Two things...
1. You write very detailed and well thought out responses. I appreciate that!
2. How damn tall are you?! . I’m 6’5” so I know the struggle
2021 JaxonCraft Build Thread
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1. You write very detailed and well thought out responses. I appreciate that!
2. How damn tall are you?! . I’m 6’5” so I know the struggle
1. Thank You. I bore people professionaly for a living through my report writing.
2. I am 6'4 with a 32 inch inseam and 38 inch shirt sleeves. Sort of a freak of nature egonomically . Car sunroofs are the Devil's work
We saw his boat ! It is spectacular. Feel free to post up a photo of it on this thread.
kaelc
Well-Known Member
Sounds amazing. Why did you go for 9’4” for the beam? I was trying to figure the next best towing width to 8’6” and couldn’t find a good answer. 10’6” may allow towing with a basic permit but over (11′ 6″) wide you will be required to have 1 front pilot car. The extra width is definitely worth it, good call on going over 8’6”.Just heard from Robert. Our build will start this Thursday.
Robert will be sending me a lot of photos during the build which I will post up.
The draught is 21" with engines up and 38" with the engines down (25" shafts)
The Beam is 9'4" and the height is 13'6"
LOA with motors up to the tip of the anchor will be 32-33 feet
Weight of the boat with motors, fuel (125 gallons) and 4 people will be in the range of 7500 pounds.
Are you doing a larger table and an offset door or straight down the middle?
Sounds a little light on the weight estimate if you are adding head, galley, water etc? Our 25.5 loa Fiberglass C-Doty with a 150 and 9.9, 100 gallons comes in at close to that weight. Its amazing how quick anchors, electronics, windlass etc add up in weight.
The wider longer hull was to the best of my knowledge first built for ReelSlim. I never thought about trailering the boat. I drive a sedan and my wife has a unibody mid size SUV so trailering was never an option. I just agreed with what Robert suggested.
We are having a porta potti in the v-birth and a folding table outside the back wall of the cabin, I am not sure what it will look like..
We are getting a longer v birth but no sink or galley, The weight I mentioneed was for the bare hull. I am thinking all up we will be about 7500 to 8000 pounds. We were talking about more of a galley today and I will ask Robert if it will work and the cost.
Flat floor up to the V birth
Centre door
bryce
Crew Member
My last 3 boats have had sinks and cooking area or small kitchen I never used them once
Only bbq
New boat doesn’t have anything and I enjoy the extra space for storage/ seating
Rain City
Crew Member
Unless you're cooking three meals a day for an entire family for multiple days in a row its really not necessary. But man when you are doing that a full galley with lots of storage for food is a game changer.
We have a BBQ for the boat and when we go out for a few days I originally thought that we would take along one of my myriad of camping stoves. The only thing that we will really need a stove for is the ability to heat and boil water for coffee/tea and to be able to have hot water to properly wash dishes after a meal and to wash up with warm fresh water. For day trips we plan to take a couple of big thermos filled at home with boiling water, and Starbucks VIA to make coffee. Starbuks VIA is excellent and for people who have suffered with US Hotel Buffet Coffee they offer a form of Caffeine salvation
I have a jetboil but I would consider it too tippy to have on a boat and my current coleman and optimus stoves all use liquid fuel. I am not keen on having to be pouring white gas into a stove nor needing another fuel sources on board.
I expect that we will buy one of the 2 burner coleman stoves that run on the same propane cannisters as the Dickinson BBQ. That way we only have one cooking fuel source to manage. Coleman also makes a folding oven for theses stoves and I used one for years to bake cakes and brownies over fires. So we can still have an oven if we decided we needed one (extremely unlikely)
This thread and these questions help me out during the build . I will now ask Robert to put a lip or rail around the flip up table so if we decide to bring along a stove we will be prepared with a safety lip and the Stove will be less likely to side off the table while we are moored and cooking.
Here is the stove we would probably buy https://tinyurl.com/Jaxon-Table-Lip
I hope the custom URL amuses you all this fine morning. It is helpful if you are keeping links on a project to name them using tinyurl.
Speaking of food, we have a decent sized Yeti Kooler and one of the things I don't want is coolers flying around the cockpit.
Yeti makes a very slick low profile tie down kit and I am buying a few so I can have multiple places to strap down coolers if we go on a long trip and want to carry more ice, food, and or expect some fish to join us for the trip home.
Why am I mentioning the tie down kits? Firstly, the clips are low profile and I want Robert to tap the screws into the floor so that I won't mess things up when I use my homeowner picture hook placement technique on the deck. A man has to know his limitations.
And secondly, like many other items since Covid they are in very short supply and have been out of stock most places for months. If you are planning to buy a new Yeti this summer and want to secure it to the deck buy the clips when you see them.
I know there are aftermarket clips that are less expensive but I am a bit CDO (that is OCD with the letters in the right sequence ) and need things to be orderly. That is why our dock and spring lines are a different colour.
I have a jetboil but I would consider it too tippy to have on a boat and my current coleman and optimus stoves all use liquid fuel. I am not keen on having to be pouring white gas into a stove nor needing another fuel sources on board.
I expect that we will buy one of the 2 burner coleman stoves that run on the same propane cannisters as the Dickinson BBQ. That way we only have one cooking fuel source to manage. Coleman also makes a folding oven for theses stoves and I used one for years to bake cakes and brownies over fires. So we can still have an oven if we decided we needed one (extremely unlikely)
This thread and these questions help me out during the build . I will now ask Robert to put a lip or rail around the flip up table so if we decide to bring along a stove we will be prepared with a safety lip and the Stove will be less likely to side off the table while we are moored and cooking.
Here is the stove we would probably buy https://tinyurl.com/Jaxon-Table-Lip
I hope the custom URL amuses you all this fine morning. It is helpful if you are keeping links on a project to name them using tinyurl.
Speaking of food, we have a decent sized Yeti Kooler and one of the things I don't want is coolers flying around the cockpit.
Yeti makes a very slick low profile tie down kit and I am buying a few so I can have multiple places to strap down coolers if we go on a long trip and want to carry more ice, food, and or expect some fish to join us for the trip home.
Why am I mentioning the tie down kits? Firstly, the clips are low profile and I want Robert to tap the screws into the floor so that I won't mess things up when I use my homeowner picture hook placement technique on the deck. A man has to know his limitations.
And secondly, like many other items since Covid they are in very short supply and have been out of stock most places for months. If you are planning to buy a new Yeti this summer and want to secure it to the deck buy the clips when you see them.
I know there are aftermarket clips that are less expensive but I am a bit CDO (that is OCD with the letters in the right sequence ) and need things to be orderly. That is why our dock and spring lines are a different colour.
No kidding!!! I just took delivery of my boat and boy is it nice having a fridge full of food and beverage and a freezer for ~10 trays of bait. Just walk on the boat in the morning and trust that you can make a meal on the water. No prep work the night before. Lots of impromptu overnight trips in my future and looking forward to not having to pack in coolers of food.
Rain City
Crew Member
8 packs of bait and a pack of smokies
I received a teaser email from Robert last Thursday and I thought I would shed my anticipation by sharing Robert's email
Morning Bill,
Keel welding today.
GoPro set up for the whole build!
RJ
Now to ground this thread I heard from John Ary at Hammer Marine (he is the brother of the inventor of the Lone Star system) regarding our anchor. With the shortage of overland shipping containers their shipment of anchors has been stuck in the port of LA for quite some time (we have had the winch, etc for a month or so).
Their anchor shipment arrived in Texas the other day and our anchor shipped out today. This organization has been simply first class to deal with from the get-go.
Morning Bill,
Keel welding today.
GoPro set up for the whole build!
RJ
Now to ground this thread I heard from John Ary at Hammer Marine (he is the brother of the inventor of the Lone Star system) regarding our anchor. With the shortage of overland shipping containers their shipment of anchors has been stuck in the port of LA for quite some time (we have had the winch, etc for a month or so).
Their anchor shipment arrived in Texas the other day and our anchor shipped out today. This organization has been simply first class to deal with from the get-go.
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ReelSlim
Crew Member
Looks good Bill! I have pictures exactly like them....lol. Nice to see the bottom of the boat and pod as one piece and not welded on after. Keep them coming....
I took a day off work yesterday and we made a busy trip to the island. We were on the 7 am boat to Sidney (up at 4:00 )with our first stop being at Shockwave so we could see what seats work best for us ergonomically. I am 6'3" or so and my wife is 5'6'.
We had been talking with Shockwave since before the latest lockdown and they had agreed to our visiting them at their facility once things cleared up. My wife and I are two weeks plus after our second vaciine shot..
In my job I visit a lot of companies and after 40 plus years of doing this you can pretty quickly get a feel for a Company's Culture. Within 2 minutes of walking in the front door of Shockwave it was apparent to both my wife and I that this was a world class organization, filled with great employees who are proud of their work.
We decided on the Commander High Backs and after some discussion we are going with the S6 seat base as it offers 3 inches of height adjustment. We will combine that with their swivel slides and the height adjustable foot rests.
Ergonomics are so important especially when the two indivicuals who will be piloting the boat as so vastly different in height. We made this decison based on the future resale of the boat as well. If we can get 14 years out of this boat (I would be 80 then) We want to have a boat that is saleable to the largest possible market.
We will be adding a tilt steering wheel to the mix. Robert, our builder will be able to build the seat box height to best acommodate as wide a range as possiable in our seat position. ShockWave will corordinate things with him
After Shockwave we headed up to Port Alberni to the Breakers Marina, to see the motors and meet the Service Manager ,Sarah.
Meeting Sarah was delight, Sarah and my wife traded stories about working in dealerships. My wife with close to half a million kms on motorcycles (including numerous solo cross continent trips, and sojurns to Prudhoe Bay and Inuvik), sold bikes for a couple of years before assuning a role as a comany's finance officer. She is well quailified for this role btw
We went over our motor install , checked to see that all the bits and bites for a dual fly by wire install were squirrled away with our names on it and had a tour of their facilities. We got to see the nice JaxonCraft centre console that was finished just before our build befan with it's motor mounted and standing by for sea duty.
Speaking of motors They have a large inventory of new larger HP Suzukis (over 150Hp) including a lot of the big motors (two 250's with 2 and 4 hours on them that were swapped out of a custom build for twin Mercs. They also have a bunch of new trolling motors. The dealership did a large buy of any remaining Suzuki stock from Suzuki Corporate.
Then we headed up to JaxonCraft and spent a couple of hours with Robert. We dropped off the Lone Star Anchor system, discussed some things going on with the build. (New pictures shortly). I brought along some various sizes of water containers and Robert is going to see wheich ones will fit best under the two side facing interior seats. On a long trip I expect we will need 10-15 gallons of fresh water when we are camping and I would prefer that the containers have a place that is sized to hold them steady. To counteract my weight they will be on the port side, Robert made some build suggestions that we agreed to. One being a 2nd Lewmar Hatch in the Cabin roof to provide extra ventilation
Speaking of future saleablity of the boat my wife has worked out the colour scheme for the boat . My wife should have been an interior designer (seriously) and when she was outlining her ideas to Robert his grin was a mile wide.The boat will be very simple but elegant.
We got home at 1:00 am after a busy 21 hour adventure.
We had been talking with Shockwave since before the latest lockdown and they had agreed to our visiting them at their facility once things cleared up. My wife and I are two weeks plus after our second vaciine shot..
In my job I visit a lot of companies and after 40 plus years of doing this you can pretty quickly get a feel for a Company's Culture. Within 2 minutes of walking in the front door of Shockwave it was apparent to both my wife and I that this was a world class organization, filled with great employees who are proud of their work.
We decided on the Commander High Backs and after some discussion we are going with the S6 seat base as it offers 3 inches of height adjustment. We will combine that with their swivel slides and the height adjustable foot rests.
Ergonomics are so important especially when the two indivicuals who will be piloting the boat as so vastly different in height. We made this decison based on the future resale of the boat as well. If we can get 14 years out of this boat (I would be 80 then) We want to have a boat that is saleable to the largest possible market.
We will be adding a tilt steering wheel to the mix. Robert, our builder will be able to build the seat box height to best acommodate as wide a range as possiable in our seat position. ShockWave will corordinate things with him
After Shockwave we headed up to Port Alberni to the Breakers Marina, to see the motors and meet the Service Manager ,Sarah.
Meeting Sarah was delight, Sarah and my wife traded stories about working in dealerships. My wife with close to half a million kms on motorcycles (including numerous solo cross continent trips, and sojurns to Prudhoe Bay and Inuvik), sold bikes for a couple of years before assuning a role as a comany's finance officer. She is well quailified for this role btw
We went over our motor install , checked to see that all the bits and bites for a dual fly by wire install were squirrled away with our names on it and had a tour of their facilities. We got to see the nice JaxonCraft centre console that was finished just before our build befan with it's motor mounted and standing by for sea duty.
Speaking of motors They have a large inventory of new larger HP Suzukis (over 150Hp) including a lot of the big motors (two 250's with 2 and 4 hours on them that were swapped out of a custom build for twin Mercs. They also have a bunch of new trolling motors. The dealership did a large buy of any remaining Suzuki stock from Suzuki Corporate.
Then we headed up to JaxonCraft and spent a couple of hours with Robert. We dropped off the Lone Star Anchor system, discussed some things going on with the build. (New pictures shortly). I brought along some various sizes of water containers and Robert is going to see wheich ones will fit best under the two side facing interior seats. On a long trip I expect we will need 10-15 gallons of fresh water when we are camping and I would prefer that the containers have a place that is sized to hold them steady. To counteract my weight they will be on the port side, Robert made some build suggestions that we agreed to. One being a 2nd Lewmar Hatch in the Cabin roof to provide extra ventilation
Speaking of future saleablity of the boat my wife has worked out the colour scheme for the boat . My wife should have been an interior designer (seriously) and when she was outlining her ideas to Robert his grin was a mile wide.The boat will be very simple but elegant.
We got home at 1:00 am after a busy 21 hour adventure.
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Well we (ok my wife) worked out the colour scheme for the boat this weekend and we settled on a name for the boat.
We also ordered the Shockwave Seats, adjustable foot rests and slide and slide swivel mounts. We are still not sure whether to go with the S5 or S6 seat bases
(The S6 is height adjustable which makes sense considering the ergonomic difference between my wife and I). Hopefully, the S6's will be in production by September 1st.
We also ordered the Shockwave Seats, adjustable foot rests and slide and slide swivel mounts. We are still not sure whether to go with the S5 or S6 seat bases
(The S6 is height adjustable which makes sense considering the ergonomic difference between my wife and I). Hopefully, the S6's will be in production by September 1st.
