like this where you have really, really depressed salmon populations, management should be doing everything they can to improve the survival of the fish that are remaining," he said.

Fisheries and Oceans Canada, which acts as as strong proponent of salmon farming, declined The Vancouver Sun's request for comment.

Ian Roberts, communications manager for Marine Harvest Canada, agreed outside factors may have had an impact on Glendale.

But he noted that Marine Harvest supports research to reduce potential fish farm impacts.

Beginning in 2010, the company will each year alternately fallow farms along one of two migration routes, and will not pen adult salmon on either of those routes when pink salmon fry migrate in spring.

He also noted that 2007 was the lowest year on record for intensity of sea lice infestations on the fish the company produces at its Broughton farms.

"We obviously know there is an impact.

"We've never said at what level that impact might be but certainly we will do whatever it takes to ensure we are minimizing the risk."

ssimpson@vancouversun.com
http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news/business/story.html?id=6d3af277-d143-4115-adf9-25a2825e342a
 
Numbers spawning in five key indicator streams down 90 per cent
Scott Simpson

A stunning collapse of pink salmon runs on the British Columbia central coast is reopening a charged debate about the looming extinction of wild salmon that breed near fish farms.

The number of pink salmon spawning this autumn in five key indicator streams in the Broughton Archipelago area has dropped as much as 90 per cent compared to their parent runs in 2006, and constitutes only about two per cent of pink salmon abundance in the year 2000.

Counts of spawning fish, which will be finalized early next month, underscore predictions published last year in one of the world's foremost research journals, Science, that pink salmon will be extinct in the Broughton by 2015.

The Dec. 14, 2007, Science article grabbed international headlines, sparking 500 news articles, particularly in nations with large aquaculture operations.

The article's authors asserted a link between the decline of Broughton pink salmon populations and hyper-concentrations of sea lice at salmon farms in the area, with juvenile pinks devastated by louse infestations arising from the farms.

One of the authors, Martin Krkosek, won a Governor-General's Gold Medal for PhD research into links between sea lice and salmon while another, Alexandra Morton, is awaiting a B.C. Supreme Court ruling on her challenge of the province's authority to regulate and approve salmon farm locations.

The article was condemned by salmon farmers and government scientists in B.C., who called its conclusions premature.

Earlier this month, Fisheries and Oceans Canada reported that pink salmon spawners coming back to the region's primary indicator stream, Glendale Creek, were substantially lower than the 2006 parent brood year -- roughly 15,000 compared to 182,000 two years ago.

Four other streams are also down.

Morton said sea lice are not the only threat to young migrating wild salmon -- but suggested the government should take action to give the fish a chance to recover, including closing fish farms along migration routes.

"When you are down this low you are about to extinguish the DNA that is in these fish which are built for this river.

"They've got to move some farms out of there right now."

Krkosek said a full assessment of the situation will require spawning data from streams outside the Broughton study area -- to determine if ocean survival factors came into play.

But he agreed with Morton that it was better to be cautious.

"In a situation like this where you have really, really depressed salmon populations, management should be doing everything they can to improve the survival of the fish that are remaining," he said.

Fisheries and Oceans Canada, which acts as as strong proponent of salmon farming, declined The Vancouver Sun's request for comment.

Ian Roberts, communications manager for Marine Harvest Canada, agreed outside factors may have had an impact on Glendale.

But he noted that Marine Harvest supports research to reduce potential fish farm impacts.

Beginning in 2010, the company will each year alternately fallow farms along one of two migration routes, and will not pen adult salmon on either of those routes when pink salmon fry migrate in spring.

He also noted that 2007 was the lowest year on record for intensity of sea lice infestations on the fish the company produces at its Broughton farms.

"We obviously know there is an impact.

"We've never said at what level that impact might be but certainly we will do whatever it takes to ensure we are minimizing the risk."

ssimpson@vancouversun.com
http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news/business/story.html?id=6d3af277-d143-4115-adf9-25a2825e342a
 
The truth about fish farms is that they are floating pig pens. they would be rampant with disease if it weren't for the loads of antibiotics they pump at their fish. The parasites get stronger and stronger and stronger. Then the bugs leave the cozy confnes of the open net pens and swim out to open ocean where they attack every living organism they can find. Pandoras box will open one day and when it does the salmon, ahhh, the real salmon will all be toast. The fish farm Industry has ever, I repeat, EVER only had one arguement against closed containment pens. "Quote"They aren't economically viable at this point" They don't even try and make the arguement anymore that they're safer, just that it's less profitable. That alone should clue you in. It's a shell game folks. While the fish farm lobby has you watching the money hand, the toxic environmental hand is hiding the marble. If you concentrate on the marble, which is the toxicity of the open net pens, then the money won't matter and governments will have to act. Close the pens or close the farms. Here's one real important set of facts. The fish farm Industry brings in 1/10 the money of sportsfishing. The fish farm industry is 99% Foreign Owned. The fish farm industry contributes more money to Gordon campbell's Liberals than any other organization, or at least they were. There's always an easy solution though. Don't buy the crap they sell, and don't shop at stores that carry their fish. Make sure you tell the store manager why you no longer come to his/her store. Tell them when they stop buying the garbage from the fish farms, you'll be back. Cheers all. Close the pens or close the farms
 
Hey Agent,

Would the Pinks salmon returning this fall have resulted from eggs laid down in the Fall of 2006?
 
quote:Originally posted by sockeyefry

Hey Agent,
Would the Pinks salmon returning this fall have resulted from eggs laid down in the Fall of 2006?
hey sockeyefry - good to hear from you - and yes, you are correct. Pinks are a 2 year old fish. AND before you state it, yes, pink stocks are depressed coast-wide.

The key questions are: are Broughton stocks more depressed (I think probably they are), and by how much, and are these effects due to sea lice and other effects from the open net-cages, and if so - how do you tease-out how much?
 
agentaqua asks: "The key questions are: are Broughton stocks more depressed (I think probably they are), and by how much?

As much focus seems to be on the Glendale River in the Broughton, here are two 'other' reasons why that river may have had poor returns compared to the brood year of 2006. Unfortunately, it is hard to find this information - easy to miss (or ignore).

#1 - THE GLENDALE SPAWNING CHANNEL DOING MORE HARM THAN GOOD?
http://www.wilderness-tourism.bc.ca/docs/GlendaleCleanupPR050907.pdf

Fisheries consultant, Victor Ewart states in 2007;

“[Spawning channels] cannot remain productive without a certain degree of maintenance and management. The spawning gravel was clogged with brown organic matter, which chokes salmon eggs. During the assessment we observed massive amounts of dead eggs in the muck covered gravel. Merely walking on the gravel created large plumes of brown organic matter,” he wrote in his report. “Based on my assessment of the current gravel bed conditions in the Glendale Channel, I highly recommend that a cleaning operation take place.”

This channel was maintained in the summer of 2007, so it was in its worst state in the fall of 2006 which was the time when the 2008 stock were eggs. Was this 1.5 km spawning channel a death trap for returning adults in the fall of 2006?

#2 - WASHOUTS ON ALL RIVER FROM CAMPBELL RIVER TO PORT HARDY

Jeremy Maynard (the 'Ardent Angler) reported in the Courier Islander in the fall of 2006 that monsoon rains had followed a period of dry. The torrential rains washed out rivers and disturbed eggs that were not yet eyed up. He warned of subsequent returns in that region may be severely depressed due to eggs being washed out or disturbed prior to eye up stage. 2008 is that year.

I understand that this post has only one focus, the potential effects of salmon farming, but sometimes it just good practice to tease your brain with other practical and relevant information.
;)
 
Agent,

Sager01 beat me to it. Depressed runs could be the result of the severe flooding and river damage that occurred in late Novembner 2006. Again, all I am saying is we have to look at all contributors, and not simply the one which we have an agenda to destroy.
 
Hey Nerka,

Guess we have to move out of the province, stop all human activity that would have any impact on wild salmon lest the orca starve. Ya can't pick one possible cause, and ignore all the rest. Do you honestly believe that salmon farms have that much widesprtead impact that they are making Orca's starve?
 
The Globe & Mail, 4th November 2008

Salmon and Whales


The killer-whale population has become a compelling example of the impact of the West Coast salmon industry. Nine killer whales recently disappeared from their pods off the south end of Vancouver Island, having probably died of starvation. Steps should be taken to make sure that fisheries allocations take into account the needs of species that cannot survive without Pacific salmon.

All along the West Coast, Pacific salmon - from pinks to Chinook - are under severe pressure.

The diet of resident killer whales consists mainly of salmon, especially Chinook salmon. Earlier this year, some of the 83 killer whales off the north coast of Washington and southern British Columbia, known as the "southern residents," showed signs of weight loss. Marine biologists believe the missing adult whales (including two reproductive females) starved to death. Meanwhile, the "northern residents," a comparatively stable group of about 200 killer whales that range around the northern end of Vancouver Island were hard to spot this summer in the Broughton Archipelago - an area where they used to hold large social gatherings.

There has been a massive drop in the pink salmon population in the Broughton Archipelago. This decline is widely believed to have been caused by sea-lice infestations in the numerous Atlantic salmon fish farms in the area though the research has been deemed inconclusive. Whatever the cause, pink salmon play an important role providing nutrients to the entire ecosystem and when the pink salmon suffer, other species, like the Chinook, can be expected to follow suit. The drop in pink salmon has definitely harmed the grizzly bears in the area that rely on the spawning adults to bulk up for hibernation. There have been reports of large males killing cubs for food.

The department of Fisheries and Oceans salmon-allocation policy should be influenced by the danger that one of the great sea mammals could face extinction, rather than aggravating the risk. Some biologists have suggested that the DFO allocate salmon to killer whales and grizzly bears, as well as to the First Nations, commercial and recreational fishery interests. This suggestion deserves further study.

The DFO's Wild Salmon Policy already recognizes the importance of maintaining the integrity of the ecosystem. The department should move now to achieve it.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20081103.weWhales04/BNStory/specialComment/home
 
The Tyee, 3rd November 2008

Salmon farming protest goes to the UN

By Tom Sandborn


“Give a man a fish and he can eat for a day. Give him a fish farm and he can destroy the fishery and the ecosystem altogether.”

That isn’t exactly how the old saying goes, but it’s a pretty fair synopsis of an open letter sent to the United Nations on November 3 by a group of scientists, First Nations leaders, environmentalists and fishers.

The blue-ribbon group of experts from Canada, Norway, the US, Chile and the United Kingdom are calling for the UN’s Food and Agricultural Organization to take notice of what they call the “ruinous tactics” employed by industrial salmon farming in their countries.

The letter is the end product of a year and a half of international meetings, Alexandra Morton told The Hook in a recent phone interview. The final meeting was held last month near Campbell River.

“The research is showing more and more about the negative impacts of fish farming,” she said.

“Only eight to ten thousand pink salmon returned to the Glendale River this fall, on a river that should see up to 100,000 return. When that run left the river for the open ocean, more than 9 per cent of them were infested with sea lice.”

Critics of industrial fish farming believe that one of its major negative impacts on migrating wild salmon is sea lice infestation. The marine parasites flourish in the crowded pens of fish farms and spread out into the nearby waterways, where migrating salmon are infested.

Signatories to the letter say that industrial fish farming is ecologically devastating and socially destructive, and poses a threat to both local and world food security. They cite the 1995 United Nations Code of Conduct for Responsible Fisheries: “As a primary goal, aquaculture development should conserve genetic diversity and minimize negative effects of farmed fish on wild fish populations, while increasing supplies of fish for human consumption.” The signatories say today’s salmon farmers violate each of these principles.

The protest letter also highlights negative impacts of fish farming on indigenous people.

“They came into my territory and denied, delayed, distracted us from the truth for 20 years with no regard for their impact on the environment and my people,” said Bob Chamberlin, chief of the Kwicksutaineuk/Ah-kwa-mish First Nation in Broughton Inlet.

“I'm deeply ashamed as a Norwegian,” said Kurt Oddekalv of Green Warriors of Norway, also a signatory to the letter. “After damaging our wild salmon, the industrial salmon farmers are fouling the pristine waters of Canada and Chile. Nobody in Norway knows about this, but I will tell them.”
http://www.thetyee.ca/Blogs/TheHook/Food-Farming/2008/11/03/SalmonFarming/
 
If you guys are interested to know how many pinks migrated out of Glendale in 2007, just go to http://www-ops2.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/x...sc stad.htm&targetURLParams=&StopCookieTest=1
You have to register for free the first time but once you get logged on, click on "Glendale Creek Juvenile". You can then look at the year by year bulletins. The 2008 final bulletin is of particular interest as it shows better pink and chum outmigration in spring 2007 than 2008. So despite the facts that the rains of Nov. 2006 were severe and the spawning channel was not cleaned until the summer of 2007, over 7 million pinks were enumerated by DFO in their fry splitter and rotary screw trap. Compare that to an estimated out migration of less than 5 million pinks in 2008 when conditions were more fish friendly.
 
Sager1 wrote;
quote:
This channel was maintained in the summer of 2007, so it was in its worst state in the fall of 2006 which was the time when the 2008 stock were eggs. Was this 1.5 km spawning channel a death trap for returning adults in the fall of 2006?
FYI;
DFO estimated 2006 Glendale adult pink returns = 182,000
DFO estimated Glendale juvenile out-migration, spring 2007 (after severe high water conditions and before maintenance) = 7,694,454 juvenile pinks
DFO estimated 2007 Glendale adult pink returns = 264,000
DFO estimated Glendale juvenile out-migration, spring 2008 (with normal water conditions and after maintenance) = 4,585,434 juvenile pinks

DFO estimated 2008 Glendale adult pink returns = 18,000 (and counting?)
 
quote:Originally posted by cuttlefish

Sager1 wrote;
quote:
This channel was maintained in the summer of 2007, so it was in its worst state in the fall of 2006 which was the time when the 2008 stock were eggs. Was this 1.5 km spawning channel a death trap for returning adults in the fall of 2006?
FYI;
DFO estimated 2006 Glendale adult pink returns = 182,000
DFO estimated Glendale juvenile out-migration, spring 2007 (after severe high water conditions and before maintenance) = 7,694,454 juvenile pinks
DFO estimated 2007 Glendale adult pink returns = 264,000
DFO estimated Glendale juvenile out-migration, spring 2008 (with normal water conditions and after maintenance) = 4,585,434 juvenile pinks

DFO estimated 2008 Glendale adult pink returns = 18,000 (and counting?)
Thanks for the work digging these data out, cuttlefish.

When you compare the 2006 returning adult #'s with 2008's (i.e. 182,000 verses 18,000) - it's apparent that the 2008 even year broodstock is only 10% of the 2006 #'s.

In other words, we lost 90% of the run, somehow.

If you then compare the smolt output from 2006 even-year broodstock that outmigrated in spring/summer 2007, with the 2007 adults and 2008 smolts -
1/ each female of the 91,000-strong 2006 even-year broodstock contributed 84 juveniles to the outmigrating #s (on average, assuming a 50/50 male/female ratio), for a total juvenile outmigration of 7,694,454 juvenile pinks.
2/ while the 132,000-strong 2007 odd-year broodstock females contributed an average of 35 juveniles each for a total juvenile outmigration of 4,585,434 juvenile pinks. This is after the "channel was maintained in the summer of 2007, so it was in its worst state in the fall of 2006 which was the time when the 2008 stock were eggs" as sauger stated above.

If you went back until the first salmon through the Glendale spawing channel - the #'s would be more informative - and you could follow trendlines and upper limits of the channels capacity (as expressed as # smolts released per female) through time.

But, even though DFO built a spawning channel 2.6 km upstream of the mouth to enhance the pink salmon run, way back in 1987 - the Glendale Creek juvenile out-migration has been enumerated by mark recapture of out-migrating fry using a rotary screw trap (RST) only since 2003, and in 2004 the enumeration project did not operate. The 2005 and 2006 RST programs experienced significant trap efficiency issues, compromising the ability of the program to produce abundance estimates. Due to those issues, information from 2003, 2005 and 2006 can only provide a relative index of production as well as timing information.

So unfortunately, we don't have much data to look at the density-dependent capacity of the spawning channel - but it does seem that the 2006/2007 overwintering eggs that came back this year had a higher in-stream survival rate than the eggs overwintered during 2007/2008 when one compares smolts produced per female spawner - as I did above (84 for 2006/2007 verses 35 for 2007/2008 AFTER gravel cleaning).

The suggestion that the 1.5 km spawning channel was "a death trap for returning adults in the fall of 2006" appears unsupported.

However, what we do know is that at least 7,694,454 juvenile pinks escaped their natal stream (i.e. the Glendale spawning channel) in spring of 2007; and that run would be expected to return this fall, 2008.

Even if we assume something like a 2% marine survival (which is a little on the low side, but more "normal" in the past few years), we would expect something like 154,000 pinks to return this year. Instead we got something like 18,000, or only 12% of what would be expected.

The ocean survival rates for pinks in Alaska is normally something like 1.2-3.2%, but the 2002 ocean survival rate was 9.7%. We got a 0.2% marine survival rate for the Glendale River this year.

I would very strongly suggest that the data indicates that the problem is marine survival for outmigrating juvenile pinks, although one would want to index interception from all sources of marine fisheries to compare between years.

It's my understanding that the commercial fleet caught reduced #s of returning pinks this year - definitely not a 9-fold increase in exploitation rates that might be an alternative explanation for the interception.

So, the suggestion that the : "1.5 km spawning channel a death trap for returning adults in the fall of 2006" seems highly improbable.

Okay then, what are the most likely alternative suggestions for a large decrease in marine survival rates for outmigrating juvenile salmon?

Answers:
1/ Global warming effects,
2/ increased predation, and/or
3/ impacts from fish farms.

What's the most likely?

the effect of #1 also effects #2, where warming water may affect not only food availability, but also allows more predators, like mackerel, hake or other more southern-based stocks to invade more notherly waters.

This effect could be determined by comparing marine survival rates of more southern stocks (like the Broughtons) to those of:
1/ other southern stocks, and then
2/ comparing southern stocks to northern stocks (like northern BC and Alaska).

In other words, the Broughton's decreases in smolt marine survival would echo and be similar to other southern stocks; and on average - southern stocks would all be affected the same way when compared to northern stocks.

I'm not sure if this is true. Does anyone have any data on this?

If it were effects from fish farms - then only the Broughton #s would show such dramatic effects.

It would take a bit of digging - but I think we could figure it out.

If we do get the data - I'll bet It's likely a combination of all 3 effects, with the Broughton being affected more than other areas.
 
Howdy,

Has anyone mentioned that the Glendale Grizzly Bears are starving due to a lack of fish? It's happening. So, you don't need to be a rocket scientist to figure that the Orca's are not likely far behind.

At the risk that this may have been posted here already, for those fishfarmers and others who continue to play the 'climate-change' and 'global-warming' card in an attempt to divert attention away from the filth & destruction that is the net-pen business,
when you have a few minutes - read.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/10/an_open_letter_from_the_viscou_1.html

Standing for Wild Salmon,
Terry Anderson

Wild Salmon Alliance
 
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