Haverodwilltravel
Active Member
It settled then. Increasing the herring quota in SOG would be safe and effective
When Will it Stop?
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Let us know how your protest went.
Haverodwilltravel
Active Member
It didn’t go well at all. As a matter of fact
I was the only one there to protest. My sign said “Herr today, gone tomorrow”
I spent the night in jail. What really hurt was when they slammed the cell door and yelled “We must feed Asia, all your resources are…..belong to us!!!”
Muah-ha-ha-ha-ha!
Haverodwilltravel
Active Member
Gawd men, There were no visible signs of herring spawn at Qualicum Beach this year.
Hmmmm, did they catch too much last year?
Hmmmm, did they catch too much last year?
SpringVelocity
Crew Member
Yep
Haverodwilltravel
Active Member
Of course. But in my recollection of about 30+ years there has always been an abundance of spawn in Qualicum each and every March. Its not necessary for me to read a report by Scientists hired to report the DFO “safe and effective” narrative.
If the herring are coming, they are later than usual.
The fishery is done. Spawn started early even before the fleet was ready. Lots of spawn this year. I've talked to lots of guys who went out and jigged their bait. Maybe you looked at the wrong time...... anyways there was/ is lots of fish ,........ beleive what you want.
Far too much of that these days. Believing in something has replaced facts. Just look at the resurgance of measles across North America for example. Shameful!!!
I don't think he was going to listen to any facts .... I was getting tired telling him it's not doom and gloom. .....
IronNoggin
Well-Known Member
Confirmed herring biomass in Barkley Sound at 20,000T verses last few years of 8,000.
Noticeable improvement.
Noticeable improvement.
wildmanyeah
Crew Member
ENGO say its bad and there for people see what they want to see
its like buying a new car and then seeing that make and model pass you on the hwy every few mins that you never noticed before.
lots of people also reporting spawns in areas they have not spawned in 30 years, this continues last years trend where it was spread out over more locations
its like buying a new car and then seeing that make and model pass you on the hwy every few mins that you never noticed before.
lots of people also reporting spawns in areas they have not spawned in 30 years, this continues last years trend where it was spread out over more locations
searun
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Yes, 3 years in a row the biomass was above the threshold to allow a sustainable fishery, but decisions made not to proceed (except for spawn on kelp fishery) to ensure the recovery was a full trend and successful.
And herring spawning moves around from season to season, so just because a particular beach doesn't experience a spawn one year does not make a harbinger of doom for herring make.
There is nothing at all wrong with a fishery managed to science-based removals that have harvest rates set to ensure the biomass is being fished sustainably. Natural resources such as our fisheries need to be sustainably harvested to deliver social an economic benefits to Canada. If we sit around killing every natural resource industry, what is going to fund schools, roads, hospitals and Canada. Good grief!
Sharphooks
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Just for the record…..commercial herring harvest is quite a bit more multi-faceted then “roe to Japan”….
Every year I sell commercially caught herring to Pacific cod longline vessels in the Bering Sea, Dungeness crab guys in Rupert and the Salish Sea, and to halibut sport charter guys in Southeast Alaska.
And then there’s the tray-pack that supports the salmon sport fishery we all rely on
If it’s a well -managed harvest (14% TAC sounds to be on the conservative side if the population dynamics and biomass estimates are accurate ) then it should be supportable as a sound use of a renewable resource
DFO doesn’t always get it right but in this case it appears they are properly managing the herring stocks while supporting the commercial sector
Every year I sell commercially caught herring to Pacific cod longline vessels in the Bering Sea, Dungeness crab guys in Rupert and the Salish Sea, and to halibut sport charter guys in Southeast Alaska.
And then there’s the tray-pack that supports the salmon sport fishery we all rely on
If it’s a well -managed harvest (14% TAC sounds to be on the conservative side if the population dynamics and biomass estimates are accurate ) then it should be supportable as a sound use of a renewable resource
DFO doesn’t always get it right but in this case it appears they are properly managing the herring stocks while supporting the commercial sector
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wildmanyeah
Crew Member
the food and bait fishery tho is relatively small compared to the roe.
that's why the focus on the roe fishery.
both are well managed
For many years the derby style herring fishery rewarded cheating and over-fishing. Since DFO switched to the individual quota system there is zero benefit to catching more than your quota so over-fishing and cheating has essentially stopped. DFO then adopted the same model as the highly successful herring fishery in California. This model was based on harvesting up to 20% of the biomass and leaving 80% to spawn. This has resulted in a stable, predictable fishery in spite of the "hair on fire" rhetoric often times espoused on here. Reducing the harvest rate to 14%, while unnecessary, will result in even larger herring runs in the future. The "hair on fire gang" will not be happy until the harvest rate is zero.
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