Aquaculture improving?..The Fish Farm Thread

SpringFever552 said:
Sooo, because you dont agree , its fake?
Looks like they spell out in detail "who they" are...
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The answer to your question should have been self-explanatory, SF.

If a letter purports to represent someone - they should sign-off on it. Open letters are posted all the time in the news on a number of issues. And every credible one has the people(s) that letter is purported to represent sign-off on it. Pretty simple. Pretty self-explanatory.

So why not - in this case? Raises questions about the authenticity of whom the letter purports to represent. Does this letter actually represent the views of the communities it states to represent? Why did representatives not sign-off BEFORE it was published? Why is the area where signatures go blank? Is this instead just a media trick from a PR firm that is instead just total BS? Zero credibility unless the accredited community reps sign off on it.

I am sure if you wrote a letter to the editor you would sign-off on it wouldn't you, SF? They prob wouldn't even publish it unless you did, right? I believe they teach this stuff in communications in High School, even.

Kinda like SeaWest News is NOT actually a news outlet, but the owner of that PR firm wants you to believe it is by calling it "news". PR firms always take advantage of people, and their often lack of understanding of how credibility is generated in any professional/scientific sense.

And here's an example of a credible, accountable, professional open letter that has been signed off:
www.ubcic.bc.ca

OPEN LETTER: Fisheries and Oceans Canada’s (DFO) Policy Not to Test for the Piscine Orthorevirus (PRV) Before Transferring Atlantic Salmon to the Open-Net Fish Farms (the PRV Policy)

Working towards the recognition, implementation and exercise of our inherent Indigenous Title, Rights and Treaty Rights
www.ubcic.bc.ca www.ubcic.bc.ca
 
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Thanks for that stark comparison, WMY. The PR people behind that group do a great job of producing a colour brochure - but they apparently don't know how to get signatures on a simple letter - or maybe simply can't because they really don't represent the all or any of the communities they claim to represent.
 
Unfortunately, some activists have selectively chosen content out of context as an opportunity to pit Nations against one other to suit the needs of their agenda and stir up further contention within our communities. To outsiders and well-funded activists, UNDRIP and self-determination only apply to First Nations that align with their goals, and their never-ending pressure on governments to deprive our Nations of the right to pursue salmon farming puts our communities at risk.


Leaders in this coalition have experienced the devastation that poverty can cause their members, with high unemployment, addiction, and suicide. Salmon farming has lifted entire coastal Indigenous communities out of poverty, creating meaningful, year-round jobs, providing opportunities for First Nations-owned business to supply the sector, and funding projects that increase the health and resilience of communities, as well as wild salmon through conservation projects.

As coastal First Nations, the protection of wild salmon is our priority, and we would not put centuries of stewardship at risk for short-term gains. The ongoing development of relationships with the sector has seen First Nations taking on governance roles that has resulted in oversight of salmon farming within their traditional territories, which is true reconciliation in action. Some of our Nations are already conducting oversight with environmental monitoring and Guardian programs.

By managing the waters and its resources which we have overseen for millennia, coastal First Nations are positioned to lead Canada’s Blue Economy, encourage new investment and innovation, create good jobs for our members, and work together to recover from the socio-economic impacts of the pandemic.


We can only fulfill that potential if the governments of Canada and B.C. hear our voices over the noise of others, re-issue the licences in our territories, and help our Nations achieve economic self-determination, as is our sovereign right. That is how you practice true reconciliation.

Dallas Smith

Spokesperson for the coalition of First Nations for Finfish Stewardship

Tlowitsis Nation
 
As coastal First Nations, the protection of wild salmon is our priority, and we would not put centuries of stewardship at risk for short-term gains. The ongoing development of relationships with the sector has seen First Nations taking on governance roles that has resulted in oversight of salmon farming within their traditional territories, which is true reconciliation in action. Some of our Nations are already conducting oversight with environmental monitoring and Guardian programs.
I wonder if they do this”environmental monitoring “ themselves or hire independent third parties? Do they make the findings available to other interested parties?
 
Thanks for the opportunity to explain and dive into representation, accountability and how to write a letter, WMY.

I think Dallas can legitimately claim to be the Spokesperson for the coalition of First Nations for Finfish Stewardship (altho he did not sign off on that letter, neither), as well as the President and Chairman of the Board of the Nanwakolas Council Society and Nanwakolas Business Corp. He is not a rep for any of the communities listed as being part of the First Nations for Finfish Stewardship, as far as I am aware. I am assuming that the Nanwakolas Business Corp. has an IBA with MOWI, and those benefits include financial ones that likely pay (in part or whole) the salaries of those whom work at the Nanwakolas Business Corp. including board members.

Dallas's Brother John is "Chief-For-Life" for the Ma'amtagila Nation who opposed the application for the new fish farm:

and just to reiterate: NO REPS SIGNED OFF ON THE LETTER.
 
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terrin said:
As coastal First Nations, the protection of wild salmon is our priority, and we would not put centuries of stewardship at risk for short-term gains. The ongoing development of relationships with the sector has seen First Nations taking on governance roles that has resulted in oversight of salmon farming within their traditional territories, which is true reconciliation in action. Some of our Nations are already conducting oversight with environmental monitoring and Guardian programs.
I wonder if they do this”environmental monitoring “ themselves or hire independent third parties? Do they make the findings available to other interested parties?
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Good questions, Terrin. As I posted previously - UNLIKE commercial fishing Conditions of Licence - the aquaculture CoLs do NOT require independent 3rd party monitoring. And disease outbreaks are routinely hidden and no real-time notification w geographic co-ordinates are ever given to the public because embarrasing info may be developed like the PRv/HMSI link, or any number of negative interactions.
 
agentaqua said:
Thanks for the opportunity to explain and dive into representation, accountability and how to write a letter, WMY.

I think Dallas can legitimately claim to be the Spokesperson for the coalition of First Nations for Finfish Stewardship (altho he did not sign off on that letter, neither), as well as the President and Chairman of the Board of the Nanwakolas Council Society and Nanwakolas Business Corp. He is not a rep for any of the communities listed as being part of the First Nations for Finfish Stewardship. I am assuming that the Nanwakolas Business Corp. has an IBA with MOWI, and those benefits include financial ones that pay (in part or whole) the salaries of those whom work at the Nanwakolas Business Corp. including board members.

Dallas's Brother John is "Chief-For-Life" for the Ma'amtagila Nation who opposed the application for the new fish farm:

and just to reiterate: NO REPS SIGNED OFF ON THE LETTER.
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"Unfortunately, some activists have selectively chosen content out of context as an opportunity to pit Nations against one other to suit the needs of their agenda and stir up further contention within our communities. To outsiders and well-funded activists, UNDRIP and self-determination only apply to First Nations that align with their goals, and their never-ending pressure on governments to deprive our Nations of the right to pursue salmon farming puts our communities at risk."

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Read an editorial in the Province today by Craig Orr to understand what a disaster Fish Farms are to our wild salmon.
Its time to remove them from the ocean and put them on land.
 
Those evil "activists" whom are critical of the aquaculture industry are definitely not the only group whom plays one group against another. Both industry and the government both do that - as can be seen in the Tlowitsis/Ma’a̱mtagila situation; or pretty much everything DFO and the feds do. DFO pits not only 1 FN against another; but Sporties against commercial against FNs. The new Coalition of First Nations for Finfish Stewardship is not the only nor the first nor will it be the last group to notice that.
 
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www.cpac.ca

First Nations Coalition Calls for Renewal of Salmon Farming Licences

At a news conference on Parliament Hill, the coalition of First Nations for Finfish Stewardship (FNFFS) from coastal British Columbia calls on the federal government to re-issue licenses for regions that choose to pursue salmon fishing. Speaking to reporters are Dallas Smith (spokesperson for...
www.cpac.ca www.cpac.ca

First Nations Coalition Calls for Renewal of Salmon Farming Licences
At a news conference on Parliament Hill, the coalition of First Nations for Finfish Stewardship (FNFFS) from coastal British Columbia calls on the federal government to re-issue licenses for regions that choose to pursue salmon fishing. Speaking to reporters are Dallas Smith (spokesperson for the coalition), Isiah Robinson (chief of the Kitasoo Xai’xais First Nation), and Leslie Walkus (councillor of the Gwa’sala-’Nakwaxda’xw First Nation). The members also outline their concerns that their rights and economic decisions for their communities are being ignored, and they discuss their recent socio-economic report which highlights the potential impacts to several B.C. communities if the licences are not renewed. (March 30, 2022) (No interpretation)
 
wildmanyeah said:
www.cpac.ca

First Nations Coalition Calls for Renewal of Salmon Farming Licences

At a news conference on Parliament Hill, the coalition of First Nations for Finfish Stewardship (FNFFS) from coastal British Columbia calls on the federal government to re-issue licenses for regions that choose to pursue salmon fishing. Speaking to reporters are Dallas Smith (spokesperson for...
www.cpac.ca www.cpac.ca

First Nations Coalition Calls for Renewal of Salmon Farming Licences
At a news conference on Parliament Hill, the coalition of First Nations for Finfish Stewardship (FNFFS) from coastal British Columbia calls on the federal government to re-issue licenses for regions that choose to pursue salmon fishing. Speaking to reporters are Dallas Smith (spokesperson for the coalition), Isiah Robinson (chief of the Kitasoo Xai’xais First Nation), and Leslie Walkus (councillor of the Gwa’sala-’Nakwaxda’xw First Nation). The members also outline their concerns that their rights and economic decisions for their communities are being ignored, and they discuss their recent socio-economic report which highlights the potential impacts to several B.C. communities if the licences are not renewed. (March 30, 2022) (No interpretation)
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The only way this will stop is MONEY.

FN will have their way and no one can stop this. The Liberal and NDP governments will ensure this.

If YOU can find jobs to replace the ones in Salmon Farming, then you might stop it.

You need to find a way to make this work using the present open pen system because the FN want and need the jobs.

This will be exactly as the nets in the Fraser, it will NEVER stop until the fish are gone or you pay the FN not to fish.
 
agentaqua said:
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We are grateful for fieldwork help from The David Suzuki Foundation, Alexandra Morton, Jodi Campbell, Amber Stroeder, Kiran Wadhawan, Emma Atkinson, Clare Atkinson, and Luke Rogers in addition to the staff and volunteers of the Salmon Coast Field Station, and Michael Staniewski, Andrew Long, and Karia Kaukinen who helped in the laboratory. This work received 2 years of fieldwork assistance from the Sea Shepherd Conservation Society and their research vessel the Martin Sheen, and we are grateful for the help and support of the crew, in particular, Marc Archambault and Francois Martin for captaining the vessel, and Carolina Castro and Eva Hidalgo for coordinating sampling trips.
 
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