well i have to say thanx to blue for all the tips, because they paid off! we fished from 7-945 at deepwater bay and nailed 6 and lost 5(one wasa good 15 pounds too) pink/blue, pink/black, and black/purple apexs all were good. a blue spin n glo added to the front of the hootchies also worked. those chums sure fight well too! got a 12 pounder that felt like a 16-18 pound spring would. great weather, great fishing! saw a ton of boats at plumper so that must have been even better.