Aquaculture; improving????

It's going the way I figured it'd go 4-5 years ago - politically. As I posted at: https://sportfishingbc.com/conversations/congratulations.96716/#convMessage-128178

maybe. maybe ill live long enough to see a transition. maybe not. Sometimes things happen quicker than one ever thought possible. Sometimes it is all smoke and mirrors. Politics is a funny monster. That's why I see how democracy, or consensus-based governance - as opposed to our current form of corruption that we like to pretend is democracy - is the only sustainable way forward. This clip reminds me of politician decisions:

Politicians - they are at least predictable.
 
The transition plan will be that the farms stay where there is FN support . They are setting themselves up for a major payout if the gov closes them...... bur the way ths liberals are throwing around billions.... who knows.
 
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Some rather obvious disingenuous half-truths & misdirection in that document in just a cursory look and critique:

P.1-10 Fig. 5: "Prior to transfer fish are screened for potential diseases". Prior to transfer fish are screened for some CFIA-acknowledged reportable diseases, but not PRv & Tenacibaculum & other disease vectors; and even the presence of PRv doesn't disqualify from stocking them out in the very open net-pens, neither. That was the basis of these court actions:





P.1-11 Fig. 6, Seawater Pens Points 8 thru 13. They only look after FARMED fish health not the adjacent WILD salmon; and all those wonderful records are protected by the Privacy Act, apparently - as far as DFO is concerned.

P.1-12: "Very little is known about the mechanisms that control Pacific salmon abundances in the ocean". OMFG! Maybe the BCSFA doesn't know much - doesn't mean the rest of us are as disinterested and uninformed. No talk about Ocean Survival Rates and how the ONP industry affects this neither.

P.1-17: "It takes about 1.15 to 1.2 kilograms of feed to produce 1 kilogram of farm-raised salmon". It takes about 1.15 to 1.2 kilograms of DRY feed made up of ~4.5 kg of WET feed products to produce 1 kilogram of WET farm-raised salmon.

P.1-18: "Once operational, farms must follow all laws to protect fish, fish habitat and wildlife.". Except of course DFO doesn't force them to protect critical nearshore rearing habitat for juvenile salmon - something that Cohen forced on them in the Discovery Islands.

Only 18 pages in and I've had enuff of this PR piece. You get the idea, anyways.
 
Some rather obvious disingenuous half-truths & misdirection in that document in just a cursory look and critique:

P.1-10 Fig. 5: "Prior to transfer fish are screened for potential diseases". Prior to transfer fish are screened for some CFIA-acknowledged reportable diseases, but not PRv & Tenacibaculum & other disease vectors; and even the presence of PRv doesn't disqualify from stocking them out in the very open net-pens, neither. That was the basis of these court actions:





P.1-11 Fig. 6, Seawater Pens Points 8 thru 13. They only look after FARMED fish health not the adjacent WILD salmon; and all those wonderful records are protected by the Privacy Act, apparently - as far as DFO is concerned.

P.1-12: "Very little is known about the mechanisms that control Pacific salmon abundances in the ocean". OMFG! Maybe the BCSFA doesn't know much - doesn't mean the rest of us are as disinterested and uninformed. No talk about Ocean Survival Rates and how the ONP industry affects this neither.

P.1-17: "It takes about 1.15 to 1.2 kilograms of feed to produce 1 kilogram of farm-raised salmon". It takes about 1.15 to 1.2 kilograms of DRY feed made up of ~4.5 kg of WET feed products to produce 1 kilogram of WET farm-raised salmon.

P.1-18: "Once operational, farms must follow all laws to protect fish, fish habitat and wildlife.". Except of course DFO doesn't force them to protect critical nearshore rearing habitat for juvenile salmon - something that Cohen forced on them in the Discovery Islands.

Only 18 pages in and I've had enuff of this PR piece. You get the idea, anyways.
You never even mention the 51 million per year that these five nations are getting, where is that evident? Would that not be like a million or more per family after 20 years? There is no money trail at all.

Is there any evidence of these kinds of fish farms 100 years ago? There were a couple of smaller operations around for quite awhile, family operations but when corporate greed MOWI gets involved the only share holders count, they are not beholding to anything but making the buck.

Was there any mention of antibiotics? My brother worked in a fish feed plant, they added antibiotics in massive amounts, tons and giga litres. They also had to wear special protection.

Now the FF will prey on "we are feeding the world" and expect all the good Canadians to sacrifice the wild stocks for the greater good.
 
It guess you could argue that they, the Icelandic, have been the stewards of the salmon there, even if only for just over 1000 years.

Has anyone ever tested salmon from the store for toxins? Or other impurities that would not be found in wild salmon?
 
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It guess you could argue that they, the Icelandic, have been the stewards of the salmon there, even if only for just over 1000 years.

Has anyone ever tested salmon from the store for toxins? Or other impurities that would not be found in wild salmon?
Bit of a Pandora's box there, as well. Short version: Yes and yes. Roughly double or more the contaminants in farmed fish on average:



 
Bit of a Pandora's box there, as well. Short version: Yes and yes. Roughly double or more the contaminants in farmed fish on average:



I read the contamination report.
Have there been any others?

I also saw that the tests were skin on. Now Atlantic salmon are sold skinless. I wonder if that was an attempt to lower levels of contamination.

But it does point to a potential increase of cancer risk. Certainly for people that salmon is a regular meal
 

As open-net farming ban looms, B.C. salmon farmers ask federal government to release transition plans​

JAMIE MAH
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The Okisollo fish farm near Campbell River, B.C. on Oct. 31, 2018.JONATHAN HAYWARD/THE CANADIAN PRESS
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Fish farmers in British Columbia are asking the federal government to either extend a deadline that will end the practice of open-net salmon farming, forcing their businesses to close, or to release a transition plan to ensure operators know what their future holds.
Open-net farms, in which salmon are raised in nets or cages that are placed in offshore waters, were due to be phased out by next year, in keeping with a promise Prime Minister Justin Trudeau made during the 2019 election campaign over concerns the farms were hazardous to the health of wild fish stocks.
But last June, Ottawa shelved the release of a draft transition plan toward land-based production. Then last month Fisheries Minister Diane Lebouthillier said her government is “not shutting down any more farms” for now. Environmentalists have been critical about the government’s delay, and the mixed messages have left fish-farm operators unsure about whether their businesses can continue to operate.
Of 85 salmon farms operating along B.C.’s west coast, 66 of them are seeking renewals of licences that expire June 30, industry representatives say.
“It’s a foundation of my community,” said Isaiah Robinson, deputy chief of the Kitasoo Xai’xias Nation and a member of the Coalition of First Nations for Finfish Stewardship. Shutting down the fish farms “would completely cause major destruction.”
In the early 1970s, his community had an employment rate of 5 per cent, Mr. Robinson said. That’s now at 99 per cent, with more than half of that based on the farm operated by the Kitasoo Development Corporation on behalf of Mowi, a Norwegian company. “This has taken us out of poverty.”
In a statement, Athina Vazeos, a spokesperson for DFO, said consultations wrapped up a month ago, but no decisions have been made about the 66 licences.
Brian Kingzett, executive director of the BC Salmon Farmers Association, said he would like to see an extension and/or a defined transition plan from the DFO.
His organization has partnered with the Coalition of First Nations for Finfish Stewardship to compile a 500-page report to bolster their argument that fish farms are a vital employer of Indigenous and rural British Columbians and that the decision to shut the farms down is based on outdated information.
“Some of our communities have noticed knowledge or information gaps regarding modern salmon farming,” said Dallas Smith, a spokesman for the coalition and a member of the Tlowitsis Nation.

For example, the farms have been blamed for enabling the proliferation of sea lice on wild salmon, endangering the Pacific species. But, the report states, there has been significant advances in understanding and managing sea lice and tens of millions of dollars has been poured into research, leading to changed practices.
One recent survey of data compiled from DFO and university researchers, salmon farmers and several non-governmental organizations found that 86 per cent of all sampled salmon had none or just one sea louse.
“This is a new sector, and it is changing rapidly. It is innovating rapidly. And some of the arguments that we see in the press, we see activists using on their social media, are things that have been corrected, both in regulation and innovation and progress,” Mr. Kingzett said.
However, opponents of fish farming in British Columbia say the report, entitled Modern Salmon Farming in B.C.: A Review, lacks credibility.
First Nations chiefs urge Trudeau to step in to phase out salmon farms
Bob Chamberlin, chairman of the First Nation Wild Salmon Alliance, said the review is another example of fish farmers marking their own homework.
“To me, it’s just another obfuscation that everything’s okay. We need independent review, we need independent analysis,” he said.
Mr. Chamberlin worries pro-farming reviews such as the recent report could sway the Department of Fisheries and Oceans into granting licence extensions past 2025.
“It’s really troubling to see that a small group of First Nations with the backing of an international company are going to be listened to more than the aboriginal rights and the majority of First Nations in B.C.”
In 2018, Mr. Chamberlin led a group opposing open-net fish farms and won an agreement with the B.C. government and the aquaculture industry to remove 10 of 17 fish farms in the Broughton Archipelago off the north coast of Vancouver Island. They were closed by 2022. Then, on March 7, 2023, the ‘Namgis, Kwikwasut’inuxw Haxwa’mis and Mamalilikulla First Nations (the Broughton First Nations), decided they wanted the remaining seven farms, of which they retained occupational control, closed as well.
According to the fish farmers’ report, as of February 2022 the sector directly or indirectly employs 700 Indigenous workers and has provided $42-million to Indigenous communities every year.
“For most of these communities, those benefits cannot be replaced, and the threat of losing them via government closures is a real threat to their social safety,” the report states.
 

As open-net farming ban looms, B.C. salmon farmers ask federal government to release transition plans​

JAMIE MAH
VANCOUVFER
PUBLISHED 7 HOURS AGO
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The Okisollo fish farm near Campbell River, B.C. on Oct. 31, 2018.JONATHAN HAYWARD/THE CANADIAN PRESS
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Fish farmers in British Columbia are asking the federal government to either extend a deadline that will end the practice of open-net salmon farming, forcing their businesses to close, or to release a transition plan to ensure operators know what their future holds.
Open-net farms, in which salmon are raised in nets or cages that are placed in offshore waters, were due to be phased out by next year, in keeping with a promise Prime Minister Justin Trudeau made during the 2019 election campaign over concerns the farms were hazardous to the health of wild fish stocks.
But last June, Ottawa shelved the release of a draft transition plan toward land-based production. Then last month Fisheries Minister Diane Lebouthillier said her government is “not shutting down any more farms” for now. Environmentalists have been critical about the government’s delay, and the mixed messages have left fish-farm operators unsure about whether their businesses can continue to operate.
Of 85 salmon farms operating along B.C.’s west coast, 66 of them are seeking renewals of licences that expire June 30, industry representatives say.
“It’s a foundation of my community,” said Isaiah Robinson, deputy chief of the Kitasoo Xai’xias Nation and a member of the Coalition of First Nations for Finfish Stewardship. Shutting down the fish farms “would completely cause major destruction.”
In the early 1970s, his community had an employment rate of 5 per cent, Mr. Robinson said. That’s now at 99 per cent, with more than half of that based on the farm operated by the Kitasoo Development Corporation on behalf of Mowi, a Norwegian company. “This has taken us out of poverty.”
In a statement, Athina Vazeos, a spokesperson for DFO, said consultations wrapped up a month ago, but no decisions have been made about the 66 licences.
Brian Kingzett, executive director of the BC Salmon Farmers Association, said he would like to see an extension and/or a defined transition plan from the DFO.
His organization has partnered with the Coalition of First Nations for Finfish Stewardship to compile a 500-page report to bolster their argument that fish farms are a vital employer of Indigenous and rural British Columbians and that the decision to shut the farms down is based on outdated information.
“Some of our communities have noticed knowledge or information gaps regarding modern salmon farming,” said Dallas Smith, a spokesman for the coalition and a member of the Tlowitsis Nation.

For example, the farms have been blamed for enabling the proliferation of sea lice on wild salmon, endangering the Pacific species. But, the report states, there has been significant advances in understanding and managing sea lice and tens of millions of dollars has been poured into research, leading to changed practices.
One recent survey of data compiled from DFO and university researchers, salmon farmers and several non-governmental organizations found that 86 per cent of all sampled salmon had none or just one sea louse.
“This is a new sector, and it is changing rapidly. It is innovating rapidly. And some of the arguments that we see in the press, we see activists using on their social media, are things that have been corrected, both in regulation and innovation and progress,” Mr. Kingzett said.
However, opponents of fish farming in British Columbia say the report, entitled Modern Salmon Farming in B.C.: A Review, lacks credibility.
First Nations chiefs urge Trudeau to step in to phase out salmon farms
Bob Chamberlin, chairman of the First Nation Wild Salmon Alliance, said the review is another example of fish farmers marking their own homework.
“To me, it’s just another obfuscation that everything’s okay. We need independent review, we need independent analysis,” he said.
Mr. Chamberlin worries pro-farming reviews such as the recent report could sway the Department of Fisheries and Oceans into granting licence extensions past 2025.
“It’s really troubling to see that a small group of First Nations with the backing of an international company are going to be listened to more than the aboriginal rights and the majority of First Nations in B.C.”
In 2018, Mr. Chamberlin led a group opposing open-net fish farms and won an agreement with the B.C. government and the aquaculture industry to remove 10 of 17 fish farms in the Broughton Archipelago off the north coast of Vancouver Island. They were closed by 2022. Then, on March 7, 2023, the ‘Namgis, Kwikwasut’inuxw Haxwa’mis and Mamalilikulla First Nations (the Broughton First Nations), decided they wanted the remaining seven farms, of which they retained occupational control, closed as well.
According to the fish farmers’ report, as of February 2022 the sector directly or indirectly employs 700 Indigenous workers and has provided $42-million to Indigenous communities every year.
“For most of these communities, those benefits cannot be replaced, and the threat of losing them via government closures is a real threat to their social safety,” the report states.
Barf!
 
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