Early Halibut Opening

The time is NOW for the public fishery (rec sector) to push hard to get more than 15% of the TAC!! They did in in WA state we can do the same here!

It is a no brainer that the public fishery generates more way money for the economy then the commercial sector does when it comes to the halibut fishery. This is what we need to push our politicians for.
 
Hot topic. Goes around every year. Lots of good and bad suggestions. LOL!
I like the idea of a halibut stamp. Canadians pay less. This would tell how many license holders are actually targeting halibut.
Also make the regs regional. South Island needs March 1 opening. Other regions are more focused on later season.
 
The time is NOW for the public fishery (rec sector) to push hard to get more than 15% of the TAC!! They did in in WA state we can do the same here!

It is a no brainer that the public fishery generates more way money for the economy then the commercial sector does when it comes to the halibut fishery. This is what we need to push our politicians for.
To many people have signed up with and are participating in the “experimental” leasing program now. We will never get more without purchasing it IMO
 
To many people have signed up with and are participating in the “experimental” leasing program now. We will never get more without purchasing it IMO
Agreed. Leasing quota is not going to get us any where. We should not be in position to lease as no one should own it. If there is quota available that is not being fished for it should be moved to Rec side.
 
Hot topic. Goes around every year. Lots of good and bad suggestions. LOL!
I like the idea of a halibut stamp. Canadians pay less. This would tell how many license holders are actually targeting halibut.
Also make the regs regional. South Island needs March 1 opening. Other regions are more focused on later season.

I like the regional regulation idea. Could base it off previous catch data to forecast catches and work into TAC. I don’t fish South Island but between salmon regs and productive Hali windows, this area deserves to get early season access.
 
The only way TAC will grow is if it’s taken from the Commercial Fishers. The only way it will be taken is if it’s sold back to by the Commercial Fishers. Question is would any sell quota, because leasing it from them isn’t optimal for us as a long range solution. Hali Stamp?
 
Hali Stamp?

This as been proposed I believe and DFO came back with they can’t collect the money or some regulatory hurdle.

And no one has time really to go after the government and gain support from MPs ect… what something like this would take

I beleive the answer was posted on here about it at one point.
 
I think DFO is just coming up with the usual govt. bureaucratic BS excuses to not have a halibut stamp. If there is a political will they can make a way! So we in the public fishery need to make this a key political issue if we want things to change!
 
This as been proposed I believe and DFO came back with they can’t collect the money or some regulatory hurdle.

And no one has time really to go after the government and gain support from MPs ect… what something like this would take

I beleive the answer was posted on here about it at one point
Is it just me or does DFO seem to be the only Federal Government Dept that always claims to be hamstrung by regulation that can’t be changed. Maybe the problem is we aren’t accessing the Minister but rather the gatekeepers? Seems to me if you can bring in a system to collect fees for a salmon stamp you can repeat the procedure for halibut? It’s funny how quickly Transport Canada was able to react and create “Temporary Whale Sanctuaries”, yet DFO can’t seemingly do anything?
 
100% I feel like if motivated it isn’t as insane as they make it out to be. Have got my local candidate asking shadow fisheries minister…although won’t mean a thing unless we elect a new CPC government
 
Is it just me or does DFO seem to be the only Federal Government Dept that always claims to be hamstrung by regulation that can’t be changed. Maybe the problem is we aren’t accessing the Minister but rather the gatekeepers? Seems to me if you can bring in a system to collect fees for a salmon stamp you can repeat the procedure for halibut? It’s funny how quickly Transport Canada was able to react and create “Temporary Whale Sanctuaries”, yet DFO can’t seemingly do anything?

Sure but what exactly do you expect to happen after the questions asked and the answer no.

After that your left lobbying the minister and beyond talk on the forum that’s where people’s efforts end.

This is also why industry members predominantly the ones part of the working groups and SFAB they are the ones that show up to the meetings.
 
Sure but what exactly do you expect to happen after the questions asked and the answer no.

After that your left lobbying the minister and beyond talk on the forum that’s where people’s efforts end.

This is also why industry members predominantly the ones part of the working groups and SFAB they are the ones that show up to the meetings.
Yeah, I’m sure some get discouraged but it’s never a waste to go to the source, the person who can say yes. It isn’t Rocket Science nowadays, the Ministers email address is readily available and it’s not like you need to major in prose to make a point. I respect those who attend the meetings but in no way do I accept them as the only access I have to the policy makers. I drafted an email to the Minister yesterday with my thoughts and will communicate directly because that’s the way I make my points and avoid any filtering or misunderstanding. I like getting a direct response from her office and I like having a record of that response. We should be encouraging people to communicate directly and not expect someone to do it for us.
 
Yeah, I’m sure some get discouraged but it’s never a waste to go to the source, the person who can say yes. It isn’t Rocket Science nowadays, the Ministers email address is readily available and it’s not like you need to major in prose to make a point. I respect those who attend the meetings but in no way do I accept them as the only access I have to the policy makers. I drafted an email to the Minister yesterday with my thoughts and will communicate directly because that’s the way I make my points and avoid any filtering or misunderstanding. I like getting a direct response from her office and I like having a record of that response. We should be encouraging people to communicate directly and not expect someone to do it for us.

I know from my work that numbers matter - and one guy saying he represents 100,000 folks isn't nearly as impactful as the same number of emails and letters.
 
When they do fly overs in areas of the coast every boat is counted as full limits. Maybe start there by requiring live catch recording data on the new app that you attach your license to. At least the tabulated data would be quite a bit more accurate and it would also cut down on any kind of licence reprint arguments. The more accurate the data and the sooner the access to it, the better in the long run overall. Truest numbers don't lie.

Just thoughts
 
Is it just me or does DFO seem to be the only Federal Government Dept that always claims to be hamstrung by regulation that can’t be changed. Maybe the problem is we aren’t accessing the Minister but rather the gatekeepers? Seems to me if you can bring in a system to collect fees for a salmon stamp you can repeat the procedure for halibut? It’s funny how quickly Transport Canada was able to react and create “Temporary Whale Sanctuaries”, yet DFO can’t seemingly do anything?
You know, we should whisper in Trump's ear that it is in his interest that a halibut stamp be implemented. He turns and threatens the federal govt with tariffs and you will see how fast these "unsurmountable hurdles" disappear! The one good thing about this whole Trump mess is that it shows you what is actually possible if governments are finally "motivated" to act!
 
You know, we should whisper in Trump's ear that it is in his interest that a halibut stamp be implemented. He turns and threatens the federal govt with tariffs and you will see how fast these "unsurmountable hurdles" disappear! The one good thing about this whole Trump mess is that it shows you what is actually possible if governments are finally "motivated" to act!
Your license is a recordable tag system already for Halibut, chinook salmon, and in some areas for lingcod. That data alone is valuable, but wasted every single year.
 
Hot topic. Goes around every year. Lots of good and bad suggestions. LOL!
I like the idea of a halibut stamp. Canadians pay less. This would tell how many license holders are actually targeting halibut.
Also make the regs regional. South Island needs March 1 opening. Other regions are more focused on later season.
Regional regs are of no benefit in spreading out the available TAC....recreational fishers are highly mobile and will just move from one area to the next. The only way that would work is to enforce a limited entry system and you are stuck with the area you select and cannot move. The management implications and complications are limitless.
 
Your license is a recordable tag system already for Halibut, chinook salmon, and in some areas for lingcod. That data alone is valuable, but wasted every single year.
The data is not wasted. Last year the iREC survey was changed. Fishers who recorded any halibut catch, where directed to go get their paper or electronic license and provide the actual lengths recorded. There were a number of other very helpful data inputs questioned. We requested the raw iREC files which allowed us to construct a very detailed analysis of where the recreational catch was taking place, by length of halibut, location, multi-day (2fish) limits etc. This is very time consuming - I personally devoted many hours. We just received the 2024 data, and will be constructing a similar analysis. With 2023 and 24, that will help better inform using actual data what size halibut are being caught, where, and we should be able to gain a sense of the effects of 2 fish limits.

Very clearly with the available TAC we have this season, it is impossible to plan a full season structured in the same manner as last season (1 over or 2 unders).

We do know that the biomass has shifted significantly to be dominated by small fish (65 - 90cm). IREC data last year confirmed this as well. The IPHC set line survey data also confirmed this same trend. IPHC stock assessment noted also the commercial catch was dominated by the 2012 and 2016 age cohorts (these same size fish). So, it is likely that if we planned a 2 fish possession regulation option we would use up a lot of TAC quickly because that is the size of fish most available to catch. That being the case, the only option would be to shorten the season (June - Aug) unless we investigate and consider other alternatives that slow down how we use TAC.

We have no prior experience and detailed data for a 1 fish (1/1 possession) option, so the hope is by completing a more detailed analysis of the iREC data it will better inform how the fishery will perform if we considered other options such as 1/1. It will be interesting to see how the 2024 iREC data stacks up once done, and if a 1/1 option could help stretch out the fishery for a longer period. This point is worth repeating - Right now we have less TAC than we used in June - August last year, so clearly we either shorten the season and run it out from June to August, or we identify options that dramatically slow down the use of TAC which might enable us to gain back some of the shoulder season.

Any way we slice it, the old status quo isn't an option so it will be very hard to find a solution that pleases everyone. In that case, the SFAB Halibut survey did indicate a preference for protecting the core season (June to Sept). Anything we can implement to squeeze the TAC and extend the shoulder season out from the core season is a bonus.

Everyone who volunteers on the SFAB Halibut WG knows and appreciates there will be impacts which at this stage of our analysis appears unavoidable as we simply don't have enough TAC. We know that both early and late season opportunities are critically important to different geographic areas and these appear to be in jeopardy. Our desire is to hopefully find some sort of silver bullet to squeeze as much of a season as we can from the available TAC.
 
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