Transport Canada and SFAB Offshore Guidelines for Tuna Catch and Safety

Good question hambone.

As far as I know - the SVOP is valid for "near coastal voyages, class 2" - up to 25nm from shore (and up to 5GT). I would assume your insurance to be null and void if anything happened with an "invalid" operator certification. See MPR, Section 212, Table 1, item 18 and Table 2, item 6: http://laws.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-2007-115/
Or how about a letter from your broker saying you are covered up to 75 miles out?
 
Thanks maybe Derby might share in the spoils, and not questioning your skill or smarts:)
no worries here...:) People will always have varied thoughts about this fishery and as this fishery expand.... the documents put out there as a guide line for those that are considering this emerging fishery...it is just not as simple as I'm going out to the rats nose to fish.... its like going three 3 different water experience at time going out there and its hoped that people think about what they are taking on and be total prepared for the experience.... I always look so forward to those off shore trips myself......:D
 
Or how about a letter from your broker saying you are covered up to 75 miles out?
as long as one is not charging to make monies , this fishery does not fall under the svop guidlines. i am insured for up to 200nm with a simple rider added to my insurance. now if i was to be charging people i would still be insured but the grey area is with the svop and TC.

I'm pretty sure an experienced guide could get an exemption with TC to go further offshore. Never heard of it done but why wouldn't they? There's many different fisheries around the world that require more than 25nm offshore.
 
not an insurance person - nor a lawyer - but my understanding is that insurance covers 2 things - your boat and equipment - and your actions and liabilities. If your certification is invalid - does your insurance cover you? Prob depends on your insurance. Maybe read the fine print - BEFORE you plan on chartering and/or going tuna fishing. There are other certification levels in the Transport Canada certification (safe manning regs - as posted).
 
I'm pretty sure an experienced guide could get an exemption with TC to go further offshore. Never heard of it done but why wouldn't they? There's many different fisheries around the world that require more than 25nm offshore.

What you need is a higher ticket than an SVOP. As long as you are keeping a log book you can accumulate sea time while guiding (to qualify)
There is no position at Transport Canada who can/would right an exemption, it would be irresponsible to do so. We already have a licensing system in place in Canada.
Just get your appropriate license to master your vessel offshore, get your additional safety equipment/tickets, and your fine.
My current underwriter covers me well past where I can legally operate with my SVOP, but obviously I have to be running legally to qualify for an insurance claim. If a guide does have a limited policy, I'd recommend finding a new one.
 
The problem with higher tickets is the 60T and 150T still don't give you the offshore coverage. The 150t master gives you NC2 (near coastal 2) which is 25nm offshore.

The thing to do might be commercial fishing marine tickets. I'm not familiar with them but the offshore coverage must be there as those guys regularly go way offshore.

Transport Canada does give exemptions, but you'd likely have to have more than an SVOP.
 
The problem with higher tickets is the 60T and 150T still don't give you the offshore coverage. The 150t master gives you NC2 (near coastal 2) which is 25nm offshore.

The thing to do might be commercial fishing marine tickets. I'm not familiar with them but the offshore coverage must be there as those guys regularly go way offshore.

Transport Canada does give exemptions, but you'd likely have to have more than an SVOP.

Its being looked at but a slow process when u are dealing with transport Canada
 
With 2 months of seatime you can get a 60T ticket without the 25nm limitation.
I don't have the chart in front of me but obviously you'll need additional certifications such as electronic navigation, MED A2, and more extensive safety equipment including a life raft.
 
With 2 months of seatime you can get a 60T ticket without the 25nm limitation.
I don't have the chart in front of me but obviously you'll need additional certifications such as electronic navigation, MED A2, and more extensive safety equipment including a life raft.

I'd double check where you're getting this info. I recently finished my 150 after having the 60 for a couple years. The 60 is called the "master limited" and very restricted, often issued for a single vessel or similar fleet of vessels. It usually comes with very limited and specific sea area, based on the operators coastal experience. For example, when I had mine it was Vancouver to Rupert but no more than 10 miles off shore.

Anyways, I might go have a talk with the people in TC and try to get it first hand what they would want to see in terms of certification for a tuna charter operator.
 
Sorry Derby for taking this thread a little off topic. Curious about the offshore expedition side of this fishery though ;)
 
Sorry Derby for taking this thread a little off topic. Curious about the offshore expedition side of this fishery though ;)

Thanks I will definitely go triple check my information and once I get the facts straight I'll start a new thread because you're right we're definitely derailing his conversation. sorry about that.

My dad had the unique experience of changing Tugboat jobs a couple of times over his career and what he has found is that when you go to do your Masters tickets they sculpt the ticket to fits the job which you are working at.
I have a Transport Canada small craft inspector on speed dial and and he's who I get all my information from
 
I'd double check where you're getting this info. I recently finished my 150 after having the 60 for a couple years. The 60 is called the "master limited" and very restricted, often issued for a single vessel or similar fleet of vessels. It usually comes with very limited and specific sea area, based on the operators coastal experience. For example, when I had mine it was Vancouver to Rupert but no more than 10 miles off shore.

Anyways, I might go have a talk with the people in TC and try to get it first hand what they would want to see in terms of certification for a tuna charter operator.
GOOD LUCK TRYING TO GET A STRAIGHT ANSWER FROM TRANSPORT CANADA!!
 
Now is a good time to review and make changes to your account with the Canadian Beacon Registry. There was a few little tweaks I made to mine.

https://www.cbr-rcb.ca/cbr/presentation/login_connexion/login_connexion.php

After the guide overboard fiasco in Esperanza/Kyuquot, I decided to get an EPIRB to reduce my time in the water if I need to abandon ship.
I bought it online in the US, wasn't expensive, but when I went to register it, I found out it needs to be reprogrammed as a Canadian beacon. It doesn't seem to be a big deal getting it reprogrammed, just something you should be aware of if you're buying one in the US or abroad.
 
After the guide overboard fiasco in Esperanza/Kyuquot, I decided to get an EPIRB to reduce my time in the water if I need to abandon ship.
I bought it online in the US, wasn't expensive, but when I went to register it, I found out it needs to be reprogrammed as a Canadian beacon. It doesn't seem to be a big deal getting it reprogrammed, just something you should be aware of if you're buying one in the US or abroad.

Like this one on amazon. Not for canada apparently.
https://www.amazon.ca/ACR-PLB-375-R..._1?ie=UTF8&qid=1470586987&sr=8-1&keywords=PLB

I wear this one, But i certainly didn't pay 700$ for it lol. Should be around $275: https://www.amazon.ca/McMurdo-Fast-..._8?ie=UTF8&qid=1470586987&sr=8-8&keywords=PLB
 
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