Boating to Sooke from Vancouver

Figured I'd get this back up. I still plan on running across to Sooke this summer. Plan is for the JDF Banana Challenge Derby on June 14 and 15th. Only a month and a half away, is anyone interested buddy boating the trip on Friday morning/afternoon? After my trip to the central coast last year (300 miles each way) Sooke should be a piece o' cake, but it was good fun having a second boat along for the ride, if #1 for safety, or #2 on-water camaraderie and good times.

I'll be in a 245 walkaround and cruise in the high 20mph.

Looking forward to it!

Hey super awesome guys from mainland coming to the event. Look forward to seeing you guys there. You guys will be fine see a number guys doing that run from mainland to renfrew north of sooke quite a bit. Just got to time weather out.
 
I just made the round trip this weekend. Thanks to absolutely perfect conditions, we decided late Saturday to make the trip, leaving Vancouver Marina gas dock shortly after 4pm. A little bit choppy coming out of the river and just past Sandheads, then nothing but flat calm conditions. Went through Active Pass and stopped at Pender Island for fuel. From there it was straight through to Pedder. Cruised most of the way there doing an average of 20.3 mph, cruising most of the way doing 27 mph. A relaxed ride in no hurry to arrive (knowing it would be too late to fish), it took us 4 hours 36 minutes from dock to dock. 93.63 miles.

On the way back, after fishing Constance Bank for the first time ;) we did a much straighter route to Pender for gas, then up the west side of Galiano and out of Porlier Pass to Silva Bay for refueling. In the end the round trip and 10-11 hours of trolling burned through 225 litres.

Here's the gpx file from our ride from Vancouver to Pedder.


https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-fV2LoPpqzdd3Q5bDNobmR5anJUMVF1b0RuaHRkQ0VJS3lJ/edit?usp=sharing
 
Excellent. That's exactly what I was talking about doing. Thanks for posting a few numbers.

How big is your boat? Where did you stay overnight?

That link is not working?
 
19 feet with a 135hp Mercruiser. Slept on the boat (full canvas camper top) for the first time.

The link works for me. You just need to download the gpx file and load it in Google Earth or something like that.

Jeff.
 
I am going to make a run from Crescent beach to Sooke on July 18th. I have done this same trip from Crescent beach to Victoria a few times in my 21 foot Campion 602. No problems. Roughest part of the trip was rounding Trial Islands with the rip tide. Across Georgia Straight to Active pass was really calm.

Now I have a 26ft Sea Sport with Volvo diesel so should do really well. My NAV program shows 72nm from Crescent Beach Marina to Secretary Island going through Active Pass. I cruise at 22 nmph so should take about 3 1/2 hours.
I burn about 6 gallons an hour so about 20 gallons. Probably half the cost of the ferry. Only concern is rounding the corner at Trail Islands or race rocks if the wind is blowing up the strait. We are going to leave first light so hopefully the winds have not picked up by then.

Will let everyone know how it goes.
By the way Crescent beach is a good place to launch. You can leave your vehicle and trailer there while your gone.
Really good ramp plus a store and fuel. Can wash your boat down when you come back too.
Just need about 5 feet of tide to get in and out.
Have done that 4 times now. Was Gone a week and no trouble with the car.

Happy fishing!
Dave
 
Roughest part of the trip was rounding Trial Islands with the rip tide. Across Georgia Straight to Active pass was really calm.

try going the inside of Trial next time, much calmer.
keep the yellow marker on your starboard side.
 
Dont you need Nexus to exit through US waters from White Rock?

I am really not sure about passing through the US waters. I just go through and do not do anything as most people have been doing. I have heard you are supposed to call and let them know your plans but you do not need a Nexus either way.
If you have landed in the US, like Point Roberts, then you must declare and have a passport when you come back to Canada. I came back for the US recently and Crescent Beach is a Canada customs reporting station. You just go to fuel dock and call a 1-800 number and report in. They may or may not come to your boat. It was easy.
 
try going the inside of Trial next time, much calmer.
keep the yellow marker on your starboard side.
Thanks Craven. I will try that next week. I looked at the chart and I see the yellow cardinal buoy.
Was not sure of my self when I went passed last time so took the long way around.
 
The ferry out of Tsawwassen runs through US waters every day?
 
If you do not stop on US soil you don't have to clear customs. Works the same for US. Say a boater from Point Roberts wants to fish by Tsawwassen. If they have a the proper Canadian Licence they can cross border via water and fish and don't report to Canada customs unless they land on Canadian soil when they cross the border. If they do land on Canadian soil they would also need to report to US Customs on return to US soil. Don't hit land and don't report to either.
 
If you do not stop on US soil you don't have to clear customs.

That is NOT true... reporting requirements are different between Canada and the U.S. and for commercial ferries and commercial boats than private boaters in Canada. ANY private boater leaving Canadian waters and entering U.S. waters still has to report that to the CBSA:

Not planning to "land" your vessel or did you leave Canadian waters but did not land on U.S. soil?

  • You still need to report to the CBSA. Certain private boaters may contact the CBSA by calling the TRC at 1-888-226-7277 from their cellular telephones upon arrival in Canadian waters. This includes:
    • Canadian citizens and permanent residents who have not landed on U.S. soil; and
    • U.S. citizens and permanent residents who do not plan on landing on Canadian soil.

  • Private boaters that are strictly weaving in and out of Canadian waters but are not in transit, are required to call the TRC only once at the time of their initial entry into Canadian waters. If this activity changes, i.e., the vessel docks in Canada or takes on new persons or goods while in foreign waters, the boaters must report to a CBSA designated marine reporting site and call the TRC to obtain clearance.

  • All other private boaters, including those without cellular telephones, must proceed to a CBSA designated marine telephone reporting site and place a call to the TRC to obtain CBSA clearance. This includes all vessels carrying individuals who are not Canadian or U.S. citizens or permanent residents.
http://www.cbsa.gc.ca/media/facts-faits/096-eng.html

Works the same for US. Say a boater from Point Roberts wants to fish by Tsawwassen. If they have a the proper Canadian Licence they can cross border via water and fish and don't report to Canada customs unless they land on Canadian soil when they cross the border. If they do land on Canadian soil they would also need to report to US Customs on return to US soil. Don't hit land and don't report to either.

This is true in accordance with U.S. reporting laws. IF, you leave and return to a U.S. port, and didn't land in Canada, you don't have to report that to the U.S.:

Pleasure Boat Reporting Requirements
Any small pleasure vessel leaving a United States port into international or foreign waters, without a call at a foreign port, does not satisfy the foreign departure requirement. Therefore, certain fishing vessels, cruises to nowhere, or any vessel that leaves from a United States port and returns without calling a foreign port or place, has not departed the United States.

http://www.cbp.gov/travel/pleasure-boats-private-flyers/pleasure-boat-overview

but hey... look at the bright side. From past experiences CBSA will actually make a U.S. citizen report to the closest designated marine reporting site (again) for another inspection. A Canadian citizen that doesn't land on U.S. soil only has to make a phone call and CBSA will clear you right then and there - on the phone!

FYI... that happens to be a $1,000.00 Canadian fine and will probably lose your NEXUS, if you have one.
 
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Like the ferry, many recreational boaters will pass through U.S. waters when traveling between Active Pass and the Lower Mainland. How many such boaters will report doing so?
I bet Angelina Summer went through U.S. waters too, but I'm willing to bet there was no reporting involved.
 
I thought I had made a point to stay on the CDN side near Pender, but I didn't realize that US waters extended north of Active Pass. It's easily avoidable for next time.

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I emailed Carol, manager at Crescent Beach Marina.
Here is what she said.

You must call CBSA when you are leaving the marina and then call again when you have crossed over US waters and are back in Canadian waters.

She has a meeting with CBSA this summer to try and eliminate this silly rule.

Who drew up the border lines anyway? Why cutoff Point Roberts and isolate boundary bay?
Should have come from Blaine angled down toward Saturna Island.
 
That is NOT true... reporting requirements are different between Canada and the U.S. and for commercial ferries and commercial boats than private boaters in Canada. ANY private boater leaving Canadian waters and entering U.S. waters still has to report that to the CBSA:

Not planning to "land" your vessel or did you leave Canadian waters but did not land on U.S. soil?

  • You still need to report to the CBSA. Certain private boaters may contact the CBSA by calling the TRC at 1-888-226-7277 from their cellular telephones upon arrival in Canadian waters. This includes:
    • Canadian citizens and permanent residents who have not landed on U.S. soil; and
    • U.S. citizens and permanent residents who do not plan on landing on Canadian soil.

  • Private boaters that are strictly weaving in and out of Canadian waters but are not in transit, are required to call the TRC only once at the time of their initial entry into Canadian waters. If this activity changes, i.e., the vessel docks in Canada or takes on new persons or goods while in foreign waters, the boaters must report to a CBSA designated marine reporting site and call the TRC to obtain clearance.

  • All other private boaters, including those without cellular telephones, must proceed to a CBSA designated marine telephone reporting site and place a call to the TRC to obtain CBSA clearance. This includes all vessels carrying individuals who are not Canadian or U.S. citizens or permanent residents.
http://www.cbsa.gc.ca/media/facts-faits/096-eng.html



This is true in accordance with U.S. reporting laws. IF, you leave and return to a U.S. port, and didn't land in Canada, you don't have to report that to the U.S.:

Pleasure Boat Reporting Requirements
Any small pleasure vessel leaving a United States port into international or foreign waters, without a call at a foreign port, does not satisfy the foreign departure requirement. Therefore, certain fishing vessels, cruises to nowhere, or any vessel that leaves from a United States port and returns without calling a foreign port or place, has not departed the United States.

http://www.cbp.gov/travel/pleasure-boats-private-flyers/pleasure-boat-overview

but hey... look at the bright side. From past experiences CBSA will actually make a U.S. citizen report to the closest designated marine reporting site (again) for another inspection. A Canadian citizen that doesn't land on U.S. soil only has to make a phone call and CBSA will clear you right then and there - on the phone!

FYI... that happens to be a $1,000.00 Canadian fine and will probably lose your NEXUS, if you have one.
Agreed, historically, U.S. boaters who fish on the other side of the line but don't anchor, land on Canadian soil or "hover near another boat" did not check in on the Canadian side and many still don't. Enforcement of this is lax on our coast but tighter elsewhere. There was an incident a couple of years back where a U.S. recreation boater was stopped on the Canadian side for not clearing with CBSA and he had to pay a big fine to get his boat back. When I cross out at Swiftsure, I always phone in now.
 
I cross all the time from crescent beach to the gulf islands and never check in or out......so far so good. I know i should, but cant be bothered. Never had a problem, years of doing it.
 
I have done the trip from Crescent Beach to Sooke twice now. Took me about 3 1/2 hours and is just over 70 nautical miles. Fuel burn on my Volvo diesel is about 5 gallons an hour at 25mph. Is a very nice trip but lots of different water conditions. Every corner you turn it changes. I use Big Wave Dave, Environment Canada marine reporting site and Windalert.com to check on winds before I go and along the way. Will be heading over again August 15th for another week of fishing.

Fishing in Sooke was tough for springs July 19/20th. Was much better for us last year although that was mid August. Nice to see lots of hatchery Coho though. Got 6 hatch and only a couple of wild let go.

Can't wait to get over there again!
 
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