wanting to move down riggers in my boat and looking for what people have done

Been watching a few boats now running the rods straight out the back of the boat and I have to say this does interest me. I am going to put two Scotty flush mounts behind my riggers in order to try this method. As you say not only will it make it easier to watch both rod tips but having the lines run just behind and inside the transom also helps keeping the lines clean of grass any smaller kelp. I would think this would be something the boys out of Sooke would adapt as that can be a dirty hole to run lines in.
 
Been watching a few boats now running the rods straight out the back of the boat and I have to say this does interest me. I am going to put two Scotty flush mounts behind my riggers in order to try this method. As you say not only will it make it easier to watch both rod tips but having the lines run just behind and inside the transom also helps keeping the lines clean of grass any smaller kelp. I would think this would be something the boys out of Sooke would adapt as that can be a dirty hole to run lines in.
This is how I run my rods. Zero negatives about it. Easier to get rods out, they are aalready pointed in the right direction for playing a fish, easier to watch both tips and less weed.
 
This is how I run my rods. Zero negatives about it. Easier to get rods out, they are aalready pointed in the right direction for playing a fish, easier to watch both tips and less weed.

I have a couple flush mounts sitting just ahead of my riggers now I don’t see why that wouldn’t work as well. Be nice and handy when letting the line down the brag knob would be right beside you. I like to fold my riggers in out of the way when a nice fish is coming in and the way Scotty riggers are made with the boom off set when one would fold the rigger on the port side the boom may hit the rod holder not letting it fold in all the way. And me being a little OCD not having something in a straight line would give me the willies lol. Only thing is then I would have a rod holder sticking up closer to the middle of the gunnel. I’ll have to take a closer look I may be able to mount them behind the riggers offset to the inside enough allowing the rigger room to fold in straight.
Being OCD doesn’t help when setting up a boat lol.
 
Mine are mounted far forward which makes for easy access and you can swing the rigger boom forward along side the hull which removes a hazard when playing fish and lets you have lots of room in close beside the boat for netting, identifying and releasing fish. Just don't put the boom in real close to the hull in real bumpy seas or the ball can slam into the glass hull like a wrecking ball.

The kicker is on an outside corner, way out the back on a pod, and the main outboard is also on the pod. To handle the rare tight turn, especially in strong cross current, the kicker has a prop. guard and I only use steel on the other side to protect it from the main outboard non running prop in a bad cross current and overly sharp turn, which is rare as we are very careful. Steel no problem, but if braid ever hits the non running stainless prop. on the main, the blades cuts it off like a knife.

The previous owner (old guide boat- he knows his stuff) made extremely heavy duty aluminum U-Shaped mounts, that bolt onto both the inside and outside of the side hull and are very strong. In my view the plastic rigger swivel mount on top of it would break way before the custom U-shaped heavy Aluminum base mount and in the ten years I have had it, there has not been a problem and at times there has been a lot of force on those mounts.
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The previous owner (old guide boat- he knows his stuff) made extremely heavy duty aluminum U-Shaped mounts.

This sounds interesting as I agree with the lack of strength of some 'black plastic' parts. Any chance you could post a quick image as I don't quite understand where/how the DR mounts to it.

Thanks,
FD
 
This sounds interesting as I agree with the lack of strength of some 'black plastic' parts. Any chance you could post a quick image as I don't quite understand where/how the DR mounts to it.

Thanks,
FD

Sorry FD, I won't be able to get an image anytime soon as the boat is now sealed up in dry land storage many miles away. Perhaps in a few months when we drive out to top up the batteries for the rain water auto pump.

Basically think of it as a partial rectangular box with the bottom and two sides open that fits down over the gunnel and is about 5 inchs across (the width of the side of the hull), but a little longer along the hull. The side of the boat is drilled on both sides, reinforced inside and both sides of the squared off U mount are bolted to the glass hull.
 
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So , part of the original poster problem was beefing up the gunnel to secure his base mounts. This is a pic of my old boat.
Campions of this vintage have this lame piece of starboard as a cap. it is screwed to the gunnel with stainless screws. i got tired of the constant squeaking from the strain of fishing so deep; as well as the worry of the whole thing tearing off if i ever got caught up real bad, so i had the aluminum channel bent for me at a shop. i made up some angle bracket and tied it all together underneath. it actually turned out pretty good and solid as a rock.
 
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I have a couple flush mounts sitting just ahead of my riggers now I don’t see why that wouldn’t work as well. Be nice and handy when letting the line down the brag knob would be right beside you. I like to fold my riggers in out of the way when a nice fish is coming in and the way Scotty riggers are made with the boom off set when one would fold the rigger on the port side the boom may hit the rod holder not letting it fold in all the way. And me being a little OCD not having something in a straight line would give me the willies lol. Only thing is then I would have a rod holder sticking up closer to the middle of the gunnel. I’ll have to take a closer look I may be able to mount them behind the riggers offset to the inside enough allowing the rigger room to fold in straight.
Being OCD doesn’t help when setting up a boat lol.
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This is what Rockfish is talking about alum bent to be attached on inside and then on outer of hull you could probably lift the boat off of the bracket, and trust me there is no flex or wobbling on this set up. i use it both for rigger and my halibut fishing as you can see...
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I mounted a couple flush mounts today behind my riggers and set up some holders and rods in them just giving them a feel. I have to be honest I don’t think I’ll be using them much. Probably only when it gets dirty in the water. I hate the fact that when I am at the rear helm the rods are pretty much directly behind me and you have to turn right around to see the rod tips. Definitely prefer the rods in the riggers as the rod tips are either just in or just off my peripheral vision, way easier to keep an eye on.
 
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