Experimental Halibut Quota Transfer Mechanism

[capt hook]

Question,If I catch Halibut under this program,am I allowed to sell them?I bought them just like as if they were in a store and as such should be able to re sell?

You would think so , but ???
if I were a guide or resort and in business to make money I would be buying and selling halibut within the rules.
its just commercial biz as much as the commies.....
Charge the client what you pay and make profit ... pretty simple really.
I know many dont like it , but the day of the buffalo hunter is long gone , get used to it.

 

[trophywife]

You would think so , but ???
if I were a guide or resort and in business to make money I would be buying and selling halibut within the rules.
its just commercial biz as much as the commies.....
Charge the client what you pay and make profit ... pretty simple really.
I know many dont like it , but the day of the buffalo hunter is long gone , get used to it.

you or your opinion (if you were a guide or lodge) are so wrong in so many ways, as discussed previously on this forum. many times.

 

[capt hook]

you or your opinion (if you were a guide or lodge) are so wrong in so many ways, as discussed previously on this forum. many times.

this forum is to discuss issues with open minds , not to be bully'd by a few who want to control issues or opinions.

 

[Sculpin]

this forum is to discuss issues with open minds , not to be bully'd by a few who want to control issues or opinions.

This forum is for recreational sports fisher people to share idea's. It's not for commercial fisherman like yourself to call out others on their opinions that are like minded (see previous sentence). You may be a recreational angler but your heart is still on the commercial side which brings a whole new light to every single one of your posts and it shows to boot.

There are some commercial fisherman on this forum that hide behind the recreational fisherman label. Some are on here to send an alternative agenda. Some are on here to stir up the conversation. Some are on here to show their passion for the wild fish. It is a real mix. We do see through a lot of the BS however smart you think you are. You have every right to obtain a recreational license just like the rest of us and participate on this forum. I would like to see some more recreational angling thoughts and motives from said individuals in the future to keep this site going.

Food for thought for all the commercial/recreational posters out there.

Cheers,
John

 

[Big Green Machine]

this forum is to discuss issues with open minds , not to be bully'd by a few who want to control issues or opinions.

This forum is called 'Sport' fishing BC. You may be a sport fisherman, but your posts always come from a Commercial angle.

 

[SerengetiGuide]

I'm curious as what some of your ideas are?

For one, it is very obvious that the approach we are taking now is not working. Writing letters and going to meetings (while this would still be done) is not enough. How do people get things done nowadays? Combination of social media and an approach that catches the attention of the public and mainstream media. Despite some of you who say larger scale protests and gatherings are not the way to go...it is in these day and ages. Now that's not promoting illegal activities but if peaceful protesting that may catch the eye of the province's citizens, or even country, can happen and it happens to inconvenience a few for the greater good, it is worth it (Kelly will be all over this one, but it's proven it works). That's one method.

I also think there are far to many associations and the such, one large membership group has MUCH more pull than an assorted variety (ie, making a membership group for southern vancouver island, not diminishing it's positive influence, but breaking down and segregating into such small and localized factions does not help as much as one larger group would), and would have more monetary backing to push for advertising and raising awareness. These are just a few things off the top of my head.

 

[capt hook]

This forum is for recreational sports fisher people to share idea's. It's not for commercial fisherman like yourself to call out others on their opinions that are like minded (see previous sentence). You may be a recreational angler but your heart is still on the commercial side which brings a whole new light to every single one of your posts and it shows to boot.

There are some commercial fisherman on this forum that hide behind the recreational fisherman label. Some are on here to send an alternative agenda. Some are on here to stir up the conversation. Some are on here to show their passion for the wild fish. It is a real mix. We do see through a lot of the BS however smart you think you are. You have every right to obtain a recreational license just like the rest of us and participate on this forum. I would like to see some more recreational angling thoughts and motives from said individuals in the future to keep this site going.

Food for thought for all the commercial/recreational posters out there.

Cheers,
John

chill out dude...
its not about heart at all its about reality and business and management of the stocks.
like i said , the buffalo hunting days are over .... OVER !!!! accountabilty to exact amounts is the new reality.
yes , i was commercial and also a serious sportie , so i see things on both sides.
and i do see resorts and guides as being as commercial as any other commercial fisherman just trying to make a living.
The quota system is here to stay , i too hated it when it came in yrs ago , but now there is fresh halibut available to fish monger shops most of the year and not being harvested in 19 days like it used to be. I love to catch a couple every year to fillet and bag in protions to enjoy thru out the winter and am quite happy with what i usually have in freezer at yrs end , salmon , prawns , hali , cod etc. but what i see on here are mostly the guides and resorts wanting product for customers.
I think if i wanted to survive as a guide , or resort or a longliner , i would buy the quota i need to survive and get on with biz....beating a dead horse wanting it all for free attitude is not going to cut it anymore.

 

[Sculpin]

chill out dude...
its not about heart at all its about reality and business and management of the stocks.
like i said , the buffalo hunting days are over .... OVER !!!! accountabilty to exact amounts is the new reality.
yes , i was commercial and also a serious sportie , so i see things on both sides.
and i do see resorts and guides as being as commercial as any other commercial fisherman just trying to make a living.
The quota system is here to stay , i too hated it when it came in yrs ago , but now there is fresh halibut available to fish monger shops most of the year and not being harvested in 19 days like it used to be. I love to catch a couple every year to fillet and bag in protions to enjoy thru out the winter and am quite happy with what i usually have in freezer at yrs end , salmon , prawns , hali , cod etc. but what i see on here are mostly the guides and resorts wanting product for customers.
I think if i wanted to survive as a guide , or resort or a longliner , i would buy the quota i need to survive and get on with biz....beating a dead horse wanting it all for free attitude is not going to cut it anymore.

And there you go folks..............true agenda laid out in front of us from this member of our community. How do you like it? I think his attitude say's it all.

Thanks for sharing your comments capt hook. We all know now how your heart lies to everyone single one of us.

Your the one that needs to chill out and not spill the beans lol. It's called fishing for a reason. I hooked you big time lol.

Not so cheery,
John

The ITQ system needs to be overhauled big time. We would not see posts like the one from capt hook if that system was dismantled.
We need to go back to family oriented commercial fishing of our local stocks period. This BS of quota holders leasing out ITQ's and sitting on there fat azzes has to end.

 

[trophywife]

coming in the near future ,, wind power being a commodity,, capt hook having to pay to go out for a breath of fresh air whilst riding bc ferries.

 

[Dave S]

You might fit in better here capt hook....... http://www.commercial-fishing.org/forum/

I'm sure they would love to hear about how you have grown to love quota fishing.

 

[Sculpin]

You might fit in better here capt hook....... http://www.commercial-fishing.org/forum/

I'm sure they would love to hear about how you have grown to love quota fishing.

I agree he would fit in better with those folks lol. I'm just a good judge of character and can snuff out a commercial fisherman with the best of em. I can read between the lines with all the commercial posters on here.

I looked over that site and it say's 2006 till now on it. I call BS. Can anyone with more computer savvy skills tell when that site went up?

 

[Deewar25]

I looked over that site and it say's 2006 till now on it. I call BS. Can anyone with more computer savvy skills tell when that site went up?

Looks legit to me...first posts were beginning of 2007...

 

[Rockfish]

I also think there are far to many associations and the such, one large membership group has MUCH more pull than an assorted variety (ie, making a membership group for southern vancouver island, not diminishing it's positive influence, but breaking down and segregating into such small and localized factions does not help as much as one larger group would), and would have more monetary backing to push for advertising and raising awareness. These are just a few things off the top of my head.

Have to disagree on this. The establishment of SVIAC was not a breaking down into sub organizations at all because there was no larger organization of its type to break into smaller units. Rather it was a beginning and in my view the first step in the right direction. If we had kept doing things the way we always had we would have continued getting the same results. How have those results been in terms of restoration of the runs and increasing fishing opportunities?

If you don’t want to join and help its expansion, why not start up the North Vancouver Island Anglers Coalition. Once you get it established, propose an amalgamation into the Vancouver Island Angler Coalition or eventually become a sub area of some future BCAC.

It is very impressive what SVIAC has accomplished so far after only 4 months. Hundreds of members who got off their butts, attended meetings and put in their own money and some very good things are in the works which will benefit all anglers.

 

[GLG]

If you don’t want to join and help its expansion, why not start up the North Vancouver Island Anglers Coalition. Once you get it established propose and amalgamation into the Vancouver Island Angler Coalition or eventually become a sub area of some future BCAC.

And there my friends could be the path to the future.

Capt Hook..... Thanks for owning up to your honourable profession.
Stick around as you can give needed input from time to time.
Many years on the sea have taught you and we can benefit if your willing to share.
Might lock horns with you, like I do with Fish4all, but I think there is something to learn.
Oh and guy's that go to lodges or use guides should not have to lease quota .... ever.
I'm one of those guy's and it's my fish .... not theirs.
GLG

 

[Sculpin]

"It's not about heart......but business"

I'm sorry but this has been bugging me all night long. It's all about heart with us recreational fisher people. We are the ones that have volunteer people working on our end of things. Heart is the matter of it all. The heart and passion wins every time my friend. A true recreational fisherman knows this and that is why we are so powerful. We don't have greed and money confusing our brains lol.

 

[capt hook]

"It's not about heart......but business"

I'm sorry but this has been bugging me all night long. It's all about heart with us recreational fisher people. We are the ones that have volunteer people working on our end of things. Heart is the matter of it all. The heart and passion wins every time my friend. A true recreational fisherman knows this and that is why we are so powerful. We don't have greed and money confusing our brains lol.

Dont let it bug you too much ,
but , maybe i,m wrong but i thought you were a commie guide boat?
that takes recreational fishermen out and charges money for it?

 

[Labman2]

Dont let it bug you too much ,
but , maybe i,m wrong but i thought you were a commie guide boat?
that takes recreational fishermen out and charges money for it?

Everything I've read about Sculpin, he owns a Welding outfit, and takes people out on a rec. basis.
Not sure how you ever figured he was a Guide.

 

[Aces]

Oh don't worry. I will be. As of may 2014 im back in bc permanently year round so I will be...and doing a hell of a lot more for the cause than you...

GOOD!!!! Then you'll see how difficult and mind numbing the whole process is.

BTW, I've been involved on many levels since the mid 80's and if you " can do more for the cause than me" than all the power to ya. But talk is cheap, kid

 

[SerengetiGuide]

GOOD!!!! Then you'll see how difficult and mind numbing the whole process is.

BTW, I've been involved on many levels since the mid 80's and if you " can do more for the cause than me" than all the power to ya. But talk is cheap, kid

Hope I get to meet you and see how much you talk then. I hear you're not nearly as chatty in person but more of a keyboard chirper. This will probably get deleted but oh well.

 

[Aces]

Hope I get to meet you and see how much you talk then. I hear you're not nearly as chatty in person but more of a keyboard chirper. This will probably get deleted but oh well.

Hmm

Sounds like a physical threat to some old guy thats probably the same age as your Dad. Not very cool

Maybe you'll get in there and do your part instead being an Internet bully