Rigging new spoons

[GDW]

Perfect thread for me as I was just going to start one about split rings.

I have never had this happen before but this year alone I've had 4... that 's right FOUR... salmon un button my split ring and get away with either the hook and/or the hook and split ring.

Twice was at the boat during the release - no big deal but twice was during the fight and both on fish I wanted to bonk! Anything I can do besides checking/replacing the split rings? I'm running trebles I don't think anyone makes an open eye treble to crimp on (or do they?). So that means when replacing hooks I have to open the split ring and as I'm using fairly big trebles the split rings got to open a lot to get the old hook off and new hook on.

Any other product I can use in place of a split ring? Anything I can do to prevent this from happening? Thanks...

(Don't bother with the singles vs trebles debate my lure works best with a treble the hook enhances the action and the fishies love it)

 

[Geno]

A little late to the thread but on all my coyote spoons I just cut off the stock hooks and replace with either 3/0, 4/0 or 5/0 gami siwash hooks depending on the size. I used to add a swivel between the spoon and hook but didn't find much difference...no more swivel. On one trip I did put the hook upside down on the spoon and still had decent results so not sure how much of a difference that makes either.

 

[rovingfisherman]

Hey GDW, do you use trebles on Coho Killers to? I like you're thinkin I'm gonna give the trebles a try. Not sure why you would have an issue with your rings opening up, seems strange? As far as when you have to replace hooks and rings, shimano makes split ring pliers that may make the task a little quicker and easier.

 

[GDW]

Haven't tried em on coho killers it might slow them down.

 

[rovingfisherman]

Mustad 35517 open eye trebles

 

[capt hook]

On a hootchie , swivel on flasher and on hootchie.... make sure enough beads so hook swings freely . sometimes u may need to take scissor or knive and cut the hootchy side a 1/4 inch so the hook is not pinched. hook must hang and move freely.
the swivel gives the hook a swinging action which in turn gives action to the hootchie.
On a spoon no swivel on hook and hook should follow the shape of the spoon and will 99.9%of time be pointed upwards ,
the front of the spoon has a swivel.

 

[Seafever]

Thanks for the Mustad reference....

I think what his problem is:- he uses trebles on a split ring. The trebles have a thick metal eye. He also uses heavyduty split rings. So when he puts the treble on the split ring it tends to deform the split ring and it doesn't go back to it's factory temper thereby making it a bit weaker in terms of it's original shape. If there is any gap around the split ring whatsoever the hook has a chance to start" travelling and unravelling".

Once the split ring is "sprung" from being forced to accept a hook, that 's the end of the split ring's usefulness.