DFO Announces further SRKW Restrictions
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SpringFever552
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X2 100%
No worries, DFO will have everybody making another last stand next year with another incremental claw back.Wake up for Gods sake, this is the last stand!
Some really excellent, accurate & informative posts on here by Ringo, SV, RT, LC, SS, WMY, WitW, Searun and others.
SH - your last few posts indicated you thought that FNs started and wanted this SRKW process. That suggestion is incorrect and unsupported. All Coastal FNs have substantial commercial fishing interests and licences/boats/quotas. These restrictions affect the commercial salmon fleets, as well.
The history of these SRKW restrictions actually started because Canada didn't want the exported seafood products to be blocked entry into their largest market - the US of A - which restricts imported seafood under their Endangered Species Act if the export Nation doesn't mirror the USA efforts. That's why these maps are stupid. They blindly mirror the NOAA recovery plans 2006 & updated Critical Habitat closures:
www.fisheries.noaa.gov
Then the ENGOs (some of who earn $ off whale watching) got involved in both the USA and Canada and drove the process - and are still driving the process - and stacked the reps on those meetings:
www.islandssounder.com
SH - your last few posts indicated you thought that FNs started and wanted this SRKW process. That suggestion is incorrect and unsupported. All Coastal FNs have substantial commercial fishing interests and licences/boats/quotas. These restrictions affect the commercial salmon fleets, as well.
The history of these SRKW restrictions actually started because Canada didn't want the exported seafood products to be blocked entry into their largest market - the US of A - which restricts imported seafood under their Endangered Species Act if the export Nation doesn't mirror the USA efforts. That's why these maps are stupid. They blindly mirror the NOAA recovery plans 2006 & updated Critical Habitat closures:
Southern Resident Killer Whale Recovery Planning and Implementation
In 2008, NOAA Fisheries developed a final Recovery Plan for Southern Resident killer whales, to identify and address threats to the species. NOAA Fisheries has been working with partners to implement the recovery actions identified in the plan.
Then the ENGOs (some of who earn $ off whale watching) got involved in both the USA and Canada and drove the process - and are still driving the process - and stacked the reps on those meetings:
Federal court rules against NOAA | Islands' Sounder
Submitted by Wild Fish Conservancy.
www.islandssounder.com
ship happens
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Some really excellent, accurate & informative posts on here by Ringo, SV, RT, LC, SS, WMY, WitW, Searun and others.
SH - your last few posts indicated you thought that FNs started and wanted this SRKW process. That suggestion is incorrect and unsupported. All Coastal FNs have substantial commercial fishing interests and licences/boats/quotas. These restrictions affect the commercial salmon fleets, as well.
The history of these SRKW restrictions actually started because Canada didn't want the exported seafood products to be blocked entry into their largest market - the US of A - which restricts imported seafood under their Endangered Species Act if the export Nation doesn't mirror the USA efforts. That's why these maps are stupid. They blindly mirror the NOAA recovery plans 2006 & updated Critical Habitat closures:
Southern Resident Killer Whale Recovery Planning and Implementation
In 2008, NOAA Fisheries developed a final Recovery Plan for Southern Resident killer whales, to identify and address threats to the species. NOAA Fisheries has been working with partners to implement the recovery actions identified in the plan.
Then the ENGOs (some of who earn $ off whale watching) got involved in both the USA and Canada and drove the process - and are still driving the process - and stacked the reps on those meetings:
Federal court rules against NOAA | Islands' Sounder
Submitted by Wild Fish Conservancy.
They said it themselves 2 years ago @agentaqua
Feel free to share any supporting data with everyone on this forum, SH. We all will benefit from accurate and supported perspectives. And this SRKW process started long before 2 years ago (2017/18) - don't forget.
Here's a link to a 20 YO report detailing FN participation in the commercial fisheries - ~30% of salmon fisheries in 2003. I suspect that participation level has increased in the past 20 years - esp in the small boat gillnet fleet, as well as some increases in troll fishery thru the PICFI program:
Pacific Integrated Commercial Fisheries Initiative | Pacific Region | Fisheries and Oceans Canada
Pacific Integrated Commercial Fisheries Initiative
SpringVelocity
Crew Member
Then the ENGOs (some of who earn $ off whale watching) got involved in both the USA and Canada and drove the process - and are still driving the process - and stacked the reps on those meetings:
YEP!@!!!
YEP!@!!!
SpringVelocity
Crew Member
Some really excellent, accurate & informative posts on here by Ringo, SV, RT, LC, SS, WMY, WitW, Searun and others.
SH - your last few posts indicated you thought that FNs started and wanted this SRKW process. That suggestion is incorrect and unsupported. All Coastal FNs have substantial commercial fishing interests and licences/boats/quotas. These restrictions affect the commercial salmon fleets, as well.
The history of these SRKW restrictions actually started because Canada didn't want the exported seafood products to be blocked entry into their largest market - the US of A - which restricts imported seafood under their Endangered Species Act if the export Nation doesn't mirror the USA efforts. That's why these maps are stupid. They blindly mirror the NOAA recovery plans 2006 & updated Critical Habitat closures:
Southern Resident Killer Whale Recovery Planning and Implementation
In 2008, NOAA Fisheries developed a final Recovery Plan for Southern Resident killer whales, to identify and address threats to the species. NOAA Fisheries has been working with partners to implement the recovery actions identified in the plan.
Then the ENGOs (some of who earn $ off whale watching) got involved in both the USA and Canada and drove the process - and are still driving the process - and stacked the reps on those meetings:
Federal court rules against NOAA | Islands' Sounder
Submitted by Wild Fish Conservancy.
Thanks for posting this. Great info.
not sure if this has been posted yet or not - also good background:
www.squamishchief.com
Opinion: Saving the Whales? Capture and fishy business in the Department of Fisheries and Oceans
The recreational fishery is demonstrably not the problem.
www.squamishchief.com
wildmanyeah
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any number of catch is simply too high for the ENGOs, whatever you cut the next year they will just write a letter asking you to cut again until you are closed at what point they will move onto the next thing.
you get into bed with them, don't be surprised when they **** on your side
The SRKW stuff mostly got pushed over TMX and now is being used to shut down rec fishing and trying to stop the port expansions.
you get into bed with them, don't be surprised when they **** on your side
The SRKW stuff mostly got pushed over TMX and now is being used to shut down rec fishing and trying to stop the port expansions.
wildmanyeah
Crew Member
my understanding is the SRKW closures mostly don't effects commercial fishing. recs had closures during sockeye and will this year during pinks and commercial fishing will be able to use these areas.
I think the argument is they can simply time commercial openings when the whales are not their. Thats aslest what DFO told us in a meeting as rational as why we were closed and commercial fishing were seining in the area.
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No recreational and commercial salmon fishing from first confirmed Southern Resident Killer Whale detection to october 31, 2022:
Monitoring and closure period for salmon fisheries closure protocol in the southern Gulf Islands based on Southern Resident killer whale presence | Pacific Region | Fisheries and Oceans Canada
Monitoring and closure period for salmon fisheries closure protocol in the southern Gulf Islands based on Southern Resident killer whale presence
wildmanyeah
Crew Member
No recreational and commercial salmon fishing from first confirmed Southern Resident Killer Whale detection to october 31, 2022:
Monitoring and closure period for salmon fisheries closure protocol in the southern Gulf Islands based on Southern Resident killer whale presence | Pacific Region | Fisheries and Oceans Canada
Monitoring and closure period for salmon fisheries closure protocol in the southern Gulf Islands based on Southern Resident killer whale presencewww.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca
I know there is links that say that but simple did not happen in the Vancouver area SRKW closures
ship happens
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10. Southern Resident Killer Whales – Management Measures to Address Reduced Prey Availability, and Physical and Acoustic Disturbance
The Government of Canada, together with Indigenous groups, partners, and stakeholders, continues to take important steps to protect and recover the Southern Resident Killer Whales (listed as Endangered under the Species at Risk Act). Given the status of the population and ongoing threats to Southern Resident Killer Whale recovery, Canada has implemented a number of enhanced measures starting in 2018, aimed at increasing prey availability and accessibility for Southern Resident Killer Whales, particularly with respect to Chinook salmon, and reducing threats related to physical and acoustic disturbance in key foraging areas within Southern Resident Killer Whale critical habitat.
For 2023, the Government of Canada will be reviewing the suite of management measures implemented in 2022 and will be discussing potential adjustments to measures with Indigenous groups, the Southern Resident Killer Whale Indigenous and Multi-Stakeholder Advisory Group, Technical Working Groups, and with key stakeholders. Canada intends to ensure that any updates to actions for the 2023 season can be implemented by spring 2023 to coincide with the return of Southern Resident Killer Whales in typically greater numbers to the Salish Sea. If you have any questions, please contact the Marine Mammal Team at DFO.SRKW-ERS.MPO@dfo-mpo.gc.ca.
The Government of Canada, together with Indigenous groups, partners, and stakeholders, continues to take important steps to protect and recover the Southern Resident Killer Whales (listed as Endangered under the Species at Risk Act). Given the status of the population and ongoing threats to Southern Resident Killer Whale recovery, Canada has implemented a number of enhanced measures starting in 2018, aimed at increasing prey availability and accessibility for Southern Resident Killer Whales, particularly with respect to Chinook salmon, and reducing threats related to physical and acoustic disturbance in key foraging areas within Southern Resident Killer Whale critical habitat.
For 2023, the Government of Canada will be reviewing the suite of management measures implemented in 2022 and will be discussing potential adjustments to measures with Indigenous groups, the Southern Resident Killer Whale Indigenous and Multi-Stakeholder Advisory Group, Technical Working Groups, and with key stakeholders. Canada intends to ensure that any updates to actions for the 2023 season can be implemented by spring 2023 to coincide with the return of Southern Resident Killer Whales in typically greater numbers to the Salish Sea. If you have any questions, please contact the Marine Mammal Team at DFO.SRKW-ERS.MPO@dfo-mpo.gc.ca.
Hmmm... not saying what you are claiming is inaccurate - just trying to sess out the details.
Are you claiming that all of the trollers and the seine/gill net fleets prosecuted fisheries in the times/places that were closed to other fisheries for SRKW near Vancouver (Areas 28/29? marine verses inriver)? Were all those subareas in 28/29 even a SRKW closure area? I also thought that last year Fraser sockeye stayed closed until late in the season for the commercial fisheries...
Here's the official closures that all commercial boats have to follow:
2024 management measures to protect Southern Resident killer whales | Pacific Region | Fisheries and Oceans Canada
2024 management measures to protect Southern Resident killer whales
Interim Order for the Protection of the Killer Whale (Orcinus orca) in the Waters of Southern British Columbia, 2024
Interim Order for the Protection of Killer Whales (Orcinus orca) in the Waters of Southern British Columbia
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So, we (myself & WMY) sorted out the commercial non closure post #213. It is only that teeny-tiny yellow square that is the SRKW closure near the mouth of the Fraser in Area 29-3 where fishing is not allowed by all fleets including the commercial fleet - while the remainder of Area 29-3 is open:
wildmanyeah
Crew Member
the new "status quo" option
also tell someone in a tinny coming out of the north arm that area is tiny tiny i dont no if they would agree
also tell someone in a tinny coming out of the north arm that area is tiny tiny i dont no if they would agree
ship happens
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We knowSo, we (myself & WMY) sorted out the commercial non closure post #213. It is only that teeny-tiny yellow square that is the SRKW closure near the mouth of the Fraser in Area 29-3 where fishing is not allowed by all fleets including the commercial fleet - while the remainder of Area 29-3 is open:
OldBlackDog
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And David Suzuki just brew you all under the bus on the news.
So, when are the SRKW considered to be recovered?
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