Fisherboy12
Member
thinking of going out monday, wheres the spot to go?
Halilogger
Active Member
Thanks for the update Haze.[8D]
Island Fish Lifter
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I was out yesterday, just around the corner from browns bay. We got the tail end of the first light bite. It was done by 8:00, then the northwest 25 to 35 blew for the rest of the day. Id like to hear how greensea's been, anyone?
Fill the dam tub!
Fill the dam tub!
salt shaker
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Was out at Browns that saturday missed that 8am bite, and then just got ugly and went home. Went to greensea sunday and landed 1 sox and 1 chum about 16lbs, and talked to a painter boat that landed a 21lbs chum. Sockeye were there, everyone had 1 or 2 in the tub.
lucky ling
Member
Any new reports? Thinking of heading up there this weekend and camping at browns bay.
Island Fish Lifter
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x2 come on, lets have some reports..
Fill the dam tub!
Fill the dam tub!
Island Fish Lifter
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X2..I love a good positive attitude! Needed that!
Fill the dam tub!
Haze
Member
Talked to one of the commercial boats they said that there should be another push of fish comming from way up north.
Also be REAL careful before you bonk your sockeye's check for teeth. There's some Coho starting to show up in the mix so make sure you don't mistake a wild one for something it isn't when things get exciting, I still haven't managed a hatchery but I'll get one sooner or later.
I didn't get a bite last night but then again I wasn't expecting much with the lame tide.
Also be REAL careful before you bonk your sockeye's check for teeth. There's some Coho starting to show up in the mix so make sure you don't mistake a wild one for something it isn't when things get exciting, I still haven't managed a hatchery but I'll get one sooner or later.
I didn't get a bite last night but then again I wasn't expecting much with the lame tide.
Haze
Member
Today was probably one of the most negative encounters with commercial fisherman than I have ever encountered.
We were fishing at Separation Head (in Deepwater Bay) just above the narrows trying real hard for a sockeye or two when in came a seiner. They drove right in past all the boats way back in the boundary into the ‘no fishing zone’ and dropped their net. We then watch them scoop over 13 loads in their dip net before putting back in for a second set!
Then they must have radio’d for their buddies as a second seiner came charging in and while they were finishing up with their second set it proceeded to drop its net back in the ‘no fish zone’ as well.
Meanwhile the rest of us sport fishers, fishing legally were lucky if we got a bite or two.
There is no way these boats didn’t know what they were up to which was evident when the first boat came out of the boundary we were snapping photos and the deck hand flipped us all a two gun salute and gave a mocking “Haw, Ha!”
I later passed the first boat at WallCan on Quadra where it was unloading all its catch.
Both boats were called in and reported by a fellow fisherman but he said from his phone call it didn’t sound like much was going to transpire over the whole incident.
This was closest to water rage I had ever been. It’s a good thing I don’t have a gun on my boat or my passengers just might have fired off a few rounds, they were furious!
We were fishing at Separation Head (in Deepwater Bay) just above the narrows trying real hard for a sockeye or two when in came a seiner. They drove right in past all the boats way back in the boundary into the ‘no fishing zone’ and dropped their net. We then watch them scoop over 13 loads in their dip net before putting back in for a second set!
Then they must have radio’d for their buddies as a second seiner came charging in and while they were finishing up with their second set it proceeded to drop its net back in the ‘no fish zone’ as well.
Meanwhile the rest of us sport fishers, fishing legally were lucky if we got a bite or two.
There is no way these boats didn’t know what they were up to which was evident when the first boat came out of the boundary we were snapping photos and the deck hand flipped us all a two gun salute and gave a mocking “Haw, Ha!”
I later passed the first boat at WallCan on Quadra where it was unloading all its catch.
Both boats were called in and reported by a fellow fisherman but he said from his phone call it didn’t sound like much was going to transpire over the whole incident.
This was closest to water rage I had ever been. It’s a good thing I don’t have a gun on my boat or my passengers just might have fired off a few rounds, they were furious!
Most commercial operators obey the law, but a couple of idiots can blacken a lot of eyes. Just a thought, but given the photos and eyewitnesses, did you know that a private citizen can lay an information (charge)if the 'authorities' decline to do their jobs? It might be worth a try.
Too much water, too little time
Too much water, too little time
lucky ling
Member
Does browns bay have tenting sites available?
Hyde-N-Seek
Active Member
Did see fisheries boat a few week back checking commercial boats in the same area Haze, let's hope they will get their due!
Fishing was slow for us off hotel n tyee pool area. Didn't see much action. There are some nice chinook in the river along with some very nice coho
Hs
Fishing was slow for us off hotel n tyee pool area. Didn't see much action. There are some nice chinook in the river along with some very nice coho
Hs
Halilogger
Active Member
Last time I was there for socks there was a gillnetter in there with his net out WTF!!!! Do we not have any enforcement officers on this coast?
Not mention the vigilant people who take pictures and then report it, and nothing gets done &**&*())_*(*&^^^^&**(&%%$$##$%%%
Not mention the vigilant people who take pictures and then report it, and nothing gets done &**&*())_*(*&^^^^&**(&%%$$##$%%%
Cuba Libre
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Before anyone blows a gasket, better read this first:
Permitted Fishing Within Rockfish Conservation Areas
Recreational fishing
•invertebrates by hand picking or dive
•crab by trap
•shrimp/prawn by trap
•smelt by gillnet
Commercial fishing
•invertebrates by hand picking or dive
•crab by trap
•prawn by trap
•scallops by trawl
•salmon by seine or gillnet
•herring by gillnet, seine and spawn-on-kelp
•sardine by gillnet, seine, and trap
•smelt by gillnet
•euphausiid (krill) by mid-water trawl
•opal squid by seine
•groundfish by mid-water trawl
Fishing activity not listed above is restricted.
And guess what--- Deepwater Bay IS a Rockfish Conservation area, so they are legal.
Should also mention that there is real likelyhood that they were First Nations fishing under A Food and Ceremonial authorization too.
20ft Alumaweld Intruder
Permitted Fishing Within Rockfish Conservation Areas
Recreational fishing
•invertebrates by hand picking or dive
•crab by trap
•shrimp/prawn by trap
•smelt by gillnet
Commercial fishing
•invertebrates by hand picking or dive
•crab by trap
•prawn by trap
•scallops by trawl
•salmon by seine or gillnet
•herring by gillnet, seine and spawn-on-kelp
•sardine by gillnet, seine, and trap
•smelt by gillnet
•euphausiid (krill) by mid-water trawl
•opal squid by seine
•groundfish by mid-water trawl
Fishing activity not listed above is restricted.
And guess what--- Deepwater Bay IS a Rockfish Conservation area, so they are legal.
Should also mention that there is real likelyhood that they were First Nations fishing under A Food and Ceremonial authorization too.
20ft Alumaweld Intruder
Halilogger
Active Member
That boundry is there because on an ebb tide the fish stack up there and DFO figures it would be like shooting fish in a barrel. Now I might be wrong about that but that is what I was told.
I havn`t seen the trollers go in there, So I guess you need a net to fish inside the boundry.
I havn`t seen the trollers go in there, So I guess you need a net to fish inside the boundry.
Halilogger
Active Member
Oh ya they looked caucasian, I guess they could have been 5%
Cuba Libre
Well-Known Member
Haze-- I know it does not make sense.... but that is the way RCAs were set up. You can set prawn and crab traps, and use commercial nets.... but you cant use hook and line. This includes commercial trolling. The rational is that hook and line are far more likely to cause collateral damage to rockfish stocks than salmon nets which normally dont hit the bottom. (and there is subject for a good discussion)
What may futher complicate things are the food and cermonial Native fisheries, using commercial gear, that are allow access, in some cases to areas closed for commercial harvest. Even before Deepwater Bay was pulled in to the RCA program, Native seine boats were fishing inside the "conservation" boundary for F&C. DFO left them alone.
Hope this explains things a little better.
20ft Alumaweld Intruder
What may futher complicate things are the food and cermonial Native fisheries, using commercial gear, that are allow access, in some cases to areas closed for commercial harvest. Even before Deepwater Bay was pulled in to the RCA program, Native seine boats were fishing inside the "conservation" boundary for F&C. DFO left them alone.
Hope this explains things a little better.
20ft Alumaweld Intruder
