Another "Which boat should I buy?" thread

I had a really good chat with my wife about the mission and I'm now leaning more towards a pilothouse like the Skagit Orca 24 rather than the GW Gulfstream 232. Budget schmudget.

Our dogs (German Shorthair Pointers) are with us more often than not and we will regularly have at least two other peopls with us. If there is a good thread on dogs in boats I'd appreciate a link. I don't know if we will do much overnighting but the extra seating in the pilothouse will likely come in handy.

I did read the Skagit can get a bit squirrelly with a following sea but I think that would be much more of a concern on the west side of the island than in Howe Sound. Apparently the 24 trailers well and it looks like a very capable boat.
 
Any budget regrets will quickly disappear when you’re washing the blood off your deck.😁

Speaking of budget regrets:


I have no idea what the actual market value of this boat is but it’s similar to the Skagit Orca as far as layout and amenities are concerned.
Of course you’d want a survey and sea trial and I’d be particularly curious about this boat porpoising at lower planing speeds. My Campion Explorer 682 is equipped from the factory with a similar Armstrong type bracket and I had to add wedges to the outboard mount to get enough negative trim to counteract the effect.
 
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That Port Alberni boat is a beauty. No idea on market price but i bet someone here has an idea…

There is an Osprey 26 on Seattle Craigslist right now. Look overpriced and might need a little tlc…and remove the giant bait station in the cockpit.

very similar boats to what you’re thinking…

How do people do rear facing seating on those boats? I love 2+2 configuration - two forward facing at helm and two backward facing seats for trolling…
 
Any budget regrets will quickly disappear when you’re washing the blood off your deck.😁

Speaking of budget regrets:


I have no idea what the actual market value of this boat is but it’s similar to the Skagit Orca as far as layout and amenities are concerned.
Of course you’d want a survey and sea trial and I’d be particularly curious about this boat porpoising at lower planing speeds. My Campion Explorer 682 is equipped from the factory with a similar Armstrong type bracket and I had to add wedges to the outboard mount to get enough negative trim to counteract the effect.
There was a 24' SeaSport sold for ~$75K this spring -- well maintained but inboard power, so I think they exist within your budget.
 
The SeaSport looks newer but I think the Orca is a better deal overall. Newer engines, twin engines, and I like that stern helm setup. Similar size dance floor.

All that said, I've never set foot in a boat with this configuration. I've always liked the sight lines that come from standing or sitting up high. I'm sure I'd get used to this style of seating but it is different than what I'm used to.

Thanks all for the input so far.
 
The SeaSport looks newer but I think the Orca is a better deal overall. Newer engines, twin engines, and I like that stern helm setup. Similar size dance floor.

All that said, I've never set foot in a boat with this configuration. I've always liked the sight lines that come from standing or sitting up high. I'm sure I'd get used to this style of seating but it is different than what I'm used to.

Thanks all for the input so far.
You'll love the lower center of gravity from these boats. I have a 24 Seasport, and I'm amazed at how it handles the chop. Visability from the helm is also really good. Orca is a similar style boat, but they do have more foam pumped into them, so you want to make sure they are not water logged. As you mentioned, the bow is sharp, so you will have to pay more attention in the following seas. Trailering a 2 person job, but easy enough with practice.
 
You'll love the lower center of gravity from these boats. I have a 24 Seasport, and I'm amazed at how it handles the chop. Visability from the helm is also really good. Orca is a similar style boat, but they do have more foam pumped into them, so you want to make sure they are not water logged. As you mentioned, the bow is sharp, so you will have to pay more attention in the following seas. Trailering a 2 person job, but easy enough with practice.

Not sure why trailering is a 2-person job. A 2nd person is nice but I can solo launch and retrieve my 23 Hourston - and I'm not specially talented ;)
 
Not sure why trailering is a 2-person job. A 2nd person is nice but I can solo launch and retrieve my 23 Hourston - and I'm not specially talented ;)
LOL. Don't sell yourself short. I'm sure you're quite talented. I think a lot depends on the launch. My local launch in Squamish has no dock, just a ramp and is definitely be a struggle with one, considering the high bow on my boat. I could probably get a step made on the trailer to make it easier for one. BTW - I love the Hourston's. I looked hard at a few, but settled on Seasport. Again, I love the lower certer of gravity of the Northwest style boats vs the Caraolina boats.
 
That Port Alberni boat is a beauty. No idea on market price but i bet someone here has an idea…

There is an Osprey 26 on Seattle Craigslist right now. Look overpriced and might need a little tlc…and remove the giant bait station in the cockpit.

very similar boats to what you’re thinking…

How do people do rear facing seating on those boats? I love 2+2 configuration - two forward facing at helm and two backward facing seats for trolling…
Slow fishing days we put lawn chairs on deck, but usually just one. Easier to get out of the way when the bite comes on. Guy steering at rear helm has to stand to look over the cabin to see forward anyways.
 
I love this thread!!!
This is basically my search, with the exception that I need WCVI offshore capability and prefer an open back pilothouse and larger dance floor. Followed Barkerfam's new boat journey closely. I am leaning now towards the following - used Steigercraft Miami in 23 or 25. I do like the Wellcraft Coastal with Pilothouse and the GW 232 Gulftream. I am tall and while i love that Hourston, the cabin seems a little short for me. My budget might be a bit higher for the right boat!

Best of luck finding your perfect boat (for now)....
251 baha?
 
LOL. Don't sell yourself short. I'm sure you're quite talented. I think a lot depends on the launch. My local launch in Squamish has no dock, just a ramp and is definitely be a struggle with one, considering the high bow on my boat. I could probably get a step made on the trailer to make it easier for one. BTW - I love the Hourston's. I looked hard at a few, but settled on Seasport. Again, I love the lower certer of gravity of the Northwest style boats vs the Caraolina boats.
lower centre of gravity relates to not having a wash down deck but also very high gunnels. so many things to consider.
 
walk arounds are a waste of space. closed cabins/bulkheads are no good in the summer heat and very little space on deck for everyone to share the experience when fishing. so many things to consider. lol
 
LOL. Don't sell yourself short. I'm sure you're quite talented. I think a lot depends on the launch. My local launch in Squamish has no dock, just a ramp and is definitely be a struggle with one, considering the high bow on my boat. I could probably get a step made on the trailer to make it easier for one. BTW - I love the Hourston's. I looked hard at a few, but settled on Seasport. Again, I love the lower certer of gravity of the Northwest style boats vs the Caraolina boats.
I'm Squamish too and I have no idea how anybody would launch a boat without a second person. I guess it would be possible if you left your truck on the launch and climbed into the boat but you'd be leaving your truck on the launch for a while.

If you don't mind showing off I'd love to see your boat. I'm headed hunting this weekend but am back in town as of Sunday.
 
As a boat owner for the past 20 years, and gone through 3 boats (2004 trophy 2002, 1998 pursuit 2870, 2024 Northcoast 235), i would like to chime in about your concept that a boat will somehow retain its value. No chance. Unless the whole market goes crazy like it did around covid. For used boats you will regularly put 4 figure upgrades and repairs into her. Sometimes these can be scheduled, other times they are breakdowns while fishing. For new boats, you spend it all up front. But YOU then have the abiilty to know exactly how it is maintained. Your chances of having problems on the water go way down.

Time is money - both ways! Upfront costs eat away at money that could be invested and you lose the return on that money. Breakdowns cost you money AND time. It's a tradeoff. As you can see, I just went through this and went to a new boat to avoid the time losses I was incurring from a used boat.

Overall, I think if you look at a boat as a monetary investment you will be mistaken. IF you look at it as an investment in family time, fun and dinners, then whichever boat you choose you will be happy.

Good luck!
Well said
 
I'm Squamish too and I have no idea how anybody would launch a boat without a second person. I guess it would be possible if you left your truck on the launch and climbed into the boat but you'd be leaving your truck on the launch for a while.

If you don't mind showing off I'd love to see your boat. I'm headed hunting this weekend but am back in town as of Sunday.

I never even tried launching at Squamish while we were still there. If I did it would have been with a competent person in the boat and another driving the truck. Once launched the guy in the boat could take the boat to the dock while the other parked the truck and trailer. I couldn’t see myself grinding the hull on the ramp while I attempted to crawl over the bow.

Porteau sucks as well for anything over 17’-18’. I was launching at Sunset and paying the day parking until I managed to get a spot at Lions Bay.

If you haven’t already, I’d recommend you get yourself on the list for mooring at Squamish or Lions Bay before you even get your boat because it could be 1-2 years before a spot opens up. (Your potential boat is too big for Sunset and Horseshoe Bay is infamous for bottom growth).
 
If you haven’t already, I’d recommend you get yourself on the list for mooring at Squamish or Lions Bay before you even get your boat because it could be 1-2 years before a spot opens up. (Your potential boat is too big for Sunset and Horseshoe Bay is infamous for bottom growth).

Truer words.....

As soon as we started our build , we started searching for moorage. I put down probably half a dozen non-refundable deposits.

We got in at Reed Point and I learned that there are two waitlists at some marinas. The wait list for the size of slips was a double edged sword.

We wanted a 36 foot slip hopefully covered. Once I learned that telling the Marina that I would take any type slip 36 feet or longer.

Within a month we had a 47 foot covered slip. Six months later we were able to downsize into a 36 foot slip.

Good luck in your search
 
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Search complete. I bought a Skagit Orca 24, the one that was suggested on the first page. Thanks all.

Now I have to learn to run and fish it. I'll be pouring over some of the well-worn threads here on SFBC.

Wow! I'd say you nailed your original mission and checklist, and got a really solid boat for even the toughest assignments.

Your stove-heater is the same as what I have, and we stay onboard for a couple of weeks at a time - usually in the Broughtons off Port McNeill which is an easy trailer up Island. The limitations on a trip like that are usually ice, showers, water and fuel - in that order. Kids [and non-fishing adults] will happily play in the v-berth or at the table. We used to day-trip with 4 adults and 3 kids. There's room to get out of the weather. I can also launch and fish solo.

The one addition I'd suggest based on having a similar layout is a bimini canvas off the back of the cabin - gives you a place to stand or sit out of the sun or rain, and keeps rain from blowing in the cabin door every time its open - and we fish with it open now, even in the rain. My storage canvas zips onto the back edge and keeps the boat dry whether at anchor or stored for the winter [although its under cover anyway]. That cost $2000 in 2006, and I've kept it going with minor repairs since then - it lasts much better stored under cover most of the year. The shelter was the best investment we've made in preserving the boat.

Good luck!
 

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