September Tuna run?
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Dogbreath
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Hi John-I mean the distance from the motors to the lures.
I've seen lures that close with boats running big throbbing diesels-it does draw them in-but in other places trolling from outboard powered skiffs we run lures at least 100' back and often twice as much maybe more depending.
Whether that's because the outboard powered boat doesn't have the sound appeal/underwater profile of a big diesel or because Tuna are notoriously boat shy I dunno.
It works for you Guys though that's for sure those are some gorgeous fat fish.
Regards
Carl Z
We were one of the boats out of Bamfield on Sat. Run out 48 mile and found 59 degree water but not good color went 60 or so and put down gear. Got double header in 40 min. Then got 5 of seven rods went off. Got in 4 out of 5 I lost first one in trough. My fault I didn't have gaff close enough and got him on trough hooked popped out. He sat there for what seemed a long time looking at me and me looking at him them slid back in before i made a move. I was with three green guys from Ab, did not have regular crew. Slivio was following his bride to be around looking at napkins and flowers I think. Jeff (osama) said he didn't have a clean pair of his big girl panties and couldn,t go. Anyway missed Jeff as he was the Gaff expert. Got the guys trained up after. Took 1.5 hr for the three guys to bring in the 5 header and lost the school i think. Water was strange was 60.3 when we hit them and circled back and was 57. The break line really moving more than times before. We ended up with 6 in boat. between 20 and 28 biggest. We had best luck with smaller lures than clones. I found some 4" with jets that seeemed to work well. Talked with a guy from Ballyhood and that was what he recommended for Albacore the smaller the better. Had different ones from clones to cedar plugs and jet ones hooked up more often. Anyway where we hooked up most was around 48 10 593 126 12 510. Have some pics but have to figure out how to post. Jeff get your laundry done and we will hit them week of the 12th.
Sculpin
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Nice report TunaDon. Would be great to see some pic's. We caught 2 of our 5 on the turd hootchie off the riggers which read 33 feet (probably around 17 feet lure depth). One hit a smaller jet head like you described but the biggest 37 lber hit the large outside jet head clone on the surface. How far back were you running the gear?
Osama Bin Hopper
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**** you Don!
Slivo was indeed shopping for napkins, garters and linens, but I got screwed over big time!!!
Oh well, good thing you got to look at the one that got away and experience the knowledge that it woulda been in had I been onboard...
TUNASHOOTOUT!!! SEPTEMBER 22,23,24,25
Event will be hosted out of Mills Landing with a wrap up shindig on Sunday the 25. BBQ'D TUNA!!!
All we are doing is trying to organize a base event to chase these bastards as a group. We can throw some bux into a hat for biggest fish or whatever as well. Hope to grow it to the point of prizes, entry fees, ect. At this point though, most people really don't go so not sure we could do that yet.
Anyhow, there is a solid set of dates for any skippers who have been toying with the idea. There will be at least two boats going I know!!!
**** you Don!
Slivo was indeed shopping for napkins, garters and linens, but I got screwed over big time!!!
Oh well, good thing you got to look at the one that got away and experience the knowledge that it woulda been in had I been onboard...
TUNASHOOTOUT!!! SEPTEMBER 22,23,24,25
Event will be hosted out of Mills Landing with a wrap up shindig on Sunday the 25. BBQ'D TUNA!!!
All we are doing is trying to organize a base event to chase these bastards as a group. We can throw some bux into a hat for biggest fish or whatever as well. Hope to grow it to the point of prizes, entry fees, ect. At this point though, most people really don't go so not sure we could do that yet.
Anyhow, there is a solid set of dates for any skippers who have been toying with the idea. There will be at least two boats going I know!!!
Sculpin
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Yeehaaw! Great posts Sculpin. Man I'd love to hear the sound of those islanders with an Albi attached to the end.
Yeah it was a blast for sure Highliner. At first I thought it was just like playing a scrappy spring but then realized the drag was still cranked from being in the downrigger doing 8 mph and it was still taking out a few hundred feet of line!!!
Sculpin, We ran a V pattern with center line 60' 50' off back of boat 40' midway spreader and 30' outside spreader. They were hitting all distances. Interesting reading about them being boat shy. They always tried to dive under boat when bringing in. On the downriggers I talked with commercial guy Randy at durando and he said he always wondered if they could find a way to get there lines down a few feet he felt they would have way better catch rate. I know last year when slow on the bite Slivo was playing with lines and we did hook up 100 ' back. Maybe diff later in the year, at seminar in Seattle they said they were very line shy later in year. I tied up my rigging with flouracarbon. They said some guys run floura topshot.
IronNoggin
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Possibility Buddy! I SO wanted to get out on them when they were close earlier this season, but the bookings were nutso and it wasn't in the cards.
Reports from the Commercial Gentz as of yesterday aren't all that brilliant at this point, but of course that may change...
If weather looks OK, if the fish move back in, I would strongly consider this. Will call to discuss after the Ukee Fish Off (8 rods entered!!)
Cheers,
Nog
Aces
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I'm working the 23rd and 24th.......... so i'm out
Aces
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I definately want to go to one of those too
I thought it was worth while. A guy on bloody decks tower todd said to message him anytime for info. The best thing was when they talked about bait stops and fishing on the slide. I ordered some swim baits ( 3oz lead head with a rubber tail) in July i have been waiting for, got back to Courtenay and see a mail notice so hope that is them. When you get into a big hookup you toss them over and let them free fall with your thumb on reel. When they hook up kick in drag and hang on hope your reel doesn't blow up. As this is all new to me just from reading and reports from all you guys helps in trying new ways and what works best for this area and your own boat. From what everyone says more boats around and more commotion on water will bring them up. They hold 100 to 200 ft down looking up with their giant eyes waiting to swoop in. Also will take out some anchovies to throw out and try to keep them around when find them.
Bod
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Thanks for the report and sharing of info Don and Tofinoguy. We don't get to go all that often and all the info we can gather and share and get dialed in helps. The seminars are what they are but if you gain a little bit that puts a couple more fish in the box they are well worth it. I was at one last year and will try and do it again this winter. I think we can do better by sharing our local knowlegde. When I have the time and weather permits I'll be out there again this year.
I think Slivo may be done when he say's, yes dear I WILL. Maybe Osama can get the panty thing figured out(who wear them anyway?) and get back on track. Lots of good tuna action coming for sure.
I think Slivo may be done when he say's, yes dear I WILL. Maybe Osama can get the panty thing figured out(who wear them anyway?) and get back on track. Lots of good tuna action coming for sure.
Sculpin
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We had 3 of the 5 hit the lures on the downriggers. The reading on the riggers was 33 feet so with the extreme blow back less than that by quite a bit but still down aways. I was wondering about mounting two extra downriggers so you could get 4 lines down below the surface. Seem feasible?
Also the set back on the riggers was like 9 pulls so fairly close to the boat still.
Also the set back on the riggers was like 9 pulls so fairly close to the boat still.
Just one other thing was told to keep lures near the same maybe diff color on each side till you know what they like. We had black and puple one side mex flag other when the 5 hit. They said if you had 1 looking better than others may only get that one hooking up. Was why didn't run on downrigger like last year. We also had good luck last year on downrigger but only had doubles hooking up. will try down rigger again I think next time and see if we still get top ones hooking up, don't see why not but fish don't always think like me.
Yes that my next purchase dogbreath. Here is some info from place i got some lures. they are selling them so take what you like. Some info helped me for sure
Normal trolling speed is between 7-9 mph depending on the seas. The general rule of thumb is to keep the lures as close to the boat as possible without pulling them out of the water. You will see a recognizable pattern to the lures when they are being trolled properly. Keep in mind the shape of the lure's head...we run bullet nose lures close to the boat because they have much less bounce than do other lures. Jet heads or any type of concave head (bubble makers) should be put back a little farther, out in the calmer water so that the bubbles they produce will be seen, and will in turn attract the targeted species of fish. Birds, daisy chains, or other attractors should be placed the farthest back in your pattern, or run them on the outriggers or shotgun.
If the sea is calm, or if the bite is slow I recommend speeding the boat up a bit. Keep in mind the difference in speed will require a lure pattern adjustment. Spreader bars don't have to be a hassle - our spreader bars are equipped with a ball bearing swivel in the last lure where we attach a release clip. Simply tie the spreader off to a T-Bar or cleat on the boat, then run the line from your rod through the release clip on the back of the spreader. Once you get a strike the line breaks free and you fight only the fish, not the bar too
Albacore Trolling Tips:
Albacore fishing is a bit different than normal tuna fishing. Albacore normally travel in large schools and they can be very particular about what they eat. Fishing from a still or anchored boat is not the ticket for catching albacore. They are a very active fish and move around a lot, so trolling is the preferred fishing method.
The normal boat speed for Albacore trolling is 6-10 mph. When it comes to choosing the type of lure to troll I recommend action oriented lures, like the Ballyhood Lip Ripper or Tuna “P’nut’’ are the ticket. A lure that is 3’’ to 4’’ overall length is almost exactly the size of the bait these fish prefer!
The key to great albacore lures is ‘’action oriented”. The best lures dig, jump, pop and look just like live bait skipping across the water. Our Albacore lures are attention getters! They have a concave head that causes the sporadic movement that attracts the really big fish. Most lures have to be placed very correctly behind the boat. But the great thing with the Lip Ripper and the Tuna ‘P’nut is it makes no difference where they are placed behind the boat. You can’t take the action out of these lures, like you can do with some other lures. Especially lures with a bullet shaped head. A simple trick is to cut open the first Albacore you catch and check out the size and also the color of the bait inside.
Normal trolling speed is between 7-9 mph depending on the seas. The general rule of thumb is to keep the lures as close to the boat as possible without pulling them out of the water. You will see a recognizable pattern to the lures when they are being trolled properly. Keep in mind the shape of the lure's head...we run bullet nose lures close to the boat because they have much less bounce than do other lures. Jet heads or any type of concave head (bubble makers) should be put back a little farther, out in the calmer water so that the bubbles they produce will be seen, and will in turn attract the targeted species of fish. Birds, daisy chains, or other attractors should be placed the farthest back in your pattern, or run them on the outriggers or shotgun.
If the sea is calm, or if the bite is slow I recommend speeding the boat up a bit. Keep in mind the difference in speed will require a lure pattern adjustment. Spreader bars don't have to be a hassle - our spreader bars are equipped with a ball bearing swivel in the last lure where we attach a release clip. Simply tie the spreader off to a T-Bar or cleat on the boat, then run the line from your rod through the release clip on the back of the spreader. Once you get a strike the line breaks free and you fight only the fish, not the bar too
Albacore Trolling Tips:
Albacore fishing is a bit different than normal tuna fishing. Albacore normally travel in large schools and they can be very particular about what they eat. Fishing from a still or anchored boat is not the ticket for catching albacore. They are a very active fish and move around a lot, so trolling is the preferred fishing method.
The normal boat speed for Albacore trolling is 6-10 mph. When it comes to choosing the type of lure to troll I recommend action oriented lures, like the Ballyhood Lip Ripper or Tuna “P’nut’’ are the ticket. A lure that is 3’’ to 4’’ overall length is almost exactly the size of the bait these fish prefer!
The key to great albacore lures is ‘’action oriented”. The best lures dig, jump, pop and look just like live bait skipping across the water. Our Albacore lures are attention getters! They have a concave head that causes the sporadic movement that attracts the really big fish. Most lures have to be placed very correctly behind the boat. But the great thing with the Lip Ripper and the Tuna ‘P’nut is it makes no difference where they are placed behind the boat. You can’t take the action out of these lures, like you can do with some other lures. Especially lures with a bullet shaped head. A simple trick is to cut open the first Albacore you catch and check out the size and also the color of the bait inside.
Dogbreath
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Sounds good Don!
In terms of buying the more exotic stuff I've had good service from Angler's Center in San Diego-they'll ship USPS which is somewhat cheaper than UPS/Fedex & the like.
http://www.anglerscenter.com/
In terms of buying the more exotic stuff I've had good service from Angler's Center in San Diego-they'll ship USPS which is somewhat cheaper than UPS/Fedex & the like.
http://www.anglerscenter.com/
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