Is anyone using RoadActive Suspension (RAS)?

Tomfoolery

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I am curious if anyone here uses RAS for their tow rigs. I have also been looking at airbags, SumoSprings and Timbren suspension. It seems people really like the RAS for the enhanced ride it gives empty and the enhanced towing performance. The benefit over airbags is it is essentially maintenance free. I think I would do the Sumo's over the Timbrens if I went that way but leaning toward the RAS.
 
I've always added air bags. What is this maintenance that you reference? I've done zero maintenance to them.
Well, more that you have an opportunity for leaks and failures with bags that you don't have with other options. Not to say that it is common and probably virtually worry free with better quality bags like those of Firestone. Set and forget with polymer shocks or springs does have appeal, albeit with less adjustability for load.
 
Must be the installer 🤣 . I've had bags on the past three trucks and no leaks. I've had them on for 5+ years on the current truck. No leaks.

Had my Firestone airbags since 2006 on my truck, zero issues to date.
1 air line service both bags, if ever it leaked or bag blew, both will deflate.
If they are good enough for 99.999% of commercial tractors/trailers run them, that tells me something.
 
I have factory air suspension on my old Lexus GX470 (2004). Original bags were replaced preventatively in 2023, and I am actually sitting on a replacement compressor and a set of leveling sensors that are going in this weekend.

All over the internet people complain that the system is unreliable. That's just not the case. Any mechanical system that can give 19-20 trouble free years of operation with zero maintenance is pretty good in my books. Use good quality part and check your fittings (soap: no bubbles, no troubles). If the system is self regulating, it will typically cycle the compressor in the morning when the air inside the air spring is cold. They may also loose a tiny bit of air from the fittings. Keeper bags are a little more basic, but would be really valuable when towing with a mid size SUV/pickup just to level the tow vehicle - combine with something like a milwaukee inflator pump, and you can really dial in the ride height fast and easy.

I really like mine - there are a lot of mid sized SUVs that seem to be designed for zero additional load and have the nastiest squat. Ever see a new Nissan pathfinder tow a trailer or fully loaded with passengers/gear - looks awful. My GX tows dead level, and I can adjust the height a few inches in either direction which is really useful to prevent bottoming out the trailer when you are dealing with low speed maneuvering and abrupt grade transitions.
 
I have factory air suspension on my old Lexus GX470 (2004). Original bags were replaced preventatively in 2023, and I am actually sitting on a replacement compressor and a set of leveling sensors that are going in this weekend.

All over the internet people complain that the system is unreliable. That's just not the case. Any mechanical system that can give 19-20 trouble free years of operation with zero maintenance is pretty good in my books. Use good quality part and check your fittings (soap: no bubbles, no troubles). If the system is self regulating, it will typically cycle the compressor in the morning when the air inside the air spring is cold. They may also loose a tiny bit of air from the fittings. Keeper bags are a little more basic, but would be really valuable when towing with a mid size SUV/pickup just to level the tow vehicle - combine with something like a milwaukee inflator pump, and you can really dial in the ride height fast and easy.

I really like mine - there are a lot of mid sized SUVs that seem to be designed for zero additional load and have the nastiest squat. Ever see a new Nissan pathfinder tow a trailer or fully loaded with passengers/gear - looks awful. My GX tows dead level, and I can adjust the height a few inches in either direction which is really useful to prevent bottoming out the trailer when you are dealing with low speed maneuvering and abrupt grade transitions.
Yeah, bags are probably not a huge issue if you go with quality. People seem to really like the RAS because they claim the ride is better when you are empty. The adjustability is not as good as bags though as once you have the spring tension set it is not something you can readjust under load.
 
Yeah, bags are probably not a huge issue if you go with quality. People seem to really like the RAS because they claim the ride is better when you are empty. The adjustability is not as good as bags though as once you have the spring tension set it is not something you can readjust under load.
I was looking at the RAS website and I just can't see these lasting long term. I used to have a sports car, and guys were forever adding aftermarket coil overs - sure, great for the track (maybe) - but if you are putting 30,000km on your vehicle every year in all kinds of weather virtually every coilover system turns into a rusty mess - none of them are built to an OEM spec intended to last for 200,000km. Looking at pics of the RAS system, I kept wondering what those would look like in 5 years...
 
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I was looking at the RAS website and I just can't see these lasting long term. I used to have a sports car, and guys were forever adding aftermarket coil overs - sure, great for the track (maybe) - but if you are putting 30,000km on your vehicle every year in all kinds of weather virtually every coilover system turns into a rust mess. Looking at pics of the RAS system, I kept wondering what those would look like in 5 years...
They would for sure get a good coat of fluid film every few years which should make them last a long time. But yeah, in the rust belt with no protection I can see burning through them in four or five years.
 
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