interesting from the Halibut news
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gunnerlove
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My take on it is that all the current "conservation" measures are poorly thought out and only benefit commercial fishers as sport fishers are forced to catch and release fish so the commercial fishers can catch and retain them later.
Would this make sense if I was stupid?
Would this make sense if I was stupid?
fogged in
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What releasing big halibut does is it stops the Sport, Sport Fishing Guides and Lodges from TARGETENG the big ones.
By doing this it allows the halibut sport fishery a longer season for those of us who like to fish Hali after Aug. 30.
The model DFO use on estimating the Sport Catch, like it or not, would have the Sport Season closed around the end of August, without the large halibut release program.
I for one find the big halibut often wormy and not as tasty as the 30 - 40 pounders.
An in water photo of a 100 plus hali suits me just fine.
What releasing big halibut does is it stops the Sport, Sport Fishing Guides and Lodges from TARGETENG the big ones.
By doing this it allows the halibut sport fishery a longer season for those of us who like to fish Hali after Aug. 30.
The model DFO use on estimating the Sport Catch, like it or not, would have the Sport Season closed around the end of August, without the large halibut release program.
I for one find the big halibut often wormy and not as tasty as the 30 - 40 pounders.
An in water photo of a 100 plus hali suits me just fine.
Aces
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This is exactly the whole point of these measures. I have some guests booked for Halibut fishing in September because they can't get away from their small businesses before that.
UkeeDreamin
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"These measures", meaning the max size and annual limit, both of which have been proven effective in reducing total harvest by the rec sector (unless they start factoring in a ridiculous release mortality for oversized fish, which I don't believe would apply to properly handled sport caught fish!). Multiple years of data from the over/under slot size reg, prior to the max size and annual quota being brought in, show it has no effect on harvest rate whatsoever. Past time to end that "experiment" and continue tweaking the effective regs to balance the season length against each year's quota allotment.
Cheers!
Ukee
Cheers!
Ukee
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Aces
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Shouldn't you be in Mexico by then
No way buddy. I love my September fishing!
Aces
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It goes against the commercial quota. Contrary to popular belief very few lodges and guides bought into this program and the rest of us are trying to get them to see the error of their ways as it undermines all of us. I am sure the buyers are listed on DFO website. Only 1 guide out of over 26 in Tofino bought 500 lbs worth and used it on only 1 fish. He said he won't do it again after we talked to him about it.
UkeeDreamin
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DFO Report at the 2016 IPHC meetings reported only 8653 lbs commercial quota purchased by lodges/guides and only 5082 lbs reported harvested in 2015. So really not significant numbers or indicative that very many outfits are participating.
Derby, I hope to hell that horse is the over/under slot "experiment" as I fully agree, time to put it out of its misery!! LOL
Cheers!
Ukee
Derby, I hope to hell that horse is the over/under slot "experiment" as I fully agree, time to put it out of its misery!! LOL
Cheers!
Ukee
Thats not totally true. Look at the numbers from before the slot when we could kill one any size
I live down the street from a commercial long liner and consider him a good buddy. He laughs his butt off at us fighting over the scraps with useless regulations. we have done ZERO to get more quota, and we will never ever get more as long as 1. we accept these BS regs, and more importantly kee going under our allocated amount and especially by such a substantial margin. Alsaka fisherman are BUYING back quota from the commercial guys. What a concept...
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Jencourt
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Buying quota to better our access is the most foolish and short sighted idea made to date regarding halibut allocation.......................................... If you can't see that,I would suggest you take a good look at the crap storm that comes from buying into things like The ITQ. If we buy quota we are taking part in the very system that brought us the two teared set of rules that comes with the experimental license BS. I will never support buying quota nor will I stop doing all and anything I can to stop this foolishness from ever growing legs.
Jencourt
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Back to the topic.
Quote From the article
"Certainly a 400-pound fish will produce a lot more eggs than a 40-pound fish, because it's ten times heavier," Stewart says. "But it won't necessarily produce more eggs than ten 40-pound fish."
Caught my attention.
Quote From the article
"Certainly a 400-pound fish will produce a lot more eggs than a 40-pound fish, because it's ten times heavier," Stewart says. "But it won't necessarily produce more eggs than ten 40-pound fish."
Caught my attention.
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fogged in
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are we missing the point here.....the bigger hali tend to be females, the 40 pounders males
this debate is going nowhere...over and out
Jencourt
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Not sure what that was about. I am definitely not missing the point!!!!!!!! I am very aware of why we are letting the bigger fish go.
In a time like today wen we are forced to endorse slots and size limits to maintain our full season, i sure as heck hope statements like that coming from the IPHC are getting a look. To be fair I know darn well they do get considered.
This thread was about an article that I found interesting.
The quote was one of the things that stood out to me.
For what it is worth every 100lb female halibut was in the 40's at some point. Last year we got a 35,42,and a 22 one day. two of the three had eggs. But yes you are correct the large fish are usually females.
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Sculpin
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5082 lbs. Too much!!!! This number is Bull *****. Nobody should EVER buy quota off the commercial sector. It is what they want. ITQ is the worst thing for all fisheries like Jen Court has posted in the past.
I am glad you acknowledge that guiding is a commercial enity...Maybe we should start treating it as such?
p.s I would never charter in a million years. we both know that. You are just trying to stir the pot.
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