Are you suggesting that those lice were planted by AI?
Aquaculture improving?..The Fish Farm Thread
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wildmanyeah
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Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence
“….In various stages of development” I can count roughly a hundred on the side in the picture and likely the other side will be the same. Real pictures don’t lie.
Doubt is the commodity sold by the PR firms employed by the industry; & individuals within both DFO Stock Assistance & the ONPSF industry find it hard to admit they are part of a industry that has real-life impacts to wild salmon as most of those employees (with a few exceptions) are generally well-intended folks. Those well-intended folks usually suffer from cognitive dissonance and try to find a way to discount reality that conflicts with their beliefs; while the PR firms & the DFO comms branch get paid to lie. Money seems to overcome any doubts they have.
WRT that pic - seeing lice on a wild outmigrating smolt is not "extraordinary", but the sheer number of lice might be.
From what I can tell by looking at a 2D pic of a 3D container - it looks like a larger (~90+ mm) Chinook smolt to me that has turned his/her caudal fin up & to the left while swimming - it's doesn't look quite as "eroded" to me as it appears, but the bottom corner could be. The scales are missing off the top back end of the smolt - where most of the motile lice are eating the scales off the body of the smolt. The so-termed trailing "erosion" of said fins looks more like trailing mucus. Fish produce more quantities of mucus when they are stressed - and both capture & the motile lice are stressors.
I can easily identify ~40 motile pre-adult stages of lice on one side - and the earlier, darker lice are most probably Leps; while the later settled pinkish ones on the front are more likely Caligus. W/o magnification - it is difficult to spot the Chalmus & copepod stages - that are usually more numerous than the preadult stages because not all of them survive to the later stages of development.
So, yes this poor fish could have ~100 lice on each side or ~200 lice in total of all species & stages. One has to look at the developmental rate of the sea lice to infer when & possibly where these lice loadings happened.
It's a dead fish swimming as the numbers of (motile) lice per gram of fish that can cause mortality are in the range of 0.7 – 1.6 lice per gram of fish - dependent upon study, species & life history stage of the lice.
Why Are B.C. Salmon Farms Hiding Their Lice Numbers?
B.C. salmon farms are pulling back lice reporting, raising risks for wild salmon and reducing public transparency.
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SpringFever2359
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Nope
Lice could have easily been put in the container same way as they dropped the smolt in, maybe even a person placing lice on the smolt before putting in that container, not putting it past any anti anything to do what they think is necessary to shut down whatever they are protesting,
never heard this saying?!
always 3 sides to a story, side 1 and then side 2, then there's side 3 the truth!
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SpringFever2359
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Wrong again aa, I have zero skin in the game, not a paid anti flunky like some,
the sky is not falling these days because of ff
Your quote "This poor fish" smh
salmonkiller01
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The creepiest part about all this is no matter what the science says one way or another. It’s whoever is filling the pockets of the politicians gets their way.
If Dfo truly cared about wild salmon, they would’ve listened to the Cohen commission 10 years ago
Instead, they make announcements and then don’t keep their promise get their pockets lined everything gets extended…
Open that fish farms have the option to have containment in the ocean however they just refuse to bear the cost
If Dfo truly cared about wild salmon, they would’ve listened to the Cohen commission 10 years ago
Instead, they make announcements and then don’t keep their promise get their pockets lined everything gets extended…
Open that fish farms have the option to have containment in the ocean however they just refuse to bear the cost
I wasn't referencing you, SF, mostly because I never took your previous post seriously. And I've fought some hard-left ENGO "flunkies" (esp. IFAW, SSS & others) since circa 1982.
And I stand by my remarks I made above in post #3564.
However, I might change my mind if you send me an edited video of of you typing away at ENGOs - you may garner more people to your side of the argument that way.
SpringFever2359
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@agentaqua
[/QUOTE] So, yes this poor fish could have ~100 lice on each side or ~200 lice in total of all species & stages. One has to look at the developmental rate of the sea lice to infer when & POSSIBLY where these lice loadings happened [/QUOTE]
In your honest opinion and with your seemed expertise on the subject, do you actually believe that picture is real with up to 200 lice on it?
[/QUOTE] So, yes this poor fish could have ~100 lice on each side or ~200 lice in total of all species & stages. One has to look at the developmental rate of the sea lice to infer when & POSSIBLY where these lice loadings happened [/QUOTE]
In your honest opinion and with your seemed expertise on the subject, do you actually believe that picture is real with up to 200 lice on it?
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