Public Fishery Alliance letter to Minister Murray
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cohochinook
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For those who don't have Facebook here's the link from the Public Fishery Alliance website:
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Letter to Minister Murray - Re: Rejection of Chinook Retention Proposals - Public Fishery Alliance
The Honourable Joyce Murray,Minister of Fisheries, Oceans and the Canadian Coast GuardMinister’s Office,200 Kent Street,Station 15N100Ottawa, ONK1A 0E6 Re: Rejection of Chinook Retention Proposals Dear Minister Murray, The Public Fishery Alliance (PFA) is a broad–based non-profit society...
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mac_davy
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this is a great first step, but now they need to call these people out for being associated with GREENPAC and EXTINCTION REBELLION
i can provide concrete links of GREENPAC to EXTINCTION REBELLION
GREENPAC is just he Political Arm
EXTINCITON REBELLION are the street thugs
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"Climate change is an “existential crisis,” Murray said, arguing that the Liberal plan was the only credible, science-aligned platform that was fully-costed by climate experts. The plan includes a 40 to 45 per cent greenhouse gas reduction within nine years, and a promise to achieve net zero by 2050. Murray said she recognizes climate is a key concern for many students. " Joyce Murray
SFI understand part of her net zero carbon plan, is your trucks and your boat no longer use fuel, this is the real reason we are being shut down. she has zero intrest in managing a resource, she wants your boats and vehicles gone.
donnie d
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For those who don't have Facebook here's the link from the Public Fishery Alliance website:
Letter to Minister Murray - Re: Rejection of Chinook Retention Proposals - Public Fishery Alliance
The Honourable Joyce Murray,Minister of Fisheries, Oceans and the Canadian Coast GuardMinister’s Office,200 Kent Street,Station 15N100Ottawa, ONK1A 0E6 Re: Rejection of Chinook Retention Proposals Dear Minister Murray, The Public Fishery Alliance (PFA) is a broad–based non-profit society...
From an MP in the know, this woman is green as grass, and doesn’t even have a desire to understand the issues she’s tasked with managing. So, her default mandate is to “leave everything in the water.” Scary stuff. I just hope the SFAB keeps at it and eventually breaks through when someone is given the big Department job that has the “give a **** dial” turned up a couple notches.
mac_davy
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i suggest everyone with an interest register, Murray can have her religion, but she has a job to do, and if she cant or wont listen to the scientific experts, and manage a resource, then she need to be removed, the ministers work for us, period end of story, the voting public, not her zealots.
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ship happens
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this is a great first step, but now they need to call these people out for being associated with GREENPAC and EXTINCTION REBELLION
i can provide concrete links of GREENPAC to EXTINCTION REBELLION
GREENPAC is just he Political Arm
EXTINCITON REBELLION are the street thugs
Extinction Rebellion | Join The Fight Against Climate and Ecological Collapse
Life as we know it is on the brink of collapse. Our governments have failed to protect us. Help us to build a powerful movement to change the course we are on.GreenPAC | Building Environmental Leadership in Politics
GreenPAC is a non-partisan, non-profit. Our vision is for the health of the planet to be a driving force in Canadian politics, and that means we need to elect officials who champion the environment.
"Climate change is an “existential crisis,” Murray said, arguing that the Liberal plan was the only credible, science-aligned platform that was fully-costed by climate experts. The plan includes a 40 to 45 per cent greenhouse gas reduction within nine years, and a promise to achieve net zero by 2050. Murray said she recognizes climate is a key concern for many students. " Joyce Murray
SFI understand part of her net zero carbon plan, is your trucks and your boat no longer use fuel, this is the real reason we are being shut down. she has zero intrest in managing a resource, she wants your boats and vehicles gone.
What i don't get is Canada is what.. less than 1 percent of the worlds carbon and "greenhouse effect'? Meanwhile China remains same as before?
mac_davy
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you trying to argue rational with extremist, these people are involved in a complex religion that goes beyond carbon, they want open borders, world equity, the removal of this imagined patriarchy, all carbon fuels gone, and capitalism replaced with various forms of socialisms, they have a convoluted number of issues and carbon is just one of them, the important thing is we need these people out of our government, they are implementing catastrophic changes on our behalf on junk science and even more junk world views .
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For those of you somewhat new to posting here, the political conversation is to revolve around fishery issues only. We do not allow political discussion of a general nature and do not allow threads to devolve into climate change and other politically charged topics, as they end up in an entrenched stance on either side of the debate that solves nothing. Please keep these threads on topic.
mac_davy
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agreed, however the powers at the DFO and Ministry are using political reason to shut the fishing opportunities down, unless we discuss this politics how do we make counter arguments to them. We can agree that SFI used science and reasoning for four years and were never met with good faith.
Murray said " my goal as minister is to leave as many fish in the ocean as possible and to grow as much ocean vegetation as possible to combat climate change — and that harvesters would have to accept a sacrifice as part of climate change efforts. "
Im asking the admin with respect, but when a minister says something like this, the message is clear, that no fair resolution will be considered. She is mandating to us her personal cause on us, and we just have to make this sacrifice regardless of counter science, because this her belief.
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I never said you can't discuss the politics around the fishery issues...that is what this section is for. What I am saying, is don't start wandering into other areas of the political spectrum that derail the thread and take it completely off topic. You will note that a couple of previous posts talked lots about other hot topics and did not reference fisheries at all. This is what we want to avoid in this forum.
Thanks.
ship happens
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This is a hot topic. About as hot as it gets for me. Since my livelihood depends on our fishery.
This thread is about our minister. Our appointed minister who is basically acting illegally. Her job is to make decisions s and manage a fishery. Not shut it down for personal or religious agenda.
This thread is about our minister. Our appointed minister who is basically acting illegally. Her job is to make decisions s and manage a fishery. Not shut it down for personal or religious agenda.
mac_davy
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agreed, her job is not sea weed gardener, or climate change monitor on behalf of the GreenPac and Extinction Rebellion and other foreign funded groups, she is to manage our resource on behalf of the taxpayers and citizens of this country. when was the last time you were worried about the seaweed being anywhere in even close to being an issue, or there effect on the climate. The two biggest factors in climate change have been, the proximity of the continents to each other and global volcanism, this is why i reject these alarmist, have no doubt that human carbon emission can effect climate, much more locally than globally btw, but the three biggest carbon producer by a huge amount are China, the USA and India, the best way to fight increased carbon is actually to plant more forests, not worry about sea weeds or shutter a public fishery.
ship happens
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I think I read her bio and her and her husband were tree planters.
mac_davy
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all of us anglers are conservationists, we are 100% behind reforestation and re stocking etc, we are not for wholesale destruction of industries, because in her words " we just have to accept this sacrifice for climate change " this is the level of narcissism and arrogance we are dealing with
ship happens
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There has to be some law that aligns some sort of code of conduct, in political positions of government. No? How is it legal to have an environmentalist activist as manager for a huge natural resource that doesn't agree with the harvesting of living creatures? Since when is the fisheries ministers job ever been to leave as many fish in the ocean as possible without managing the ******* thing? Since when is it her job to dictate our resource based on personal opinions on climate change? So its legal to ignore the science that we paid for and make choices based on personal belief? Tell me someone how the **** is that legal?
mac_davy
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just a snippet of what I've dug up on her, she was being funded by foreign NGO's to intentionally halt Canadian energy projects if elected, she has been heavily backed by David Suzuki, who has spoken at many extinction rebellion events, there is a long trail of her agenda, while i cant place her with a radical group yet, I can place her collogues at GREENPAC with some radical animal rights movements. The foreign funding, I'm not sure if this doesn't constitute breach of ethics or not
the legality, I believe they understand the science supports the public fisheries, this is why they are using the SKW to hide their agenda, the ambiguous nature of the state of the SKW is being used intentionally, they can always say "well we understand there is room for a selective marked hatchery catch, but we are not sure the whales are doing well so we will just need to proceed on the side of caution, until we have more data " this is where they just move the goal posts every year.
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