Driving an EV pickup

That’s good because there was that news last year saying they were halting production and they seem like they are a really good platform.
I suspect the news you heard was garbled. Ford reduced the production line from three shifts to two, to align output with order volume.

It's not uncommon for a factory to halt production as a model year ends and orders are filled. Retooling for the next model year then takes place.

Having said that, it's apparent that EV truck sales are modest compared to manufacturer hopes. About 100,000 Lightnings have been built since their launch in 2022, or about 8% of overall F150s built in that same period. Chevy, Tesla and Rivian have produced about the same again, so roughly 200,000 truck-shaped EVs on the road, almost all of them in nth america at this stage.

So e-trucks aren't turning the world upside down. But they're not going away, either. They make a lot of sense for most things people do with trucks. When they work, they really work. But humans don't always make rational buying decisions, and the waters have been muddied greatly by the fear/uncertainty/doubt campaign against electrification. Which is a "whatever" issue to most of us. We just keep driving, regardless of rhetoric.
 
FordPass app has had a refresh. Warming up the cabin for a few minutes before an early departure. The scheduled departure times system is still available.

My Silverado has the remote start feature, but it's nice to be able to warm up silently and without exhaust emissions.

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I imagine it’s already sub zero in the mornings?

My Letrigo e-bike has over the air update capabilities but is missing features that I’d like, especially range that has been on the Bosch ones for about a decade. It has a big screen but isn’t an android, it would be so nice to have Google maps built in. The ability to plug in a USB-C light, my buddy started a mountain bike light company that is amazing that he plans to start selling an improved version for people working at night, and charge phones would be a great feature.

I had a good chat with my buddy from IL Sauvage Brewery about his decision to trade in/sell his 600k duramax for mid range Silverado EV. The extra payload vs the long range battery was key. He can deliver beer all over VI with an 8 minute stop at the Tesla charger in Nanaimo. Bonus is he put a hug solar array on his house so charging is free most of the time and commercial rates at the brewery.
 
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I imagine it’s already sub zero in the mornings?

My Letrigo e-bike has over the air update capabilities but is missing features that I’d like, especially range that has been on the Bosch ones for about a decade. It has a big screen but isn’t an android, it would be so nice to have Google maps built in. The ability to plug in a USB-C light, my buddy started a mountain bike light company that is amazing that he plans to start selling an improved version for people working at night, and charge phones would be a great feature.

I had a good chat with my buddy from IL Sauvage Brewery about his decision to trade in/sell his 600k duramax for mid range Silverado EV. The extra payload vs the long range battery was key. He can deliver beer all over VI with an 8 minute stop at the Tesla charger in Nanaimo. Bonus is he put a hug solar array on his house so charging is free most of the time and commercial rates at the brewery.
I wouldnt fret too much about getting the range display in km. One of the biggest things EV owners learn is to forget about the GOM and just monitor battery %. Besides, if you do run it down to 0%, you can still pedal it home. That's an another advantage of a bike over a car!
 
I wouldnt fret too much about getting the range display in km. One of the biggest things EV owners learn is to forget about the GOM and just monitor battery %. Besides, if you do run it down to 0%, you can still pedal it home. That's an another advantage of a bike over a car!
Yeah, anxiety goes up with a new e vehicle and a 100lb of kids a big bike and a dad bod the pedalling 100% 5km, seems more daunting than riding back from East Sooke with a dead battery and a coho did!
 
Hey. I dont have an ETruck, but my work may wind up with some. My guess is a Ford or Chev. I've been in the Lightnings. Nice vehicle. What are the Chevy trucks like?
 
Story has been picked up by a zillion click bait AI sites. They're "considering" ending Lightning because the new all-electric platform is nearly ready, MY 27 or 28. Over 100,000 Lightnings now on the road, not bad for a stopgap model to keep EV buyers happy until they get their purpose-built true EV models into production.
 
I haven't driven the SilvErado yet, but they have massive battery, over 700 km range. If I was towing long trips more than I do now (twice a year), I'd consider switching. The GM trucks are a full electric build on their Ultium platform, I'd expect first class ride, durability and comfort, same as Ford builds into Lightning. Both makers know a LOT about building trucks.
 
With growing sales, it looked good? but if the subsidies are gone and the economy hiccups…..

Ford F-150 Lightning sales figures show that as of October 2025, a total of 23,034 units have been sold for the year, which is a slight 1% increase over the previous year. Historical sales data indicates:
• 2022: 15,617 units
• 2023: 24,165 units
• 2024: 33,510 units
In the third quarter of 2025 alone, Ford sold 10,005 units, a 39.7% increase compared with the same period last year, largely driven by the federal tax credit deadline. However, sales sharply dropped in October 2025 to only 1,542 vehicles, down 17% from the prior year. Overall, since the launch in 2022, approximately 80,000 Ford Lightnings have been sold in total.
 
With growing sales, it looked good? but if the subsidies are gone and the economy hiccups…..

Ford F-150 Lightning sales figures show that as of October 2025, a total of 23,034 units have been sold for the year, which is a slight 1% increase over the previous year. Historical sales data indicates:
• 2022: 15,617 units
• 2023: 24,165 units
• 2024: 33,510 units
In the third quarter of 2025 alone, Ford sold 10,005 units, a 39.7% increase compared with the same period last year, largely driven by the federal tax credit deadline. However, sales sharply dropped in October 2025 to only 1,542 vehicles, down 17% from the prior year. Overall, since the launch in 2022, approximately 80,000 Ford Lightnings have been sold in total.

All at a loss of 13 billion to Ford(shareholders)

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Was just on CKNW, auto writer Jeremy Kato was discussing the story.

Also listened to this Thursday, sounds like the lightening is done.
 
All at a loss of 13 billion to Ford(shareholders)

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Also listened to this Thursday, sounds like the lightening is done.
Was always on the cards. New EV platform truck was already in development as the first Lightnings hit the street in 2022. No one knows if they'll keep the Lightning name or go full re-brand. GM elected to call its all-EV trucks Silverado/Sierra despite them being completely different platform from their ICE namesakes.

Could be possible they'll pause release of the new Ford e-truck altogether. With the reduction of incentives in the US market, along with intense politicisation of electrification in general, the uptake of EVs in the US has lagged well behind the OECD average. Understandable that manufacturers are rethinking plans, they can't just keep pumping out models that aren't selling.
 
Would you buy a used lightening?

Absolutely. Used EVs don't have the mechanical degradation of ICE drivetrains. Think of all the things that you expect to replace on a 200,000-ish km gas vehicle: fuel pump, alternator, timing belt, power steering pump, possibly transmission. None of those exist on an EV. Battery degradation is slow, and doesn't take the vehicle off the road. It's the equivalent of a gradually shrinking gas tank. There's the non-drivetrain wear items, like tires, front end/suspension components, wiper blades, etc, but those have the same costs as on ICE vehicles.

In a generation from now, when most drivers are familiar with EV, odometer reading will be a less important metric for judging vehicle condition and likely maintenance/repair costs. Prospective buyers will ask for a copy of the vehicle's battery health report instead, and sellers will post pictures of the report in their ads.

There's good deals around on used Lightnings. Back in 2022 and 2023, the price difference between standard and extended range battery pack was about $16,000, before taxes. Today, that gap is blurred down to around half of that, or even less. And Ford loaded up those first release trucks with a lot of goodies to reward the early adopters which have been pared back since then. For example, the XLT in 22/23 got the 312A High package which included power tailgate, dual zone climate control, console work station, tailgate step, bed lighting and holddown package, power adjustable seats, power adjustable pedals, 9.6 kW onboard power, puddle lights, 360 camera system, Copilot driver assist, 12" touch screen, heated front seats, steering wheel and mirrors. Gas F150 buyers in those years had to buy the Lariat to access that package, as do Lightning buyers today, otherwise adding those items as individual options made the truck unaffordable. That early Lightning XLT was basically a Lariat minus the leather seats and laptop-sized centre screen. They were a somewhat rare bird, but a 22/23 XLT with the ER pack would be a prime buy - if you could find one. The only hardware improvement for MY2024 and beyond is the heat pump HVAC system, which reduces winter range loss. All the other improvements were in software, and those have been provided to early buyers in over the air updates.
 
FWIW, a quick scroll around some used truck sites comes up with average asking price for a 2023 Lightning XLT SR of $50K. MSRP for these new was $69K. So depreciation has been about 27% over two and a half years.

Wondering where that figure sits in the broader perspective of trucks in general, I then looked up gas 2023 F150 XLTs. Average price seems to be about $45K. Someone with more time and motivation than me could give more accurate figures, but it would seem that Lightning is depreciating at about the same rate as its ICE brethren.

PS, was far from an exhaustive search, but I did not see even one XLT ER for sale.
 
Absolutely. Used EVs don't have the mechanical degradation of ICE drivetrains. Think of all the things that you expect to replace on a 200,000-ish km gas vehicle: fuel pump, alternator, timing belt, power steering pump, possibly transmission. None of those exist on an EV. Battery degradation is slow, and doesn't take the vehicle off the road. It's the equivalent of a gradually shrinking gas tank. There's the non-drivetrain wear items, like tires, front end/suspension components, wiper blades, etc, but those have the same costs as on ICE vehicles.

In a generation from now, when most drivers are familiar with EV, odometer reading will be a less important metric for judging vehicle condition and likely maintenance/repair costs. Prospective buyers will ask for a copy of the vehicle's battery health report instead, and sellers will post pictures of the report in their ads.

There's good deals around on used Lightnings. Back in 2022 and 2023, the price difference between standard and extended range battery pack was about $16,000, before taxes. Today, that gap is blurred down to around half of that, or even less. And Ford loaded up those first release trucks with a lot of goodies to reward the early adopters which have been pared back since then. For example, the XLT in 22/23 got the 312A High package which included power tailgate, dual zone climate control, console work station, tailgate step, bed lighting and holddown package, power adjustable seats, power adjustable pedals, 9.6 kW onboard power, puddle lights, 360 camera system, Copilot driver assist, 12" touch screen, heated front seats, steering wheel and mirrors. Gas F150 buyers in those years had to buy the Lariat to access that package, as do Lightning buyers today, otherwise adding those items as individual options made the truck unaffordable. That early Lightning XLT was basically a Lariat minus the leather seats and laptop-sized centre screen. They were a somewhat rare bird, but a 22/23 XLT with the ER pack would be a prime buy - if you could find one. The only hardware improvement for MY2024 and beyond is the heat pump HVAC system, which reduces winter range loss. All the other improvements were in software, and those have been provided to early buyers in over the air updates.
Also, no exhaust system that needs replacing including expensive catalyst converters or annoying oxygen sensors. EVs are soooo cheap to run really. I've saved thousands per year since switching. And that's only for a little city commuter. My work truck probably saved even more. Its almost crazy that some people still by ICE vehicles.
 
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