XD 100 pricing ?!

I know that West Marine used to sell a lower cost direct injection 2 stroke oil specially formulated for direct injection motors like Opti and E-Tec. But as they have now left Canada it would be more difficult to access it, assuming they still carry it given that both Opti and E-Tec are no longer made.

As I understand it, the direct injection Merc 2 stroke oil for my Opti has special and additional cleaners and lubrication additives, and the cleaners are particularly important for long term problem reduced motor operation. Usually someone will pipe in that it is all marketing hype and other oils are the same and will be just fine, but I am sticking with the good stuff for my 20 year old 225 Opti given the cost of a new 225.

In your situation, I would be wondering if Merc Opti direct injection oil would be a good substitute and equivalent or even superior to the XD 100 direct injection oil. If it is, you may find Opti oil easier to find and cheaper. I once considered seeing if I could find a few guys with Opti motors to go in on buying a 50 gal drum of Opti oil and splitting it up, but that never went anywhere. Even so, I have got better pricing from some Merc dealers over the last few years by offering to buy 50 litres (5 ten liter jugs) at a time in the 10 to 12 dollar a litre range. It also pays to watch the local sales forums and I managed to recently purchase 3 four litre jugs of Opti oil off of a SFBC forum member for $100 after he sold his boat and motor. You may want to place a few ads and see if you can get some XD100 oil off someone who may still have it after replacing their E-Tec with a 4 stroke.

I don't know if they carry XD 100, but Cabelas carries Merc Opti Oil at a good price and sometimes put it on sale. Apparently at one time, a lot of big light weight direct injection 2 strokes were put on bass boats.
 
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You are right, the XD100 prices are outrageous.

Just wondering....is this an equivalent product? Made for ETEC sleds and packaged/sold by the same parent company

 
Just wondering....is this an equivalent product? Made for ETEC sleds and packaged/sold by the same parent company

No it is not same. 2T is formulated for sleds, which have closed circuit glycol cooking and so run at much more stable temps than raw water cooled outboards.
 
How do you find out what oil your engine is set for? I just bought a G1 200 Ho with 50 hrs on it and want to make sure I use the right oil.
my understanding from my mechanic is if you run xd100 you'll be covered for both. only way to find out that i know of is to have it scanned by a tech. didn't the previous owner know?
 
my understanding from my mechanic is if you run xd100 you'll be covered for both. only way to find out that i know of is to have it scanned by a tech. didn't the previous owner know?
This is true. Having the EMM set to XD100 setting means less oil is used. If using other oil, changing the EMM to the TCW3 setting ensures more oil is delivered to compensate for lower lubricating capabilities.

It is generally recommended for higher hour motors to run XD100 but keep the setting at TCW3.

Simple to plug into the software and check status, and toggle the setting from XD100 to TCW3 or vice versa. With a factory shop manual and the EVDiag software, these are straightforward motors to work on.
 
So any further thoughts on amsoil or
Tohatsu for those who have tried these as a replacement for xd100? Warranty is no longer in effect on my engine and I’m considering options as well, but don’t want to mess things up! Thx!
 
Several threads in the Etec Owners Group online forum about alternatives to XD100. General approval for the Amsoil full synthetic.
 
Several threads in the Etec Owners Group online forum about alternatives to XD100. General approval for the Amsoil full synthetic.
I've sent alot of tohatsu synthetic through etecs. Sierra as well. Sierra prices went through the ceiling during covid though and they pretty much stayed there. I get huge discounts if I buy in volume from tohatsu. Brp prices are really high
 
I've sent alot of tohatsu synthetic through etecs. Sierra as well. Sierra prices went through the ceiling during covid though and they pretty much stayed there. I get huge discounts if I buy in volume from tohatsu. Brp prices are really high
So amsoil seems to be fine, as long as you change the setting from XD100 to …. the other setting?? I couldn’t find a lot online about Tohatsu, other than some thinking it was pretty much the same as xd100… I’m no mechanic by any means, but do you just bring it in to the shop to have them change it from the xd100 setting? Or can I do it myself? I have a gen 1 200 HO on a 23 ft wellcraft, and it seems to burn through the oil pretty quickly, which makes oil a significant cost overall. Thanks for any feedback!
 
So amsoil seems to be fine, as long as you change the setting from XD100 to …. the other setting?? I couldn’t find a lot online about Tohatsu, other than some thinking it was pretty much the same as xd100… I’m no mechanic by any means, but do you just bring it in to the shop to have them change it from the xd100 setting? Or can I do it myself? I have a gen 1 200 HO on a 23 ft wellcraft, and it seems to burn through the oil pretty quickly, which makes oil a significant cost overall. Thanks for any feedback!
Good oil is good oil. All of the synthetic tcw3 is good imo.

The 2 oil settings change the amount of oil pulses that the pump will do basically. The xd100 setting uses less oil then if you set to the tcw3 setting. We always use synthetic oil on the tcw3 setting.

You can bring it over to the shop and I'll set it up for you or you can buy your own diagnostic equipment and do it yourself. It's not complicated to change that setting.
 
So any further thoughts on amsoil or
Tohatsu for those who have tried these as a replacement for xd100? Warranty is no longer in effect on my engine and I’m considering options as well, but don’t want to mess
So any further thoughts on amsoil or
Tohatsu for those who have tried these as a replacement for xd100? Warranty is no longer in effect on my engine and I’m considering options as well, but don’t want to mess things up! Thx!

So any further thoughts on amsoil or
Tohatsu for those who have tried these as a replacement for xd100? Warranty is no longer in effect on my engine and I’m considering options as well, but don’t want to mess things up! Thx!
On my 2nd barrel of amsoil and no issues
 

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so just a fun little update:
needed a jug of XD 100 so i went up to Bill Howmuch ( Bill Howich) and they no longer sell the bulk oil so it’s now $112 for a jug after tax. this is double what i paid when i first started this thread . absolute madness
 
Canadian tire has XD 100 for $87 I could be wrong but is not TCW3 setting 33 gallons of gas to 1 gallon of oil XD50 50 gallons of gas to 1 gallon of oil and XD100 100 gallons of gas to 1 gallon of oil The synthetic I looked at said TCW3 setting was to be used So is that not 3 times the amount of oil at TCW3 ? I have a 07 250 Etec and it seems to use I gallon for 10 jerry cans

the local shop to Sooke will not work on any 2 strokes (their lose )
 
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