Aquaculture improving?..The Fish Farm Thread

[agentaqua]

CEO of company that recorded 2.6 million dead salmon apologizes to N.L. government
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/byrne-meeting-mowi-ceo-1.5352781

 

[cuttlefish]

All the NF photos and video clips of fish fat being pumped overboard and washing up in beaches show no seabirds or gulls feeding on the slop. Seems weird to me that they wouldn’t be all over the free meal.

 

[agentaqua]

EXCELLENT observation skills, cuttle. 1 possible explanation among others - is that the gulls can't fly - the ones that previously landed in/on/among the dead fish. Lots oil/fat coming off of those millions of dead and decaying salmon. That's the "white" stuff on the shorelines. Oil doesn't help birds fly...

 

[agentaqua]

Canadian province makes 10 changes to net pen rules; Mowi’s Aarskog apologizes
https://www.undercurrentnews.com/20...es-to-net-pen-rules-mowis-aarskog-apologizes/
Gerry Byrne goes on offensive again after meeting aquaculture CEO
http://ntv.ca/gerry-byrne-goes-on-offensive-again-after-meeting-aquaculture-ceo/

 

[Stephen Kowalski]

Looks like land farming probably not economic....best we fix the existing ones.

https://seawestnews.com/canadian-owned-land-based-fish-farm-goes-bankrupt/

 

[Stephen Kowalski]

Interesting read on farmed salmon myths...
https://www.aquaculturealliance.org/blog/farmer-seafood-health-myths-explained/

 

[Stephen Kowalski]

Protesters against salmon farms create an environmental disaster.

This is outrageous and shocking. This is worse than Nfld disaster - nothing accidental about it. Look out Canada, green peace is coming.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...-starve-and-rot-as-protests-block-chile-farms

 

[agentaqua]

A £3 billion fish farming multinational in Scotland has been officially reprimanded for animal welfare failures after more than 700,000 caged salmon died over three months.
https://theferret.scot/mowi-fish-farming-deaths/
Expensive Lawsuit or Environmental Assessment? NDP’s Dinn says Aquaculture Issues Could Be Avoided
https://vocm.com/2019/11/06/expensi...inn-says-aquaculture-issues-could-be-avoided/
CEO of company that recorded 2.6 million dead salmon apologizes to N.L. government
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/byrne-meeting-mowi-ceo-1.5352781

 

[Stephen Kowalski]

A £3 billion fish farming multinational in Scotland has been officially reprimanded for animal welfare failures after more than 700,000 caged salmon died over three months.
https://theferret.scot/mowi-fish-farming-deaths/
Expensive Lawsuit or Environmental Assessment? NDP’s Dinn says Aquaculture Issues Could Be Avoided
https://vocm.com/2019/11/06/expensi...inn-says-aquaculture-issues-could-be-avoided/
CEO of company that recorded 2.6 million dead salmon apologizes to N.L. government
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/byrne-meeting-mowi-ceo-1.5352781

So it looks like it was a warm weather event and not a disease. That's at least a positive, not that there is much to be positive about. Hadn't throught that just deeper netting would be a solution. Btw, this link is a repeat from above link, is there something we missed?

 

[agentaqua]

No - there was an ISAv outbreak that likely killed fish that they "forgot" to mention - along w the massive fish die-off. Warm water may have exasperated the stress that precipitated the ISAv outbreak - but since we AGAIN have little to no info to go on from the industry - it is speculation at this point.

The hatchery debacle is another related but separate issue. That's what the lawsuit link is about - if one reads the article.

 

[Dave]

aa, if the die off was caused by ISA, the CFIA would be involved and the company would be lobbying for compensation. I don't see that happening.

 

[Birdsnest]

Think this is in Scotland Dave. Seems agent is implying his complaints about transparency to that country yet few examples here in Canada seeing isa here is mandatory to report as is ihn.
so aa can you provide evidence in Canada where these outbreaks are not reported. I don’t think you can.

would be interesting to put some cameras in the nagmis closed Containment facility and see if similar images are found. I suspect they would be. But that’s not the narrative is it.

 

[Dave]

yeah, the agent does like to bounce between countries, lol!

 

[Stephen Kowalski]

My confusion is to see two post of the same link apologizing for the warm water event and the lack of forthcoming. OK, probably a good idea to apologize. But then I am told they are somehow covering up and that it is an ISAv outbreak that caused the mass death. I don't want to ask any questions as these seems to get everyone up in a tizzy, but it looks like it was a warm water event that probably could have been prevented. Ok. I am good with that. Am I missing something?

I also can't understand how Greenpeace funds protesters to block access to Chilean fish farms five days ago and gets a free pass. I get pissed at all of these things. I would love to see FF's succeed and to do it, I really hope they clean up their act and address shortcomings as they are found (I actually think they are really trying damn hard). But seriously, killing 800K salmon over a protest is absolutely criminal. No outrage.

 

[agentaqua]

House of Assembly put on hold as Byrne's behaviour takes centre stage
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/gerry-byrne-privilege-1.5357037
Company behind Northern Harvest Sea Farms gets new CEO
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/alf-helge-aarskog-mowi-new-ceo-1.5356504

 

[Dave]

Thanks for keeping us up to speed on eastern Canada's fish farming industry. Do you have anything new for this coast?

 

[terrin]

Thanks for keeping us up to speed on eastern Canada's fish farming industry. Do you have anything new for this coast?

Are the Fish Farms on this coast not owned by the same charactors?

 

[agentaqua]

Ya Terrin - Interesting how pundits seem to wish to insinuate that the same problems aren't inherent on this coast using the same open net-cage technology - the same industry players - and the same ineffective regulatory regime with the same denials, cover-ups and hiding of information.

And when confronted with accountability they resort to the same tactics of belligerence and personal attacks - rather than accepting that there should be accountability and oversight and that they are using the public's resources and putting the public's wild salmon at some level of risk.

I guess with blinder's on - there is nothing to be learned by the latest debacle in Newfoundland - at least for the industry pundits. That is why self-reporting is ineffective - as is having promoters and defenders be what little oversight there is for the industry.

 

[Rico]

Are the Fish Farms on this coast not owned by the same charactors?

But all managed by different laws.... aquaculture pacific has different rules and codes than Atlantic aquaculture as well as European aquaculture. People that use links and studies from other parts of the world are using then to lubricate there Agenda's.

 

[Birdsnest]

One more time agent: can you provide an example of a cover up by ff companies on the west coast? You clearly dodged my question. It’s quite clear you’re not here to have a discussion on this discussion forum. You’re all narrative and fail miserably to discuss in an open and transparent manor which is what you you’re self claim the west coast companies lack. Kinda hypocritical of you. Maybe it’s for you to buck up and answer some questions from other members on this discussion forum and show some transparency yourself.