4 California Sea Lions and 2 Stellar Sea Lions. I blame it on DB Cooper. [8D][8D][8D] WOW [:0] its a little Harsh I agree. I would rather it be done with a little more tact but the end result is what matters. I hope the worst offenders were eliminated. The breeding age Sturgeon are well worth defending. From what I hear it takes 60 years to reach breeding age for a White Sturgeon and a Sea Lion can end it in 60 seconds. Now thats a shame. [V][V][V]
seal cull
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If Sturgeon start ripping Seals to shreds for fun I will watch for about 4-5 years and do some studies about what we might do about it in another 5-6 years as long as nobody complains. That will eat up about 100 Million dollars by the way. If the Game Commission would just take control of the situation as they have the legal right to this problem would be behind us. The Sea Lions that feast at Bonneville Dam are just as bad as the Obese Fat A$$es at the local buffet or MacDonald's. Seal's and Sea Lions that act in this manner are a scourge on society, as are those that clog the arteries of the health care system. They are too lazy to get a little exercise. I vote that all Seals and Sea lions have to get off of food stamps now. Let nature sort it out. Heck yeah we are part of nature too Eh!
If Sturgeon start ripping Seals to shreds for fun I will watch for about 4-5 years and do some studies about what we might do about it in another 5-6 years as long as nobody complains. That will eat up about 100 Million dollars by the way. If the Game Commission would just take control of the situation as they have the legal right to this problem would be behind us. The Sea Lions that feast at Bonneville Dam are just as bad as the Obese Fat A$$es at the local buffet or MacDonald's. Seal's and Sea Lions that act in this manner are a scourge on society, as are those that clog the arteries of the health care system. They are too lazy to get a little exercise. I vote that all Seals and Sea lions have to get off of food stamps now. Let nature sort it out. Heck yeah we are part of nature too Eh!
Islandboy - that's quite a link you added to :
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7379554.stm
Are you suggesting that maybe all we need is a pile of blow-up penguins, and a swim-in sushi bar?
Maybe the "Happy Feet" creators could remake the movie?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7379554.stm
Are you suggesting that maybe all we need is a pile of blow-up penguins, and a swim-in sushi bar?
Maybe the "Happy Feet" creators could remake the movie?
Islandboy - that's quite a link you added to :
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7379554.stm
Are you suggesting that maybe all we need is a pile of blow-up penguins, and a swim-in sushi bar?
Maybe the "Happy Feet" creators could remake the movie?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7379554.stm
Are you suggesting that maybe all we need is a pile of blow-up penguins, and a swim-in sushi bar?
Maybe the "Happy Feet" creators could remake the movie?
I was just adding a post to the Blue-back fishery and it brought back memories of fishing Cohos in the early season at Middlenatch Island (off Campbell River.) This Island is a bird sanctuary and loaded with all kinds of interesting wildlife. In particular, it was loaded with seals. They were everywhere.
We fished this Island very close to the shore and were always able to provide guests with great shows of seals and the occasional sea lion. We also were always able to provide excellent salmon fishing. We would take limits of salmon right in front of these dozens of seals without concern.
I might be able to recall 1 salmon lost to these beasts at Middlenatch. The seals are very much like your dog. They know when a salmon is on a hook, and know when to stay away. They also have a relatively high natural diet of non-salmonid species including herring and cod fish. Their natural consumption of salmon is actually very low.
I beleive what is happening now is that they are starved. The cod stocks are at an all time low (overfished.) The herring stocks are at an all time low (overfished.) All of their natural food resources have been devastated by yours truly. Yes, and you.
I personally have little sympothy for the seals and would be quite happy to see the river raiders killed in favor of our salmon and steelhead stocks. But, lets not blame them for our greed. They did not create this imbalance. We now loose perhaps 1 in 3 salmon to seals in Victoria. Ask any of the old timers, this was not a problem going back 20 years. Maybe its time to rebuild all of the stocks so the seals can eat.
We fished this Island very close to the shore and were always able to provide guests with great shows of seals and the occasional sea lion. We also were always able to provide excellent salmon fishing. We would take limits of salmon right in front of these dozens of seals without concern.
I might be able to recall 1 salmon lost to these beasts at Middlenatch. The seals are very much like your dog. They know when a salmon is on a hook, and know when to stay away. They also have a relatively high natural diet of non-salmonid species including herring and cod fish. Their natural consumption of salmon is actually very low.
I beleive what is happening now is that they are starved. The cod stocks are at an all time low (overfished.) The herring stocks are at an all time low (overfished.) All of their natural food resources have been devastated by yours truly. Yes, and you.
I personally have little sympothy for the seals and would be quite happy to see the river raiders killed in favor of our salmon and steelhead stocks. But, lets not blame them for our greed. They did not create this imbalance. We now loose perhaps 1 in 3 salmon to seals in Victoria. Ask any of the old timers, this was not a problem going back 20 years. Maybe its time to rebuild all of the stocks so the seals can eat.
Deewar25
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Generally agreed Nimo...but you still forgot to mention the population of the transient whales - their only real natural predator around here. Rebuild the food stocks and perhaps a few 100 whales so the hierarchy of nature can do its thing again!
From the sounds of things, seal population is now miles above historic levels (well 50-100 year levels) - I have very little sympathy for them and their 'lack' of food seeing that each one or each sea lion is eating 2500-4000 lbs of salmon a year.
From the sounds of things, seal population is now miles above historic levels (well 50-100 year levels) - I have very little sympathy for them and their 'lack' of food seeing that each one or each sea lion is eating 2500-4000 lbs of salmon a year.
Agreed Deewar. The whales are in decline and need to be given priority - this is likely also linked to our overfishing and pollution.
Given the numbers quoted here are correct and seal populations are 2 - 4 X historic levels I would sign a petition to cull at least half of them. And I like the polar bear idea.
Given the numbers quoted here are correct and seal populations are 2 - 4 X historic levels I would sign a petition to cull at least half of them. And I like the polar bear idea.
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