RiverBoy
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please share mr. wolf! i used finned balls and i still get the clip line twisting in the gangion.Already have !!!!
please share mr. wolf! i used finned balls and i still get the clip line twisting in the gangion.Already have !!!!
I use a 48" clips so I like to rig my clip as close to that distance from the ball as possible. That way when I bring the gear out of the water, the clip and the ball are out of the way and not in danger of getting tangled in anything. This also stops your gear from hitting bottom when you're dragging your balls in the mud. I liked how one member had his clip tied directly to a swivel that came up through the pulley. I've been too lazy to try it.If you use a snubber, just clip onto the the coastlock at the top.
It can't go anywhere unless you break off everything.
no i’m referring to when trolling. when i bring up the cannon, the clip line is twisted around the tuna cord. and i use finned balls and they still twist.If I’m getting your point right, after I put the fishing line in the clip, while still hanging on to the clip (rod is in holder now) I let the brake go down a foot or two until there’s enough tension between the clip and fishing line to eliminate any back twist. Then I let go of the clip and let the brake go to my depth. I do it if the rod is in the holder while connecting the clip, or even if I’m using a free spool feature reel and using my thumb as a brake. Just hold the rod tip high enough to give tension, release the brake to your depth, flick the free spool off and put the rod in the holder.
attach your clip to the fin eyelet if it has one.no i’m referring to when trolling. when i bring up the cannon, the clip line is twisted around the tuna cord. and i use finned balls and they still twist.
I like it. I'd personally do two crimps to hold the clip up higher. Otherwise it's great.Ever since switching to this set up I haven’t seen a clip go missing.
Tuna cord however long works for your boat, swivel or knot to braid ( I’ve tried both I haven’t had a swivel fail yet like some report.) This works as your auto stop. I have mine set to stop the ball just below water surface. Crimp on tuna cord a foot from the ball to act as a stopper. Swivel below crimp to attach 200lb mono or whatever you have laying around. 200lb mono to a snap, release clip with small loop of mono. Then have a spare clip with small loop on board for swaps when clips get contaminated eliminates down time. Below swivel on tuna cord is a crimp connecting swivel/ ball clip, or loop knot to girth hitch ball. Again I haven’t had a swivel clip fail yet but have switched out after some hard ground impact damage. This way everything is attached can’t knock the clip off with the pulley or gaff. If you accidentally hit the rigger up to high the clips swivel just gets sucked in but won’t pop off.
Simple easy build it yourself, have a few spares on board for when someone pulls a @Stizzla and looses the whole rig.
Downside is storage in the garage with the attached clip can get a bit messy. I just wrap mine around the boom or what have you. Clip into the gunnel shelf when on the boat hasn’t been an issue for me.
Best system by far. Started building and using this exact system 2 seasons back and no issues whatsoever. Also allows for quick change of clips that wear out (don't hold). 100+ days per season on the water tried and tested. I also use 400 pound martin leader which stands up really well, even if you are dragging bottom a lot (which i do frequently). Losing far fewer cannon balls too due to amazing strength of the marlin leader. Its easy to get - Amazon has plenty of options.Ever since switching to this set up I haven’t seen a clip go missing.
Tuna cord however long works for your boat, swivel or knot to braid ( I’ve tried both I haven’t had a swivel fail yet like some report.) This works as your auto stop. I have mine set to stop the ball just below water surface. Crimp on tuna cord a foot from the ball to act as a stopper. Swivel below crimp to attach 200lb mono or whatever you have laying around. 200lb mono to a snap, release clip with small loop of mono. Then have a spare clip with small loop on board for swaps when clips get contaminated eliminates down time. Below swivel on tuna cord is a crimp connecting swivel/ ball clip, or loop knot to girth hitch ball. Again I haven’t had a swivel clip fail yet but have switched out after some hard ground impact damage. This way everything is attached can’t knock the clip off with the pulley or gaff. If you accidentally hit the rigger up to high the clips swivel just gets sucked in but won’t pop off.
Simple easy build it yourself, have a few spares on board for when someone pulls a @Stizzla and looses the whole rig.
Downside is storage in the garage with the attached clip can get a bit messy. I just wrap mine around the boom or what have you. Clip into the gunnel shelf when on the boat hasn’t been an issue for me.
I started just replacing the yellow tips. Takes two seconds and they store easily at the helm.Best system by far. Started building and using this exact system 2 seasons back and no issues whatsoever. Also allows for quick change of clips that wear out (don't hold). 100+ days per season on the water tried and tested. I also use 400 pound martin leader which stands up really well, even if you are dragging bottom a lot (which i do frequently). Losing far fewer cannon balls too due to amazing strength of the marlin leader. Its easy to get - Amazon has plenty of options.
I’ve tried this exact setup in the winter and the floats looked like raisins from the pressure at 200ft when they came up. They did go back to normal after a while. Seems fine shallow depths.I knocked off so many clips this summer I gave it some thought and after trying a couple different solutions this one works. They float and the bright colour makes it easy to spot if you don't get it until you turn and come back for it. Most of the time I can get the net on it without turning around.
Used something similar for ages-same old balsa river float too,
This is the Best model though-cannot be knocked off.
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Good point, leave the fin eyelet for attraction flashers.X2 make my own, clipped onto the top of main swivel
NEVER clipped to the fin, why drag a ball with a fin sideways?
Great ideaI use a short piece of mono tied to the clip and a snap then attach the snap to the cable. If the clip gets knocked off it slides down to the next clip or ball and is retrieved when we bring it up.
Well I make my own set ups so I used to work for wesking back in the day making countless thousands of snaps. i use the commercial snaps that will slide up and down inbetween the beads like to old commercial trollers did what they call number 7 B. but im sure you could use the same method by bending the crimping tang straight so it can slide up and down the gangion line, might you want it loose as it has to move freely so when coming up its doesnt spin. may have to put a knot in it so it doesnt slide all the way down to the cannon ball. Ive been using something similar as a pool noodle from a plumbing buddy (smaller) on my clips for years same as what rollie does.please share mr. wolf! i used finned balls and i still get the clip line twisting in the gangion.
Great system; where to you find the paracord crimp sleeves?Ever since switching to this set up I haven’t seen a clip go missing.
Tuna cord however long works for your boat, swivel or knot to braid ( I’ve tried both I haven’t had a swivel fail yet like some report.) This works as your auto stop. I have mine set to stop the ball just below water surface. Crimp on tuna cord a foot from the ball to act as a stopper. Swivel below crimp to attach 200lb mono or whatever you have laying around. 200lb mono to a snap, release clip with small loop of mono. Then have a spare clip with small loop on board for swaps when clips get contaminated eliminates down time. Below swivel on tuna cord is a crimp connecting swivel/ ball clip, or loop knot to girth hitch ball. Again I haven’t had a swivel clip fail yet but have switched out after some hard ground impact damage. This way everything is attached can’t knock the clip off with the pulley or gaff. If you accidentally hit the rigger up to high the clips swivel just gets sucked in but won’t pop off.
Simple easy build it yourself, have a few spares on board for when someone pulls a @Stizzla and looses the whole rig.
Downside is storage in the garage with the attached clip can get a bit messy. I just wrap mine around the boom or what have you. Clip into the gunnel shelf when on the boat hasn’t been an issue for me.
Chandler and PNT both have them in stock on the regular. I can’t remember the size off hand.Great system; where to you find the paracord crimp sleeves?
and what are doing if your stacking???Ever since switching to this set up I haven’t seen a clip go missing.
Tuna cord however long works for your boat, swivel or knot to braid ( I’ve tried both I haven’t had a swivel fail yet like some report.) This works as your auto stop. I have mine set to stop the ball just below water surface. Crimp on tuna cord a foot from the ball to act as a stopper. Swivel below crimp to attach 200lb mono or whatever you have laying around. 200lb mono to a snap, release clip with small loop of mono. Then have a spare clip with small loop on board for swaps when clips get contaminated eliminates down time. Below swivel on tuna cord is a crimp connecting swivel/ ball clip, or loop knot to girth hitch ball. Again I haven’t had a swivel clip fail yet but have switched out after some hard ground impact damage. This way everything is attached can’t knock the clip off with the pulley or gaff. If you accidentally hit the rigger up to high the clips swivel just gets sucked in but won’t pop off.
Simple easy build it yourself, have a few spares on board for when someone pulls a @Stizzla and looses the whole rig.
Downside is storage in the garage with the attached clip can get a bit messy. I just wrap mine around the boom or what have you. Clip into the gunnel shelf when on the boat hasn’t been an issue for me.