Time to stand up for ourselves

Well, there should be no surprises as this is a largely academic exercise. Of note timing wise, this has not yet hit the Fisheries Minister's desk, so not on her agenda, nor any of her Ottawa staff. There is still lots of time to reach out to MP's, book an appointment and help them gain a thorough understanding of the key issues impacting you and our fishery. There is no real science-based business case setting out clear recovery goals and objective measurement metrics to assess how these current and proposed measures are actually performing at delivering meaningful benefit to SRKW recovery. We need a political decision maker who will look at the facts and make decisions based on weighing the proposed measures against the objective outcome benefits and the social and economic cost/benefit.
 
DFO uttered complete hogwash throughout the Teams call today. They offered no tangible responses to a myriad of well-posed questions and comments. No one is suprised by this, but we all have to do our part right now. Send the letters and attend the meetings if able. These measures have been spreading like mould on cheese for years now, consistently ignoring DFO's own self-funded and industry-volunteered scientific data.
I feel technologically inferior not being able to connect to that
 
Surely we all understand that the whole SRKW recovery farce that has been foisted on us the last few years,piece by piece, by the Federal government is a convenient smokescreen. Being used to cover up the real reason for building a super highway of closures, from the West Coast to the Fraser River, to allow the maximum number of Fraser Early and Summer run Chinooks to be reallocated to the "special citizens" in the river. Nothing to do with conservation of SRKW or Chinooks and everything to do with reallocation. The Federal government has no intention of listening to science, which in this case is just a thorn in their sides. We are now existing on the scraps they have left us. THERE IS NOTHING LEFT TO GIVE.
If they persist in attempting to rip off the September opening, they need to know there will be political Hell to pay!!! Our backs are to the wall. :mad:
 
This has nothing to do with the whales. Liberals are handing all salmon returning to the Fraser River to lower Fraser First Nations. I forget what year the court case brought by the nations claiming inherent right to all salmon bound for the Fraser River and they lost. Since then every year dfo has chipped away at sportfishing and they are about to put the last nail in the coffin.
I am sure someone can remember that case.
Liberals and NDP need to go
 
I have emailed to setup a meeting with my MP. I received an automatic reply but nothing else so far. I have followed up twice. We will see what happens but I so far I am a bit disappointed in the process. It has been over a week with no reply.
 
I have emailed to setup a meeting with my MP. I received an automatic reply but nothing else so far. I have followed up twice. We will see what happens but I so far I am a bit disappointed in the process. It has been over a week with no reply.
Same here, over a week and radio silence other than the automated ‘we got your email’ reply.
 
Jason Tonelli just sent out an email with the info and how to respond. Needs to be done by end of day tomorrow.

[td]It’s not often that I authorize a special mailout, because we all get too many emails, but I feel it’s important for anglers to know what some of the proposals are for Southern Resident Killer Whales (SRKW) off the Fraser Mouth and how it might affect chinook fishing.

Currently there is a closure off the North Arm (Blue Box) from Aug 1 to Sep 30. DFO is proposing a further closure (Green Box) and also extending closures from June 1 to November 30. These proposed measures would effectively end the last chinook fishery here in Vancouver and make fishing for sockeye extremely difficult (next year is likely going to be a good sockeye year). I am all for saving the SRKW, but enough is enough. Large spatial closures where SRKW aren’t present (sometimes for over a year) are not the way to go. There is no evidence they are effective and they have massive social and economic impact.
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WHAT CAN YOU DO?

I urge you to submit your feedback to DFO by end of day on October 31, 2025 and express your concerns about these proposed measures and how it will affect you.


Email DFO using this email address: DFO.SRKW-ERS.MPO@dfo-mpo.gc.ca.

Is this a political issue? Absolutely it is, and you can bet that certain groups are lobbying DFO and Members of Parliament to close as many areas as possible to chinook fishing.

Email your Member or Parliament the same email you sent to DFO. Here is a link to find your MP.

Here are some points that have been emailed to DFO already, that you may find useful.

Current SRKW closure area off the North Arm of the Fraser River from Aug 1 to Sep 30:
  1. Not effective. SRKW were not seen in this area in Aug 2024, once in Sep 2024, and not seen in Aug 2025. Sep 2025 data not currently available. SRKW were not seen in this area in Aug and Sep 2023. So SRKW were seen once off the Mouth of the Fraser in the last 3 years.
  2. DFO has failed to demonstrate the benefit of these large, closed areas in relation to SRKW foraging activity and effectiveness.
  3. The closure has had significant social and economic impact on the last remaining summer chinook fishery in Vancouver, effectively closing the productive waters off the N Arm of the Fraser and just past the popular “Bell Buoy” off Point Grey. Both were traditionally frequented by smaller vessels.
Chinook Fishery General Notes:
  1. 29-3 is closed April 1 to Aug 31.
  2. The effective season is now Sep 1 to Sep 21 in 29-3. In the last week of September, the angling activity drops off sharply as the vast majority of the chinook are now in the Fraser River.
  3. Effectively there is a 3-week season. Of these 3 weeks there is generally a significant number of days where the mouth of the Fraser in 29-3 is not fishable because of SE or NW winds in excess of 15 knots as it is an open and exposed fishery that gets hit hard by both winds. Actual fishing days are less than 21.
  4. Angler impact on a 3-week season with weather constraints on SRKW foraging activity is negligible. As such we recommend the closure off the North Arm be rescinded due to lack of effectiveness and angler activity in the area being extremely limited compared to pre-closure angling opportunities due to current chinook regulations, resulting in a 3-week window.

Proposed “Fraser South Arm” Closure (Green):
  1. See Chinook Fishery General Notes. This is a very limited window of opportunity. This closure (green area) would effectively close this 3 week fishery, the last summer chinook fishery in Vancouver. This would have massive social and economic impact on the only fishery allowing anglers access to strong runs of summer 4.1 chinook and Chilliwack/Vedder and Harrison fall chinook. These 3 runs are doing well. 4.2 and 5.2 have moved through 29-3 at this time.
  2. SRKW Fraser Mouth (Aug & Sep) sightings. Zero in 2025, once 2024, zero in 2023, once in 2022. As you can see, SRKW are not in the area frequently in recent years as per the SRKW Sightings Maps
  3. We do not need another Fraser Mouth closure. There will be no measurable impact on SRKW foraging activity from yet another ineffective closure.

Extended Closure Time June 1 to Nov 30:
  1. The Fraser Mouth 29-3 is already closed to chinook fishing April 1 to Aug 31 with little to no angling activity occurring off the Mouth of the Fraser during this time. This provided ample open and clear foraging opportunities for SRKW in the months of June and July.
  2. I have reviewed October and November in particular, as 29-3 is open at this time, so an extend closure would have the most impact on these months. 2024 zero sightings. 2023 zero sightings. 2022 one sighting in November, but it looks to be south of and more offshore than the closed area and in an area where no angling activity occurs. 2021 zero sightings. 2020 zero sightings.
  3. Angling activity in October and November is very limited off the Fraser Mouth, most of the adult chinook salmon and coho salmon have gone up the Fraser. Weather is also a factor, often limiting access to the area. Some anglers do fish the area for winter chinook. SRKW have only been observed once since 2020. Recommendation is to not extend the closure, it will have zero impact on SRKW foraging activity, leave the area open for winter chinook anglers.

Respectfully,
Jason Tonelli
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Here is the email I just sent to the DFO. Please feel free to use it as a draft for your own response.

To the SRKW Team

I am writing to express my strong concern regarding the proposed expanded closures off the Fraser River mouths, particularly the South Arm. Current regulations already impose significant restrictions, and further closures have not been shown to improve Southern Resident Killer Whale (SRKW) foraging success. Scientific data indicates SRKW rarely use these areas, meaning additional closures will have no measurable benefit for the whales while effectively eliminating the last remaining chinook fishery for Lower Mainland saltwater anglers.

My family has fished salmon in the Strait of Georgia for generations. Today, I am teaching my son and daughter this tradition. instilling respect for wildlife, an understanding of where food comes from, and the joy of catching a chinook to share at the dinner table. With the high cost of salmon in retail stores, fishing is one of the few ways families like mine can enjoy this iconic Canadian food on a regular basis.

I urge you to consider the social and economic impacts these proposals will have on families, communities, and businesses that depend on sport fishing. Please respect both the scientific evidence and the cultural traditions that have shaped BC residents’ life for decades. These closures will not help SRKW recovery but will harm thousands of Canadians who value responsible, sustainable fishing.

Thank you for your attention to this matter.
 
My email - with some help from AI I tried to summarize the core arguments I've seen on these threads, and support them with official DFO data where possible. Take what pieces you like for your own.

Sent to DFO.SRKW-ERS.MPO@dfo-mpo.gc.ca, cc to my local MP, Minister of Fisheries and Oceans and Shadow Minister of Fisheries and Oceans.

Proposed 2026 SRKW Conservation Measures: Misguided and Economically Devastating

Dear Fisheries and Oceans Canada (DFO) Management and Policy Teams,

I am writing to express my profound concern regarding the proposed 2026 area-based closures for the recreational Chinook fishery in the Strait of Georgia (SOG) and Southern Vancouver Island (SVI). While I fully support science-based measures to protect and recover the Southern Resident Killer Whale (SRKW) population, these proposals appear to misdirect significant regulatory effort toward a low-impact activity, placing undue economic stress on coastal communities while neglecting far greater threats identified by DFO's own scientific findings.

My opposition is based on the following critical points, which prioritize SRKW energetic needs and actual threat abatement:

1. Disregard for Primary Threats: Acoustic Disturbance and Contaminants​

DFO's own assessments consistently identify other major threats that area-based recreational fishing closures do not address and which must be the priority focus for SRKW recovery.

  • SRKW Recovery Strategy Review: Identifies reduced prey availability, high contaminant loads, and acoustic/physical disturbance from vessels as the principal threats.
  • Acoustic and Physical Disturbance: Vessel noise from large commercial shipping and intensive commercial whale-watching activities severely interferes with the SRKW's echolocation, making successful foraging difficult, especially for breeding females. While recent vessel strike incidents have targeted humpbacks, the chronic, pervasive acoustic impact from these high-traffic, large-vessel fleets in critical habitat poses a direct, persistent threat. Closing an area to a few recreational vessels has a negligible effect compared to the massive acoustic impacts of major vessel traffic and the constant presence of commercial viewing fleets.

2. Significant Socio-Economic Harm to Coastal Communities​

Restricting the recreational Chinook fishery imposes a high cost on local communities with minimal conservation benefit, jeopardizing a crucial segment of the provincial economy.

  • Economic Contribution: Recreational and sport fishing in British Columbia contributes approximately $1 billion a year to local economies in revenues and taxes.
  • Employment Impact: This sector directly and indirectly supports approximately 9,000 people and their families who depend on fishing services, transportation, and accommodation for their livelihoods. Restrictive, broad closures threaten the viability of these small businesses and coastal jobs.

3. Disproportionate Focus: Negligible Recreational Harvest vs. Commercial Waste​

The recreational fishery's impact on the SRKW's overall required prey base is minimal, especially when compared to the documented loss of Chinook in other sectors.

  • Scientific Estimates: SRKW populations may require over 1,000,000 Chinook per year for sustenance. Stopping recreational fishing, which takes a statistically small proportion of this number, results in a negligible increase in available prey for the whales.
  • Commercial Bycatch: Enhanced DFO monitoring has revealed that groundfish trawl fisheries (targeting hake and flounder) have incidentally caught and killed an estimated ~28,000 salmon (primarily Chinook) per season in recent years. This massive waste of Chinook, which includes threatened Fraser River stocks, is the equivalent of a year's food for 5 to 7 Southern Resident Killer Whales. This interception and discard of prey represents a far more significant and addressable threat to prey availability than the retention limits placed on sport fishers.

4. Foraging Realities and Non-Targeted Habitats​

The efficacy of broad, area-based closures is undermined by the whales' actual foraging locations and seasonal nutritional challenges.

  • Prey Availability Bottleneck: Groundbreaking hydroacoustic research (Trites & Saygili, 2024) indicates that the availability of large Chinook salmon in core SRKW summer feeding areas (Salish Sea) is higher than in the feeding areas used by the healthier Northern Resident population. This finding strongly suggests that the prey limitation bottleneck is not occurring during the summer foraging window within the proposed closure areas.
  • Seasonal Malnutrition Origin: Scientific aerial body condition assessments of SRKWs often show that individuals arrive in the Salish Sea in the summer months already exhibiting poor body condition or signs of malnutrition. This, combined with the hydroacoustic findings, suggests that the critical prey limitation period is occurring during the winter and early spring months when the whales are primarily foraging along the outer coasts and south of Canadian waters (e.g., off Washington, Oregon, and California). Measures focusing solely on summer prey in the SOG fail to address this crucial, earlier nutritional deficit.

5. Alternative, Targeted, and Adaptive Management Solutions​

Instead of broad, static area closures that cause economic harm with minimal ecological benefit, DFO should implement targeted and adaptive strategies that prioritize both SRKW conservation and community viability:

  • Adopt Dynamic 'Moving Bubble' Sanctuaries: Instead of closing entire, large areas based on potential whale presence, DFO should leverage real-time sighting data (e.g., from the B.C. Cetacean Sighting Network) to create mandatory dynamic exclusion zones (e.g., a 1 km radius) that follow confirmed SRKW groups. This 'moving sanctuary' model ensures the whales are protected from localized acoustic and physical disturbance exactly when and where they are foraging, while allowing responsible fishing and boating outside of the immediate vicinity.
  • Prioritize Marked Selective Fisheries (MSF): To meet both conservation and economic goals, DFO must shift its focus toward modern, marked selective fisheries (MSF) for Chinook. These fisheries primarily target abundant hatchery-raised Chinook (marked with an adipose clip), thereby reducing pressure on threatened wild, high-lipid Fraser River Chinook stocks that the SRKWs prefer. This approach allows local recreational fishing to continue, supporting coastal communities, while ensuring the most critical prey stocks are protected for the whales.
In Summary: I urge DFO to immediately reprioritize its conservation efforts. The proposed broad recreational closures disproportionately impact coastal livelihoods while failing to address the principal threats. DFO must focus on strengthening measures against high-impact threats:

  1. Strictly enforce and strengthen commercial trawl Chinook bycatch caps.
  2. Aggressively reduce underwater acoustic and physical disturbance from major commercial shipping traffic and high-intensity commercial whale-watching vessels.
  3. Implement dynamic, 'moving bubble' sanctuaries based on real-time SRKW sightings.
  4. Immediately transition recreational fisheries to Marked Selective Fisheries (MSF) to prioritize the protection and increase of the large, wild Chinook stocks preferred by SRKWs.
  5. Invest in contaminant reduction and habitat-based rebuilding of high-quality Fraser River Chinook stocks.
Thank you for considering this science- and economics-informed feedback.

Sincerely,

REDACTED

 
With these references attached:


Scientific References​

The arguments presented above are supported by official government and peer-reviewed scientific findings:

On Seasonal Prey Abundance and Bottlenecks:

  • Trites & Saygili Study: Hydroacoustic surveys comparing the density of large Chinook salmon in core summer feeding areas found that densities were higher in SRKW habitat (Salish Sea) than in Northern Resident Killer Whale habitat, suggesting that the SRKW prey limitation is occurring in the winter/early spring or elsewhere in their range, not primarily in the summer.
    • Reference: Saygili, B., & Trites, A. W. (2024). Prevalence of Chinook salmon is higher for southern than for northern resident killer whales in summer hot-spot feeding areas. PLoS ONE, 19(10), e0311388.
On Commercial Bycatch:

  • DFO Bycatch Reports: Enhanced DFO monitoring has repeatedly recorded Chinook salmon bycatch in the B.C. groundfish trawl fishery near 28,000 fish per season (e.g., 2022/2023 season), with the majority being Chinook salmon, the primary prey of SRKWs.
    • Reference: Labbé, S. (2025). B.C. trawlers snagged 28K salmon as bycatch for second consecutive season. Business in Vancouver. (Citing DFO enhanced monitoring reports).
On Acoustic Disturbance and Foraging Impairment:

  • Foraging Success Study: Peer-reviewed research demonstrates that vessel noise causes auditory masking that significantly reduces the foraging efficiency and success of killer whales, particularly impairing females' ability to pursue prey.
    • Reference: Tennessen, M. A., et al. (2019). Males miss and females forgo: Auditory masking from vessel noise impairs foraging efficiency and success in killer whales. Global Change Biology, 25(10), 3433–3448.
On SRKW Nutritional Stress and Prey Selectivity:

  • Seasonal Malnutrition: DFO Science Advisory Reports confirm that SRKWs show evidence of poor body condition in the spring, indicating nutritional limitation outside of the summer Salish Sea foraging window, and that they select for specific stocks (Fraser River Spring/Summer) of large, high-lipid Chinook.
    • Reference: DFO. (2025). Science Advisory Report 2025/016: Southern Resident Killer Whale Prey Selectivity in Relation to Chinook Salmon Stock and Size Composition within Canadian Critical Habitat.
On Economic Impact

    • Economic Contribution of BC Fisheries: The recreational fishing sector in British Columbia generates significant revenue and employment, contributions that are jeopardized by large-scale static closures.
      • Reference: The figures are derived from the DFO's 2021 economic surveys. (The British Columbia marine recreational fishery contributes over $1 billion annually to GDP and supports approximately 10,000 jobs).
 

I assume many of you know but just in case you don't - there is a thread on the proposed SRKW area management (closures) for 2026 and the Town Hall Meetings in Duncan tomorrow and Langford on Nov 13th

Not sure if that is why it may look like there is a lack of engagement ( that is, if you were referring to this SFBC thread here )

Up to page #95 on this Conservation, Fisheries Politics and Management forum - thread linked below:


 
Unfortunately, most of the issues that the majority of taxpaying Canadians will be enduring.
Fishing closures, land grabs, reconciliation.
The list goes on.
May have been avoided in the last federal election.
The genie is out of the bottle.
WAKE UP PEOPLE
 
I am still looking for an article on this case. The area that was wanted for Fraser bound Chinook is identical to the restrictions being proposed. Sickening
Case was lost but liberals are handing it over now
 
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