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wildmanyeah
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Actual report good read, Government got their pee pee whacked, Some things in the report that both the pro FF and Anti FF fish farms people on this forum have pointed out many times.
http://www.oag-bvg.gc.ca/internet/English/parl_cesd_201804_01_e_42992.html#p28
1.47 Use of the precautionary approach in managing aquaculture. In its Aquaculture Policy Framework, the Department committed to applying the “precautionary approach” to decision making. This approach ensured that when there were threats of serious or irreversible damage to wild fish, lack of full scientific certainty would not be used as a reason for postponing measures to protect them.
1.48However, the Department had not clarified how it would apply the precautionary approach in its management of aquaculture. For example, it had not set limits or thresholds for when to take action if it observed declines in wild fish stocks in areas where aquaculture was prevalent. To respond to such declines, the Department would have to consider the potential effects of aquaculture along with those of other stressors, such as climate change and overfishing.
1.49In our view, a clear explanation of how the Department applied the precautionary approach was especially important, given its commitment to advancing aquaculture, as stated in the Aquaculture Policy Framework. Without this explanation, the Department was vulnerable to claims that it prioritized the development of the aquaculture industry over the protection of wild fish.
1.50Recommendation. Fisheries and Oceans Canada should determine and communicate how it applies the precautionary approach to managing aquaculture when there is uncertainty about the effects of aquaculture on wild fish. The Department should also clearly articulate the level of risk to wild fish that it accepts when enabling the aquaculture industry.
The Department’s response. Agreed. Fisheries and Oceans Canada will continue to apply the precautionary approach according to the Government of Canada’s framework on precaution. The Department applies the precautionary approach where appropriate, as a subcomponent within an overall decision-making approach, to deal with risks of serious or irreversible harm even with significant scientific uncertainty. Even when a particular activity is deemed “low” risk, lack of full scientific certainty shall not be used to postpone mitigation measures to prevent further potential environmental degradation. The Department will clearly communicate how it applies the precautionary approach to management decisions (for example, on the Department’s website).
To support this, the Department conducts research to characterize how individual species, populations, and communities respond to a range of stressors, including aquaculture. This research informs management decision making concerning establishment or refinement of thresholds to protect at-risk ecosystem functions and valued components.
The Department will further explore options, building on best practices in the current pathway of effects framework, to more clearly articulate, by March 2019, how precaution and the application of risk assessments inform departmental decision making.
http://www.oag-bvg.gc.ca/internet/English/parl_cesd_201804_01_e_42992.html#p28
1.47 Use of the precautionary approach in managing aquaculture. In its Aquaculture Policy Framework, the Department committed to applying the “precautionary approach” to decision making. This approach ensured that when there were threats of serious or irreversible damage to wild fish, lack of full scientific certainty would not be used as a reason for postponing measures to protect them.
1.48However, the Department had not clarified how it would apply the precautionary approach in its management of aquaculture. For example, it had not set limits or thresholds for when to take action if it observed declines in wild fish stocks in areas where aquaculture was prevalent. To respond to such declines, the Department would have to consider the potential effects of aquaculture along with those of other stressors, such as climate change and overfishing.
1.49In our view, a clear explanation of how the Department applied the precautionary approach was especially important, given its commitment to advancing aquaculture, as stated in the Aquaculture Policy Framework. Without this explanation, the Department was vulnerable to claims that it prioritized the development of the aquaculture industry over the protection of wild fish.
1.50Recommendation. Fisheries and Oceans Canada should determine and communicate how it applies the precautionary approach to managing aquaculture when there is uncertainty about the effects of aquaculture on wild fish. The Department should also clearly articulate the level of risk to wild fish that it accepts when enabling the aquaculture industry.
The Department’s response. Agreed. Fisheries and Oceans Canada will continue to apply the precautionary approach according to the Government of Canada’s framework on precaution. The Department applies the precautionary approach where appropriate, as a subcomponent within an overall decision-making approach, to deal with risks of serious or irreversible harm even with significant scientific uncertainty. Even when a particular activity is deemed “low” risk, lack of full scientific certainty shall not be used to postpone mitigation measures to prevent further potential environmental degradation. The Department will clearly communicate how it applies the precautionary approach to management decisions (for example, on the Department’s website).
To support this, the Department conducts research to characterize how individual species, populations, and communities respond to a range of stressors, including aquaculture. This research informs management decision making concerning establishment or refinement of thresholds to protect at-risk ecosystem functions and valued components.
The Department will further explore options, building on best practices in the current pathway of effects framework, to more clearly articulate, by March 2019, how precaution and the application of risk assessments inform departmental decision making.
Lol! Perhaps if you say it often enough people will believe it. All that has been posted are links from other countries or links that suggest there may be disease transfers from farmed to wild salmon on the Pacific coast.
So let’s try again … name a disease that originated in farmed BC or Washington state salmon that transferred to wild Pacific salmon. When and where did that happen? What was the mortality rate?
so then please name the disease........been waiting two or three years now......
you keep saying or claiming the are destroying salmon stocks at an alarming rate, please explain. whats the diseases name or how many wild salmon are fish farms killing and what stocks are affected?
there simple questions.... very simple. as activists you should have the answer right there in front of you. i never seem to get an answer......just attacked personally. the next post should be " they have the following ##### disease." BUT IT WONT BE..... you will just post more fear mongrolling links or activist BS.
so no answer??? DUDE.....!!! you just said i was wrong!!! and i asked and still nothing from you. OMG lol
but yet you come back and answer with nothing. the article in question says
"The audit found that Fisheries and Oceans Canada has been slow to study the effects of Canada’s $1 billion salmon-farming industry on wild fish, and is not doing enough to prevent the spread of infectious disease. The department has failed to put limits on the amount of drugs and pesticides that salmon farms can use, and has limited capacity to enforce its own regulations, the report concluded."
i asked a question...... you cant answer, and your trying to make me look like the town idiot. cmon back it up give me a name.......
Bye bye then.......
"The audit found that Fisheries and Oceans Canada has been slow to study the effects of Canada’s $1 billion salmon-farming industry on wild fish, and is not doing enough to prevent the spread of infectious disease. The department has failed to put limits on the amount of drugs and pesticides that salmon farms can use, and has limited capacity to enforce its own regulations, the report concluded."
i asked a question...... you cant answer, and your trying to make me look like the town idiot. cmon back it up give me a name.......
Bye bye then.......
Maybe you FF advocates should read the Auditor General's report. At least it's hard for the FF advocates and associated PR firms to discredit the Auditor General and deflect implications of the findings. Rockdog is correct - this all has been discussed ad nauseam on this thread and numerous others - all of which both of you participated. Not playing this game anymore.
cuttlefish
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That AG's report is hardly a glowing endorsement of DFO's" claim to have "some of the most stringent regulations in the world."
wildmanyeah
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I read it she made recommendations and DFO responded saying they would address them all.
But for all hopping that fish farms will be gone in the near future it won’t be at the hands of DFO. They won’t have some reports out till 2020 and I beleive their is a federal election coming out before that correct?
Best angle is still with the province not renewing the leacese. So all your effort and thought should be around that. NDP don’t have a lot of power in stopping the pipe line but their sure doing their best to delay stop it. Something like fish farms where they hold the power should not even be a question yet the Provence still seems to want to refer to DFO.
Also who’s left to convince on this forum most signed the petition that was posted. So it’s certainly not people in this forum. Fish farms is a dead issue is far as I’m concerned on this forum now. Theirs no one left to convince on eather side.
The question now becomes does the Provence have the political guts to go after remote communities on the Island that religh on a 1 billion Dollar fish farm industry. Community’s that only have logging and a dieing fishing industry if fish farms are gone.
No one has stated yet that salmon stocks will rebound if fish farms are gone only that their may be some runs that have slightly more. Maybe...being the key and that is a guesstimate at best
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Looks like the final nail in the coffin. Hope its not too late for Wild Salmon. Good riddance of these Fish Farms out of the Ocean. The Auditor knows what Precautionery Principle means.
wildmanyeah
Crew Member
The precautionary principle is hard for DFO to invoke while DFO is allowing overfishing to take place. Something the Auditor General points out in the report.
Take cultus lake sockeye, will use them as the example they are an endangered stock.
Cultus lake needs a 10 million dollar sanitary upgrade, Some FN groups have pointed out that that is the cause for the decline, the lake is polluted
Cultus lake sockeye are also exposed to overfishing in mix stock fisheries,
Cultus lake sockeye also may be subject from virus/disease from the Hatchery
Cultus lake sockeye may also experience losses do to viruses/diseases in densely populated fish farm areas along their migration
The Precautionary Principle should be invoked in all instances and yet DFO does not apply it.
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again hoping for a different result. There are no guarantees about rebounds but removing Fish Farm pollution out of the Wild Salmons habitat is something that should be done immediatly to give them the best chance for the future.
Agreed.
Canada’s Response to Piscine Reovirus in BC
Briefing to Canada’s Chief Science Advisor, Dr. Mona Nemer, April 23, 2018
http://alexandramorton.typepad.com/...efing-for-chief-scientist-of-canada-hsmi.html
Briefing to Canada’s Chief Science Advisor, Dr. Mona Nemer, April 23, 2018
http://alexandramorton.typepad.com/...efing-for-chief-scientist-of-canada-hsmi.html
Coalition calls for end to open-pen salmon farming in B.C. by 2025
Wild First wants transition to land-based aquaculture
Rafferty Baker · CBC News · Posted: Apr 27, 2018
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...-for-end-of-open-pen-salmon-farming-1.4637585
Wild First wants transition to land-based aquaculture
Rafferty Baker · CBC News · Posted: Apr 27, 2018
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...-for-end-of-open-pen-salmon-farming-1.4637585
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