Boat Size

[Rum Buddies]

I can certainly give YOU and everyone else a prime example of "copyright infringement"! Let me see, if I remember this right? An article called “The Double Whammy,” written entirely by one individual. That author was contacted by you (Kevin), for permission to have the article re-published. You (Kevin) advised proper credit would be given to the original author. The original author gave written authorization, and also stipulated the article was to be checked for glamour and spelling, prior to re-publishing. Then oops - article is re-published, with NO credit given to the original author? No glamour or spell check completed… and ready for this… SOLELY with YOU (KEVIN) NAMED, and YOUR BUSINESS? Hmm... "Plagiarism" - Not only plagiarism, it is also copyright infringement!

For the record Charlie and myself had been going back and forth sharing information for over a year(2009-2010) in regards to the Fish Farm issue - to paint it as anything other then me trying to help the cause is absurd and shameful.

I know you don't understand this(even though we talked about it) but press releases don't have authors to them, they are a tool that is used to release information at which point a journalist will rewrite them into an article. With your permission I posted it to a wire service to help get the information out to other journalists - NEVER did I tell anyone I wrote your information. What happened(and we talked about this) is they put my user profile at the end of the release. It doesn't say who wrote it(press releases don't have authors) but it does say that I posted. Again we talked about this and it wasn't a big deal in 2009, so why is it a big deal now? I showed Stephen Hume the release and put him in direct contact with you, never did I tell him that I wrote it - you know this and you corresponded directly with Stephen after that.

We both know my only intention was to help disseminate the information and research you had done. You wrote some compelling information in regards to fish farms and I was helping you get it out there - with your permission. You're really sinking low to try and imply that I was stealing your work to somehow profit from it. I don't make a dime off FVI and I certainly didn't gain anything from your article.

What I did do was get your information in the hands of a well known journalist (Stephen Hume) and hopefully a few others that might have read the press release. Silly me I thought the goal was to get the information out and help in the fight against fish farms. For the record Charlie and myself had been going back and forth sharing information for over a year in regards to the Fish Farm issue - to paint it as anything other then me trying to help the cause is absurd and shameful.

Honestly Charlie I'd be ashamed to attack someone like you are attacking me - you know my intention was good but you've been backed into a corner and you can't accept you've been busted - so you're lashing out in any possible way to try and take the attention away from your actions.

Isn't it funny how I clearly showed that your post in this thread was copied and pasted from About.com and you never addressed that but instead try to dig up something on me. Did you or did you not get that information from About.com?

I've addressed what you posted about me, how about clearly addressing the above without resorting to childish attacks. You're really too old to be acting like this.

Its also really sad that it took you 2 days to come up with that nonsense from 2009!. You do this all the time when you get in an argument on here - you go on a tangent and copy and paste some pointless information - I honestly don't think you are well.

To the original poster, mods and everybody else I'm sorry this argument is even taking place on this thread - or any thread for that matter but I'm not going to let him attack me with false acusations like that without a response.

 

[Sharphooks]

Hey adanac--your original thread seems to have suffered a bit of cross-track error so I'll do my best to try and steer it back on course.....

You've probably heard the term "two-foot-itis"

It's that annoying part of buyer's remorse that sets in after you purchase a boat--- you take it out a few times, then one day get caught in some weather, maybe with your wife or girlfriend, and end up wishing you'd bought the one that was two feet longer.

I got caught over on the mainland side of Queen Charlotte Strait last July. I was off Jeanette Light in a boomer ebb that was stacking up against one of those late afternoon Q.C.S blows that you can just about set your watch to when they start

These weren't rollers coming from any specific direction--- they were going straight up and down and huge like I was in a boiling cauldron of hay stacks. I was in a 19 foot Arima and I was taking blue water over the top of my wheelhouse. Not once or twice, but wave after wave after wave. That size Arima does not have a self-bailing deck like a Grady. And I was boat camping so I had crap all over my deck that was not properly secured, including a hysterical dog who was busy running laps around her rosary beads

Anyway, it was a sobering experience. I thought at the very least I'd lose my wheelhouse windows and all my electronics--- the water got really BIG. I could also feel the handling of the boat starting to get loggy because the one pump I had in the bilge (mistake No.1) wasn't strong enough to keep up with what was coming in over my bow

I do a lot of boat camping off both side of Van Isle and I travel long distances to get to where I'm going. Although I owned that 19 foot SeaChaser since the mid 90's and spent hundreds of safe and secure hours in it with wife and kids, after that afternoon off Jeanette Light I finally made the decision to got up an additional two feet. The description I heard from the Arima general manager nailed it for me and is worth repeating:

..." That additional 2 feet will slow things down for you.... It'll make a huge difference in big water to slow things down"

That really sums it up when you're trying to decide on how big or how long to go. My maiden voyage last September with the 21 ft SeaRanger was in 4 foot seas (big chop with a 20 knt blow to spice things up). Not big in the grand scheme of open ocean boating but big enough to see that "slowing things down" is exactly what that extra length does: you're basically bridging wave period/wave length with a longer object and the result is a smoother (safer) ride.

Fishing in snottier weather was NOT what drove me to sell that 19 footer and bust a move upwards for the 21 footer. My goal was to have a bit safer more comfortable ride coming and going from the places I fish. If I wake up in the morning and listen to the Wx channel and the outlook is calling for gale, whether I have a 19 foot boat or a 25 foot isn't going to effect my decision to stay on the hook that day and wait for better conditions. I ain't going out in a gale no matter how big my boat

I agree with Poppa Swiss's comment about boat size in this regard:

..."really its too rough for a 22' then its most likely too rough for a 25' as well. You're just going to be a little more comfortable in the bigger boat, but not always..."

I heard another piece of wisdom from a guy I met last summer who spent his whole childhood on Queen Charlotte Strait buzzing around from Cape Scott to Malcom Island in a 14 foot aluminum skiff with a 20 Hp Johnson:

...."The sea isn't such a dangerous place if you're not in a hurry to get somewhere. If the weather is bad, wait it out. There's no hurry"


Some of the other poster's comments regarding just how big a boat do you want to tow on the highway and just how big a boat do you want to screw around with when you come into a marina at 6 PM on a summer evening and can't find a spot big enough to tie up also come into play when making a decision

From my experience, the 20 to 22 footer covers most of the bases on what I would want out of a boat.

good luck with what you end up getting!

 

[tyeeking]

I've fished my 22' Weldcraft (24' counting the offshore bracket which is actually a hull extension) as far as 15 miles offshore of Esperanza Inlet and have felt perfectly comfortable. With that said I like to have other boats around, and watch the weather closely making sure that I head towards shore well before the westerlies make things uncomfortable. It's not so much the size of the swells but more the spacing between them that bears watching. Short intervals on big swells get uncomfortable and dangerous in a hurry.

The boat size thing is funny. Twice I've been fishing well offshore in a pretty good size swell (big enough that in the troughs land and all of the boats around you disapear) and out of nowhere a fishery guy shows up in a dinky zodiac to do a creel census. The boat is always so small that it looks hard to simply stay in but yet there he is.