New Licensing Pleasure-Craft Headache

[the fog ducker]

Fellas

what a joke , woke up this morning , went to Services Canada to register a boat , Was informed that they no longer
offer this service in BC , after jumping through several hoops , TC informed me that , this is only done back East now , New Brunswick i believe , first filling out the app form ,available online or at a Service Canada office , then mailing it to them , 3 - 4weeks later , maybe even longer they say , i will receive my paper work and license in the mail...

my last boat , i went into Services Canada , had to wait over an hour , EI is also a part of this office , had to wait until the unemployed were helped first , what a disaster joke it was then , even worse now ??

Anyone went through this yet , anyway around it ? if ya buy a boat in say June , you may not be getting ur paper work till half way through the summer , they said it could take longer as we get into prime boating season..

they said it is ILLEGAL to run a un registered boat , hefty fine , possible impound....

Unreal

FD

 

[Reel Knotty]

Recently got mine done. Received license about 2 weeks after I mailed the paperwork. I was surprised that they did not change the E (ontario) number to a BC one. But to hell with it. I have my paperwork and under my current address. They can't nail me if it's their screw up.

ps FD if you didn't get the form, it's online right here>>>>>http://www.tc.gc.ca/wwwdocs/Forms/84-0172E_1007-04_E.pdf

 

[Duffer]

Yeh FD theres a thread talking about this discussion not long ago sounds like a new pain in the @#%.

 

[the fog ducker]

if i understood the HEAVILLYY accented gentlemen correctly on the other end of da phone ,
i THINK he said ,wait times are now longer than in the past,and could get worse because of the better weather to come , and over worked , and understaffed
department....
just an update to any that are shopping a new rig..

will mail in today , keep ya all posted

fd

 

[Dr Lunk]

so who would check for this ? transport canada ? DFO ? RCMP ?

I guess I should do it... dont know who the previous owner of my boat is though.

do people actually get asked for this if they are stopped by any of the above ?

 

[Aces]

so who would check for this ? transport canada ? DFO ? RCMP ?

I guess I should do it... dont know who the previous owner of my boat is though.

do people actually get asked for this if they are stopped by any of the above ?

The RCMP will do it

 

[Dr Lunk]

do you need to know the previous owner ? my boat already has numbers on the side ? am I going to have problems because it has been registered by someone else (probably expired)

 

[scott craven]

Yes, it's law now that you have your boat licensed.
RCMP can and will check for it.
fines are applicable without it.

 

[Reel Knotty]

so who would check for this ? transport canada ? DFO ? RCMP ?

I guess I should do it... dont know who the previous owner of my boat is though.

do people actually get asked for this if they are stopped by any of the above ?

You can sign a sworn oath that you are the legal owner of the boat but can't provide a bill of sale or have info on previous owner. It's on the Service Canada site, but I can't get you a link as the site appears to be down.

 

[Dr Lunk]

Thanks RN... will look into it

 

[Reel Knotty]

Thanks RN... will look into it

Found it!
http://www.tc.gc.ca/media/documents/marinesafety/declaration-eng.pdf

in addition to................
http://www.tc.gc.ca/wwwdocs/Forms/84-0172E_1007-04_E.pdf

Plus a photocopy of your ID, and you should be set.

 

[ratherbefishing]

I mailed my completed form to transfer a boat to my name on Tuesday. Will post as soon as it arrives but the message I was given when I called was to except 4-6 weeks. When I asked what I should do in the interim should I be inspected they had no answer...great.

 

[the fog ducker]

Last time i got pulled over , on the water , he asked for a copy of the license for that vessel i was on ,
You must have it with you at all times he said , laminate a copy , leave it on board...

FD

 

[Reel Knotty]

I mailed my completed form to transfer a boat to my name on Tuesday. Will post as soon as it arrives but the message I was given when I called was to except 4-6 weeks. When I asked what I should do in the interim should I be inspected they had no answer...great.

You have 90 days grace from date of purchase. If you have a dated bill of sale, you should be ok.

Quote from Sevice Canada:
"•Owners of licensed pleasure craft now have up to 90 days from the date of purchase to transfer a pleasure craft licence, during which time you may continue to operate your pleasure craft with the existing licence and a copy of the transfer documents on board."

Link to page http://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/marinesafety/debs-obs-paperwork-paperwork_boat_licence-1898.htm

 

[Charter Tofino]

Not to hijack but FD whats the new tub? Always enjoy pics of new rigs.

 

[the fog ducker]

Haha
nah , not a new one for me personally , apparently I'm the one with too much time on my hands ,
just lending my know how out... buds p'd now... my fault of course...

: )

Not to hijack but FD whats the new tub? Always enjoy pics of new rigs.

 

[cletus]

What about a new boat,I just sent the paperwork away today.So i can't use it till i receive the license.That's bull$hit,i'm gonna call transport canada.

You have 90 days grace from date of purchase. If you have a dated bill of sale, you should be ok.

Quote from Sevice Canada:
"•Owners of licensed pleasure craft now have up to 90 days from the date of purchase to transfer a pleasure craft licence, during which time you may continue to operate your pleasure craft with the existing licence and a copy of the transfer documents on board."

Link to page http://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/marinesafety/debs-obs-paperwork-paperwork_boat_licence-1898.htm

 

[sammyslabber]

Hate to say I to am waiting for a duplicate copy of my boat Lic.lost I guess! Funny thing is I asked Transport Canada guy @ the boat show in Victoria about the problem he said here fill out this form & send it in but it will take some time to process it he said 'don't worry about it show the cops the info. broch. & tell them your waiting for a replacement".
you think they would be able to figure out who the boat was reg. to eg:14k......& proper I.D
What about boat names does it matter if there is the same name on diff. boats even tho you have redg.your boat with that name?

 

[Reel Knotty]

What about a new boat,I just sent the paperwork away today.So i can't use it till i receive the license.That's bull$hit,i'm gonna call transport canada.

Ya, that one is touchy, I read some of the "fine print" and came up with this:

......................
Exceptions
Licencing
102. A pleasure craft may be operated without a licence until the day on which the owner of the pleasure craft receives the licence, up to a maximum of 90 days from the day of the initial transfer of ownership to an end user, if
(a) the acknowledgement of receipt of the application for the licence by the Minister is carried on board; and
(b) the file number of the acknowledgement is marked on the pleasure craft in the form and manner specified by the Minister.

.........................

From this web page

http://laws.justice.gc.ca/eng/SOR-2010-91/page-8.html#codese:102

NOTICE it's a completely different department of the government than all the other info??? One hand has no idea what the other is doing! Freakin feds at their best!!

 

[the fog ducker]

thx knot's , good info

i will call them back in the morning , i read sum of ur concerns , I'll see if i can get someone with sum skill on the phone back east ,supervisor perhaps , my dude sounded limited.

If any of ya have questions , I will be calling around 10am ( ish ) post away

i can ask , see if i can make some sense of this , the 90 day grace period sounds good, our situation , kinda sucks , bill o sale is almost 2 months now , Florida boat ,had to waite for our shipper ,

by the way - u-Ship still rox,,,for those lookin for shipping a distance...

we were flexible on our dates for a better deal , saved $1200 on a return delivery...yada... ate up some of our 90 im thinkin

see if i can find the old posts on this too

later


fd