Sseine opening Port Alberni

[Islandgirl]

Man your a piece of work f4all. I support the troll fishery. eman

Well said!


Yes fish for all is a piece of work, and he DISAGREES for the sake of diagreeing on EVERY POST (check history). I think he gets his jollies out of it and needs a life or to get out fishing

 

[Kildonan]

not sure about the gill net opening...but that seine opening won't affect the rec fishing.

Maybe not this year but... They Seined Alberni inlet at the opening of Nahmint bay for 5 or 6 years until that run was wiped out to the brink of extinction in the 1970's. Too bad, those fish were biggies. I'm not confident DFO knows how many fish are there to safely seine in order to sustain the sockeye run.

Not ragging on your post, just my opinion on seiners and the damage they can do in a hurry.

 

[ratherbefishing]

Wonder what the summer steelhead bycatch (i.e mortality) is in the gillnet effort this year?

 

[fish4all]

no island girl it is not that I try to diagree on every post. There are 2 sides to every story and often I find only one side is posted on this site...

 

[TheBigGuy]

no island girl it is not that I try to diagree on every post. There are 2 sides to every story and often I find only one side is posted on this site...

That is because the site is called sportfishingbc, not commercialfishingbc. No one wants the nets in the water, they are indiscriminate killers. I have no problem with commercial trollers.

 

[drhook]

It's from Dunsmuir to the Harbour. Most rec fishing is outside of Dunsmuir this time of year.

Keep in mind the gill netters out at the entrance to Alberni Inlet. There are over a hundred of them at all the choke points to Alberni Inlet. What can't get in, won't arrive at China Creek for rec fishermen.

 

[banger17]

well there banger if you consider that the sfab negotiated for 5% of the sockeye allocation so they can have priority access over the springs, then lets see 400,000 * .05 = 20,000 so based on those numbers no it is not fair, the sports sector should have been shut down by now..

Does this pi$$ some of you off... sure it does but hey those are the facts.

well fish4all... based on the 1.4 million run "projection", that would mean that your happy little 5% allotment to the sport sector would garner 70,000 fish.

seems like even at 25,000 and not much left to find, the sport sector is well short...

 

[GLG]

It's hard for me to post on some of these threads. I was one of the lucky ones to fish before the commercials moved in to take all the fish. We fished the July 1st long weekend until Sunday noon when the staging seine boats unfurled their death traps. Back then I felt this was the end of the sport fishery of sockeye for this year. Maybe I'm wrong and a new flush of fish will come in and once again the fishing will be good, but I don't think so. I’m right wing and believe in free markets and democracy but I feel that both systems have let me down. I thought that the value of the fish would swing to the recreation side because we, pond for pound, bring more to the economy then any other sector. Unfortunately DFO has tipped the scales and seen fit to unfairly subsidies the other sectors. We have come out on the short end of the stick. I let my voice be heard to the local politicians and believed that I was heard. They answered back with words that I found encouraging but now their actions seem to be contrary to what they said. I have watched run after run become shadows of there once great glory. I have tried to do something by volunteering to help my local streams come back. Why am I doing this if the fish I helped are to be caught in some commercial net and fatten someone’s bank account? I feel as many others that until there is a complete cull of top DFO management that things will not change. I have worked with many local DFO workers and have found them to be more than willing to take the time to help me out. Why has the upper management of DFO sold them and me out? Why does the general public pay the burden to subsidies the FN and Commercial sector? When will it stop, when all we have left is dead streams and fish farms?

I am saddened to see another year and another run be controlled by a greedy few.
GLG

 

[vetteman]

It's hard for me to post on some of these threads. I was one of the lucky ones to fish before the commercials moved in to take all the fish. We fished the July 1st long weekend until Sunday noon when the staging seine boats unfurled their death traps. Back then I felt this was the end of the sport fishery of sockeye for this year. Maybe I'm wrong and a new flush of fish will come in and once again the fishing will be good, but I don't think so. I’m right wing and believe in free markets and democracy but I feel that both systems have let me down. I thought that the value of the fish would swing to the recreation side because we, pond for pound, bring more to the economy then any other sector. Unfortunately DFO has tipped the scales and seen fit to unfairly subsidies the other sectors. We have come out on the short end of the stick. I let my voice be heard to the local politicians and believed that I was heard. They answered back with words that I found encouraging but now their actions seem to be contrary to what they said. I have watched run after run become shadows of there once great glory. I have tried to do something by volunteering to help my local streams come back. Why am I doing this if the fish I helped are to be caught in some commercial net and fatten someone’s bank account? I feel as many others that until there is a complete cull of top DFO management that things will not change. I have worked with many local DFO workers and have found them to be more than willing to take the time to help me out. Why has the upper management of DFO sold them and me out? Why does the general public pay the burden to subsidies the FN and Commercial sector? When will it stop, when all we have left is dead streams and fish farms?

I am saddened to see another year and another run be controlled by a greedy few.
GLG

So True! Maybe, just maybe we might get a chance to catch some Henderson Lake Sockeye in late July.
Dave

 

[Islandgirl]

So True! Maybe, just maybe we might get a chance to catch some Henderson Lake Sockeye in late July.
Dave

I would like to be that optimistic but the Gillnets are in full force down the canal, pill, swale etc. That is where the henderson fish are now I would think. I beleive in their escapement report DFO thinks enough fish are in the lakes to continue to rape and pillage..Here is the latest escapement report, and what does nature know.. DFO knows better!!

SOCKEYE FORECAST: The July 8, 2011 re-forecast total return of Somass Sockeye to the terminal fishing area is 1,400,000. The escapement goal is 513,600. The available catch for combined harvest in the terminal area is 886,400.
ESCAPEMENT: Total Somass sockeye escapement through July 6 is estimated at approximately 528,000 adults. Approximately 272,000 adults have entered Sproat Lake and approximately 256,000 have reached Great Central Lake. River conditions continue positive for sockeye migration with higher than normal flows and moderate temperatures.
BIOLOGICAL INFORMATION: Biological samples are collected from the test-boat and from commercial and First Nations fisheries in Alberni Inlet and Barkley Sound. 800 sockeye have been sampled in the test-fishery to date.
TEST-FISHING: The test-boat began operations on June 13. The purpose of the test-fishery is to estimate abundance of sockeye in Barkley Sound and in the Alberni Inlet and to collect biological specimens for assessment of age and stock composition and parasite load. The test-fishery uses a combination of acoustic soundings and seine sets to determine the abundance of sockeye. Sockeye abundance from the July 4 and 5 test-fishery is estimated at 25-30,000 for outside areas and 30-35,000 for inner Alberni Inlet.
For updated weekly test-fishing catch information please visit the following website:
http://www-ops2.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/xnet/content/salmon/testfish/default.htm

ABORIGINAL FISHING: Somass River First Nations sockeye catch to date is estimated at approximately 35,100 from a combination of two days per week gill-netting and from weekly communal drag-seine fishing at Papermill Dam.
Maa nulth First Nations have harvested an estimated 10,350 sockeye to date in 2011.
COMMERCIAL FISHING: Area D gill net vessels fished 2 p.m., July 5 to 2 p.m., July 8 this week in Barkley Sound and Alberni Inlet. Gill-net catch is estimated at 71,825 to date.
Twenty seine vessels fished from noon, Sunday July 3 to noon, Tuesday July 5. Catch for this fishery was 102,966 sockeye. Catch to date for seine is 129,730 sockeye. Average weight in the most recent seine fishery was 4.36 lbs.
RECREATIONAL FISHING: The Alberni Inlet recreational fishery has caught an estimated 37,580 sockeye to July 6, including 32,341 in ocean and 5,239 in tidal-water river fisheries.
Next Week’s Fishing Plans, as Determined by the Area 23 Harvest Committee:
Aboriginal – Discussions were concluded June 30 with the signing by both First Nations of an economic opportunity agreement. Fishing plans will be developed and implemented over the next week. Plans may include a combination of river and Inlet gill-net fishing and contract seine fishing in Alberni Inlet.
Commercial - Area D gill-net will fish starting at 2 p.m. Friday July 8 to 2 p.m. Friday July 15 in the same Barkley Sound / Alberni Inlet areas as the July 5 to 8 fishery, and from 2 p.m. to 4 a.m. daily in Alberni Inlet between Bilton Point and Polly’s Point.
Area B seine opens at 10:00 a.m. Saturday, July 9 to 10:00 a.m. Friday, July 15 from Dunsmuir Point to the clock tower in Port Alberni harbour. Twenty (21) vessels are designated to participate.
Recreational – Fishing continues at 4 per day in Alberni Inlet. Tidal portions of Somass River continue at 2 per day with no night fishing.
For more information please contact the DFO office in Port Alberni at 250 720-4440 or go on-line to:
http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/recfish/Opportunities/PN/A23&123BarkleyChinookPN.pdf for the Area 23 Recreational Chinook Fishery Notice or
http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/recfish/Opportunities/PN/A23&123BarkleyCohoPN.pdf for the Area 23 Recreational Coho Fishery Notice



WCVI Salmon Bulletin
July 6, 2011 Assessment Update
Area 23 Sockeye – Barkley Sound/Alberni Inlet

In-season reforecast (July 7): 1,400,000; Escapement Target: 513,600; TAC: 886,400

Expected Stock/Age Composition: 48% Great Central, 52% Sproat Sockeye;
25%, 62%, 7% and 6% for age 42, 52, 53 and 63 adults, respectively. Moderate Henderson
sockeye return expected (e.g. 45,000)
Escapement to July 6: 528,000 (256,000 Great Central, 272,000 Sproat Lake)
Test Fishery: Inlet Estimate 30 to 35K inside; 25 to 30K outside
Catch Estimate: ~ 285,315 adults (35,100 Somass First Nation; 10,350 MNA First Nation;
71,825 Commercial Gillnet; 129,730 Commercial Seine; 37,580 Recreational; 800 Test Fishery
(biological samples).

 

[vetteman]

I would like to be that optimistic but the Gillnets are in full force down the canal, pill, swale etc. That is where the henderson fish are now I would think. I beleive in their escapement report DFO thinks enough fish are in the lakes to continue to rape and pillage..Here is the latest escapement report, and what does nature know.. DFO knows better!!

SOCKEYE FORECAST: The July 8, 2011 re-forecast total return of Somass Sockeye to the terminal fishing area is 1,400,000. The escapement goal is 513,600. The available catch for combined harvest in the terminal area is 886,400.
ESCAPEMENT: Total Somass sockeye escapement through July 6 is estimated at approximately 528,000 adults. Approximately 272,000 adults have entered Sproat Lake and approximately 256,000 have reached Great Central Lake. River conditions continue positive for sockeye migration with higher than normal flows and moderate temperatures.
BIOLOGICAL INFORMATION: Biological samples are collected from the test-boat and from commercial and First Nations fisheries in Alberni Inlet and Barkley Sound. 800 sockeye have been sampled in the test-fishery to date.
TEST-FISHING: The test-boat began operations on June 13. The purpose of the test-fishery is to estimate abundance of sockeye in Barkley Sound and in the Alberni Inlet and to collect biological specimens for assessment of age and stock composition and parasite load. The test-fishery uses a combination of acoustic soundings and seine sets to determine the abundance of sockeye. Sockeye abundance from the July 4 and 5 test-fishery is estimated at 25-30,000 for outside areas and 30-35,000 for inner Alberni Inlet.
For updated weekly test-fishing catch information please visit the following website:
http://www-ops2.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/xnet/content/salmon/testfish/default.htm

ABORIGINAL FISHING: Somass River First Nations sockeye catch to date is estimated at approximately 35,100 from a combination of two days per week gill-netting and from weekly communal drag-seine fishing at Papermill Dam.
Maa nulth First Nations have harvested an estimated 10,350 sockeye to date in 2011.
COMMERCIAL FISHING: Area D gill net vessels fished 2 p.m., July 5 to 2 p.m., July 8 this week in Barkley Sound and Alberni Inlet. Gill-net catch is estimated at 71,825 to date.
Twenty seine vessels fished from noon, Sunday July 3 to noon, Tuesday July 5. Catch for this fishery was 102,966 sockeye. Catch to date for seine is 129,730 sockeye. Average weight in the most recent seine fishery was 4.36 lbs.
RECREATIONAL FISHING: The Alberni Inlet recreational fishery has caught an estimated 37,580 sockeye to July 6, including 32,341 in ocean and 5,239 in tidal-water river fisheries.
Next Week’s Fishing Plans, as Determined by the Area 23 Harvest Committee:
Aboriginal – Discussions were concluded June 30 with the signing by both First Nations of an economic opportunity agreement. Fishing plans will be developed and implemented over the next week. Plans may include a combination of river and Inlet gill-net fishing and contract seine fishing in Alberni Inlet.
Commercial - Area D gill-net will fish starting at 2 p.m. Friday July 8 to 2 p.m. Friday July 15 in the same Barkley Sound / Alberni Inlet areas as the July 5 to 8 fishery, and from 2 p.m. to 4 a.m. daily in Alberni Inlet between Bilton Point and Polly’s Point.
Area B seine opens at 10:00 a.m. Saturday, July 9 to 10:00 a.m. Friday, July 15 from Dunsmuir Point to the clock tower in Port Alberni harbour. Twenty (21) vessels are designated to participate.
Recreational – Fishing continues at 4 per day in Alberni Inlet. Tidal portions of Somass River continue at 2 per day with no night fishing.
For more information please contact the DFO office in Port Alberni at 250 720-4440 or go on-line to:
http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/recfish/Opportunities/PN/A23&123BarkleyChinookPN.pdf for the Area 23 Recreational Chinook Fishery Notice or
http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/recfish/Opportunities/PN/A23&123BarkleyCohoPN.pdf for the Area 23 Recreational Coho Fishery Notice



WCVI Salmon Bulletin
July 6, 2011 Assessment Update
Area 23 Sockeye – Barkley Sound/Alberni Inlet

In-season reforecast (July 7): 1,400,000; Escapement Target: 513,600; TAC: 886,400

Expected Stock/Age Composition: 48% Great Central, 52% Sproat Sockeye;
25%, 62%, 7% and 6% for age 42, 52, 53 and 63 adults, respectively. Moderate Henderson
sockeye return expected (e.g. 45,000)
Escapement to July 6: 528,000 (256,000 Great Central, 272,000 Sproat Lake)
Test Fishery: Inlet Estimate 30 to 35K inside; 25 to 30K outside
Catch Estimate: ~ 285,315 adults (35,100 Somass First Nation; 10,350 MNA First Nation;
71,825 Commercial Gillnet; 129,730 Commercial Seine; 37,580 Recreational; 800 Test Fishery
(biological samples).

Okay, now I'm getting depressed! I'm glad I got in some of the hot sockeye fishing just before the seine opening last weekend.
Dave