One hali per day or two guys? I really don't see a problem with one per, but let's hear it.
Halibut limits, one or two?
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I don't mind commenting on the subject and I'm sure you'll here from others.
It really comes down to who you are and if yo are a recreational angler, charter operator, or lodge owner, etc.
Every user group will have a different opinion on this but here's mine and only mine.
Since this s not a debate on the 88-12 issue...as it stands now the 1 per day is what we are left with.
I don't personally have an issue with 1 a day at this point because I rarely have a single day charter as most of my clients come for more than 1 day...so in my case...possesion limit will always mean more.
Honestly, if we ever get access to more quota...I would love to see it back to 2 per day and even a 2 possession/possible 3 possesion.
It adds a little more to the single day charters if it goes back to that.
Anyhow...it's more important at this point to set an annual limit.
Just my 2 cents....
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It really comes down to who you are and if yo are a recreational angler, charter operator, or lodge owner, etc.
Every user group will have a different opinion on this but here's mine and only mine.
Since this s not a debate on the 88-12 issue...as it stands now the 1 per day is what we are left with.
I don't personally have an issue with 1 a day at this point because I rarely have a single day charter as most of my clients come for more than 1 day...so in my case...possesion limit will always mean more.
Honestly, if we ever get access to more quota...I would love to see it back to 2 per day and even a 2 possession/possible 3 possesion.
It adds a little more to the single day charters if it goes back to that.
Anyhow...it's more important at this point to set an annual limit.
Just my 2 cents....
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http://ca.video.yahoo.com/watch/4726988?fr=yvmtf
wolf
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Yes I agree with you rich WOULD love to see an annual limit we already have it for spring salmon,lingcod,prawns,clams,oysters the list goes on and on I just dont understand why they dont???
And anyone on here who doesnt want one is just plain greedy.
BUT in saying that it should be a limit which is acceptable say 10 or 15 a year.
Thats one way of cutting the qouta down as someguides give away there halibut(not me) they will think twice knowing that they are not having halibut in there frezzer if they choose to give it away
Wolf
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And anyone on here who doesnt want one is just plain greedy.
BUT in saying that it should be a limit which is acceptable say 10 or 15 a year.
Thats one way of cutting the qouta down as someguides give away there halibut(not me) they will think twice knowing that they are not having halibut in there frezzer if they choose to give it away
Wolf
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Barnacle Bill
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2 per day, 3 in possession! Costs too much money for gas for most people on the ECVI to fish for Halis. Not everyone lives on the WCVI! Tight lines,..........BB
Annual possesion limit would be a great start. 15 pieces, hell, a 60 pounder caught in March I still have into November. One per day, but two or three possesion? Slow things down a little bit maybe.
I'd say a Hali stamp to go to an account to buy quota if need be, but seems the Hali powers that be don't like to shake loose with the cash once they get it from us.
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I'd say a Hali stamp to go to an account to buy quota if need be, but seems the Hali powers that be don't like to shake loose with the cash once they get it from us.
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Little Hawk
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Sorry LC if my blabbing led to the digression of the Hali/Reports thread. Wasn't my intention.
Great question!
Personally i like one per day and a seasonal limit if only people would adhere to it is a good idea. In the end, how many do i need for the freezer per year, 3 - 5? Living in Victoria with a boat and being less than an hour from driveway to the fishing grounds definitely gives me an advantage. Maybe a special stamp for extra $$, good for only one trip each could be used to allow an additional possession limit to make an annual guided trip worth while and still keeps the daily limit down so us locals dont rape and pilage? Just a thought, as one per day is tough for some people to swallow when they only make one or two trips a year. I think we have to keep in mind that the Guides do not take fish but they just facilate people that have the same right to the resource we all do.
This fishery is incredible down here and i would hate to see it be overfished, with the growth of the city, the exposure from derbys and the interent the amount of people fishing halibut compared to 10 years ago has exploded. Its a good source of revenue for the guides and community and a lot of fun for me and i hope it stays good for a long time.
Is it just me or are the average size of the halibuts caught over the years appear to be getting smaller and smaller?
Personally i like one per day and a seasonal limit if only people would adhere to it is a good idea. In the end, how many do i need for the freezer per year, 3 - 5? Living in Victoria with a boat and being less than an hour from driveway to the fishing grounds definitely gives me an advantage. Maybe a special stamp for extra $$, good for only one trip each could be used to allow an additional possession limit to make an annual guided trip worth while and still keeps the daily limit down so us locals dont rape and pilage? Just a thought, as one per day is tough for some people to swallow when they only make one or two trips a year. I think we have to keep in mind that the Guides do not take fish but they just facilate people that have the same right to the resource we all do.
This fishery is incredible down here and i would hate to see it be overfished, with the growth of the city, the exposure from derbys and the interent the amount of people fishing halibut compared to 10 years ago has exploded. Its a good source of revenue for the guides and community and a lot of fun for me and i hope it stays good for a long time.
Is it just me or are the average size of the halibuts caught over the years appear to be getting smaller and smaller?
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salmon9
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Hali stamp with total annual limit of 5, and 1 per day 2 day possession in fisheries areas where numbers are low, and 2 per day 2 day possession for areas where numbers are easily sustainable.
Annual limit of 5 may be a hard sell. I'd almost set the bar at 15. Otherwise, I think we may loose a lot of chickens to high-grading, after watching how those things beat the hell out of themselves when brought into the boat, I don't know how may of them would survive a release. A hali stamp would be great, but the salmon stamps only return one dollar out of every six we spend, I spent a hundred dollars per stamp if it would ALL to go enforcement, or other direct enhancement of the fishery.
Annual limit of 5 may be a hard sell. I'd almost set the bar at 15. Otherwise, I think we may loose a lot of chickens to high-grading, after watching how those things beat the hell out of themselves when brought into the boat, I don't know how may of them would survive a release. A hali stamp would be great, but the salmon stamps only return one dollar out of every six we spend, I spent a hundred dollars per stamp if it would ALL to go enforcement, or other direct enhancement of the fishery.
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mason.jar
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It wasn't too many months ago and many members of this site were arguing for more. I am uncertain where the focus should be other than what we have today is actually the same as last year, and more than likely will not deviate too far off track for next. Mason
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scott craven
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annual limit of 5 ???
that's only 5 successful trips..
I can tell you right now, if annual limit is any less than 15,
there will be a lot of wasted chickens thrown back dead [xx(]
jmho
No prob, I derailed it a bit too! It's all good man. I know Chris from SFAB wouldn't like to hear a guide arguing for a lower limit, but we all know what happened to the Brentwood Bay fishery, something about 8 springs a day as a limit if I recall. The offshore banks with the nice little chicken halibut are just like that, or like fishing winters. It's shooting fish in a barrel. That's why we are not allowed to go snag salmon out of rivers, because it's not sporting, and it's targetting a simple easy fish.
I'm REALLY getting roasted for my comments here via PM., but really, where else in the world can someone buy a 28 dollar license, go out on the ocean, and bring home the bounty that we can. I wouldn't mind being able to guide 20 years from now.
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Good topic. 1 per day 2 possession works fine for me. The points above about increased effort are excellent. Until the stocks turn around I have no complaint. I am also fully in favor of a yearly limit. Regardless of what the number is people will continue to release the chickens in search of bigger fish. I also fully support a yearly limit of max 10 with an increase in fines for those who choose to cheat.
wolf
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We all are passonate about this fishery but you have to remember its not about conservation its all about allocation DFO is all sitting back laughing at us because it has flipped to that.
If it was that easy to get more allocation by buying it then a fee for a hali stamp I would be ALL in favor for IF and this is a huge IF ALL that money went to the purchase of quota not a dollar like I have stated before and salmon 9 has said if not forget it I dont want any part of a stamp system just another way for the government to squeeze us by the balls again...
Annual limit so be it 5 or 10 or 15 just as long as we have one.
Wolf
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If it was that easy to get more allocation by buying it then a fee for a hali stamp I would be ALL in favor for IF and this is a huge IF ALL that money went to the purchase of quota not a dollar like I have stated before and salmon 9 has said if not forget it I dont want any part of a stamp system just another way for the government to squeeze us by the balls again...
Annual limit so be it 5 or 10 or 15 just as long as we have one.
Wolf
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tubber
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I hope to make 3 trips a year from the interior. That's $1500 just for gas and ferries. I could still live with 1 per day, 2 poss, and 6 per year. Even if they are chickens, that's 24 fillets. It's about tying gear, planning, dreaming, then being on the water, not the total poundage in the freezer. I love halibut, but that is plenty for my family. It's still way cheaper for me to buy it if I run out.
Would mandatory barbless big circle hooks for easier release of chickens be worth implementing in certain areas?
Would mandatory barbless big circle hooks for easier release of chickens be worth implementing in certain areas?
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powder
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If you are having problems releasing your countless chickens try larger hooks,circle hooks and bigger bait. No reason for using small hooks and problems releasing small halibut.
searun
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2 per day 2 possession works, with a punch card/stamp system similar to chinook with max number of tags of 10.
I think with the cost of fuel, some guys are discouraged from going out for only one fish per trip, so why not let them get their fish in as few a number of trips as possible, but control overall catch with a punch card system with a low total possession.
I'm also in favor of a max size limit to encourage release of large female spawners. If there was a size limit it would encourage guys to stop targeting the large flatties by anchoring around pinnacles.
I think with the cost of fuel, some guys are discouraged from going out for only one fish per trip, so why not let them get their fish in as few a number of trips as possible, but control overall catch with a punch card system with a low total possession.
I'm also in favor of a max size limit to encourage release of large female spawners. If there was a size limit it would encourage guys to stop targeting the large flatties by anchoring around pinnacles.
Captain Dudds
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I've been using barbless 16/0 circles and they are great. Very easy to flip fish off and have not had one fall off. Kept a tally and so far 75% of hits stick. Not perfect but its enough for me.
10 fish annual limit. that is still alot of halibut. even at 15 lbs per fish, thats 150 lbs so about 100 lbs of meat. You could eat about 2 lbs per week for the year.
10 fish annual limit. that is still alot of halibut. even at 15 lbs per fish, thats 150 lbs so about 100 lbs of meat. You could eat about 2 lbs per week for the year.
Blacksheep
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My question is how much seafood can a family eat in a year? Along with the halibut you have salmon, crab, and prawns. We have seafood about 3 times a week. So I guess my answer is 1 a day is fine with me.
Captain Dudds mention that if you ended up with just 15 lbs. of fillets from a halibut and you had to go to a store and buy that at $10.00 a pound, thats a $150.00 worth of hali.
Just food for thought.
Captain Dudds mention that if you ended up with just 15 lbs. of fillets from a halibut and you had to go to a store and buy that at $10.00 a pound, thats a $150.00 worth of hali.
Just food for thought.
I am all for a yearly limit. I can even live with 1 hali per day if it was for the right reason. However, I strongly disagree with cutting my limit in half while there is no real concern for conservation - but when it's all about an unfair quota allocation. For that reason I will never agree to this measure and any which may still come down the pipe and will do whatever I can to fight this unfairness. I am not getting lulled in with time!
