DFO Rating System?

Charlie

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Has anyone heard anything about a DFO rating system for coastal BC?

And what does it really rate?
 
Never heard of such a thing....... where did you hear it?




20ft Alumaweld Intruder
 
quote:Originally posted by Cuba Libre

Never heard of such a thing....... where did you hear it?




20ft Alumaweld Intruder

Received this email:


" ***** Fishing Lodge

I thought that you would be interested in knowing that the DFO have just come out with a fishing rating system for coastal BC and the highest rating they give is 4 stars and Esperanza Inlet is the only area that they have given a 4 star designation. .......cheers...... XXXX"
 
sounds to me like the big d**ks are finding new ways to assist them in controlling where we fish. "Ya don't need to go to ****** inlet because there ain't any fish there." ;);)
 
quote:Originally posted by tidehunter

sounds to me like the big d**ks are finding new ways to assist them in controlling where we fish. "Ya don't need to go to ****** inlet because there ain't any fish there." ;);)

I am NOT</u> asking where to fish (I all ready know that)... and by the way, there are a lot of fish in that area! You just need to know when, where and how!

But, has anyone heard of this "new rating system by the DFO"? That is the question.
 
whoa ...you totally missed my point.I wasn't referring to you about anything. I don't know who you are and don't give a rats' hole where you fish or do anything else!
I shouldn't have to explain it so if you don't get it...oh well[:p]
 
charlie, i got that same email and it left me puzzled as to just what that was supposed to mean. if anyone has an explaination of this DFO rating system, i would like to hear how to interpret the numbers. thanks.
 
Almost sounds like a marketing ploy by a lodge to pump up business for next year. With the fishing already lackluster up the coast, a US recession looming and things not especially bright in the Canadian economy, I'm willing to bet the lodges are scrambling to take care of business for next year.

Why exactly would DFO go out of their way to rate areas? And how would they rate the fishing in that area? A boat load of guys from Ontario would probably have a different success rate then a guide who has worked the same area for 20 years.

Something to ask at the SFAB meeting, but sounds like a lodge pumping itself up to keep it's guests coming to me.

Last Chance Fishing Adventures

www.lastchancefishingadventures.com
www.swiftsurebank.com
 
quote:Originally posted by LastChance

Almost sounds like a marketing ploy by a lodge to pump up business for next year. With the fishing already lackluster up the coast, a US recession looming and things not especially bright in the Canadian economy, I'm willing to bet the lodges are scrambling to take care of business for next year.

Why exactly would DFO go out of their way to rate areas? And how would they rate the fishing in that area? A boat load of guys from Ontario would probably have a different success rate then a guide who has worked the same area for 20 years.

Something to ask at the SFAB meeting, but sounds like a lodge pumping itself up to keep it's guests coming to me.

Last Chance Fishing Adventures

www.lastchancefishingadventures.com
www.swiftsurebank.com

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www.serengetifishingcharters.com
 
quote:Originally posted by SerengetiGuide

quote:Originally posted by LastChance

Almost sounds like a marketing ploy by a lodge to pump up business for next year. With the fishing already lackluster up the coast, a US recession looming and things not especially bright in the Canadian economy, I'm willing to bet the lodges are scrambling to take care of business for next year.

Why exactly would DFO go out of their way to rate areas? And how would they rate the fishing in that area? A boat load of guys from Ontario would probably have a different success rate then a guide who has worked the same area for 20 years.

Something to ask at the SFAB meeting, but sounds like a lodge pumping itself up to keep it's guests coming to me.

Last Chance Fishing Adventures

www.lastchancefishingadventures.com
www.swiftsurebank.com

x2

www.serengetifishingcharters.com


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someone forward me the e-mail please...gotta see this for real

www.coastwidesportsfishing.com
 
I agree!

X4

I have searched DFO and the entire web... and don't have a clue?

Just wanted to know if you guys knew anything about this?
Charlie

PS... I sent you the email I received?
 
OK which lodge-email me the info if you don't want to put it up here.



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quote:Originally posted by reelfast

charlie, i got that same email and it left me puzzled as to just what that was supposed to mean. if anyone has an explaination of this DFO rating system, i would like to hear how to interpret the numbers. thanks.
Me too... if you find anything out let me know?
Thanks
Charlie
 
Here's a link I recieved from a source...

http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/species/salmon/default_e.htm

this is supposed to straighten things out...
I figure it's a stock assesment data rating which in turn could be given certain areas might see more fish than other's.
It is also important to know that the lodge was in no way listed or named in the rating...
Actually, seems like a good marketing tool

www.coastwidesportsfishing.com
 
thank you for that link. unfortunately the lodge person who originally sent that email apparently can't understand numbers!
 
Thanks for the info... Now that I read it, it's clear to me that I can't read! :)

I don't seem to find any data for springs in area 25. Do see WCVI hatchery #39 rated as 2/3 and wild #40 rated as 1. Don't see any specific area on WCVI rated? What am I missing?

Noticed an improvement in most of the Fraser... That is a Good thing!

Would also be interested to find information about area 20 through 24. Especially the Nitinat/Renfrew area? I am really starting to enjoy fishing the later! Guess I am getting to old to keep running my boat up the entire west coast! But it IS such a nice trip! :D
 
Rating system is as follows:
Status
Category
Category
Definition
Criteria Fishery Consequences
1 Stock of
concern

Stock is (or is forecast to be) less
than 25% of target or is
declining rapidly.
Directed fisheries are unlikely and there
may be a requirement to avoid indirect
catch of the stock.
2 Low Stock is (or is forecast to be)
well below target or below target
and declining.
Directed fisheries are uncertain and likely
to be small if permitted. Allocation policy
will determine harvest opportunities.
3 Near Target Stock is (or is forecast to be)
within 25% of target and stable
or increasing.
Directed fisheries subject to allocation
policy.
4 Abundant Stock is (or is forecast to be)
well above target.
Directed fisheries subject to allocation
policy.

WCVI wild is rated as 1, WCVI hatchery is rated 2/3

Management is likely some areas with size restriction of 45 - 77 cm with 2 fish per day limit.

Overall this means we will have a season similar to last. One bonus will be the lower fraser chinook hatchery are rated 3. That will mean we should see a lot more Harrison River white chinook in the WCVI fishery, and they are big strong pigs.
 
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