salmon fishing

[JayDee]

I moved to White Rock From Shawnigan Lake from Toronto. In Ontario I made bamboo fly rods and did a lot of fly fishing for trout and bass. Had a 16 foot boat on the island and did a lot of downrigger fishing but sold the boat - too small for White Rock!!! This summer a buddy has asked me and two other buddies to come with him on his 42 footer for two months of cruising to Juneau and back, The problem is he's not a fisherman and has no equipment on his boat other than a small Zodiac tender. I have several fly rods, two nice salmon rods and reels, a steelhead rod & reel, a halibut rod & reel and two bass spin casting rods - one light tackle and one medium tackle. I also have four apinning reels. After reading your communication(s), I have some questions I hope you can help with.

jimbob - how fast were you going with the 2 oz wgt & the coyote spoons?

kronic_fishguy - what style & size(s) of JetDivers were you using?

kelly - what is a "big bucktail" and where might I buiy some? Also, what baits were you casting?

Comment: I have all sorts or flys for trout and salmon. I also have bass flies. If you don't know what a Bass fly is I'll try to obtain pictures to post but I'm technically challenged with computers, etc., so it might take a while. Bass flies are not unlike small, light bucktails but made to imitate, eels, dragonflies, small mice, and all sorts of other multicoloured 2-1/2" to 4" long creepy crawlies. They sure worked fine with a light wgt fly rod.

Thanks for any and all help.

 

[Charter Tofino]

A big bucktail is essentially just a large streamer fly and they come in a variety of colors.

My best advice is go to a local tackle shop that deals in saltwater gear and they can set you up and give you alot of info. Also i would hire a guide and see how its all done. Often the best 500$ you can spend when starting out.

 

[JayDee]

Thanks. I took golf lessons for the same reason. Worked out well.

 

[tofinofish]

Jaydee,

We have a fair bit of experience regarding the Bucktail details and fishery. I'm glad to help you with info.
We stock a pretty good selection of generic and custom Bucktails and Saltwater flies in our Fly & Tackle shop in Tofino if you need to source any.

Shoot me an e-mail if you want some more help.

Tofinofish

 

[JayDee]

Thanks for your kind offer. I've been told that in my area, Berry's Bait & Tackle can help me. I'll be visiting them in the next week or so. Best regards.

 

[Cuba Libre]

Um Bob-- which country are we talking about? Staging right now, waiting for rain? I think not!

I dont know what to make of your post...............

20ft Alumaweld Intruder

 

[Cuba Libre]

Um Bob-- which country are we talking about? Staging right now, waiting for rain? I think not!

I dont know what to make of your post...............

20ft Alumaweld Intruder

 

[happy hooker]

quote:Originally posted by bob456

Start fishing off the piers around the rivers where they will be coming. Right now they are staging and waiting for the fall rains to raise the water levels. They come very close to shore between about 1am and 2 hours after sunrise (extended on cloudy days). As the season moves on, they will spend more time close to shore, and eventually move up the rivers. Now is the best time to catch them for food because they haven't gone into spawning mode yet, so most of them are still silver in colour "Chromers". Once they turn black brown and green, they taste nasty, but good to give to your trapper friend if you have one.Also try big suspending crakbaits like Rapala X-Raps. They like a slow wobble. They seem to be very attracted to spinners but in my experience they seem tro hesitate and not bite at the last minute. I have caught a couple on #4 Blue Fox vibrax, with pink body and silver blade. You can try roe sacs (salmon eggs) with some floatation in there, and let them sit a 2 or 3 feet off the bottom, but that bait will work better as the season progresses.
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22' Hewescraft Searunner

 

[happy hooker]

quote:Originally posted by bob456

Start fishing off the piers around the rivers where they will be coming. Right now they are staging and waiting for the fall rains to raise the water levels. They come very close to shore between about 1am and 2 hours after sunrise (extended on cloudy days). As the season moves on, they will spend more time close to shore, and eventually move up the rivers. Now is the best time to catch them for food because they haven't gone into spawning mode yet, so most of them are still silver in colour "Chromers". Once they turn black brown and green, they taste nasty, but good to give to your trapper friend if you have one.Also try big suspending crakbaits like Rapala X-Raps. They like a slow wobble. They seem to be very attracted to spinners but in my experience they seem tro hesitate and not bite at the last minute. I have caught a couple on #4 Blue Fox vibrax, with pink body and silver blade. You can try roe sacs (salmon eggs) with some floatation in there, and let them sit a 2 or 3 feet off the bottom, but that bait will work better as the season progresses.
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www.bassflystore.com

LMFAO!!!!!

22' Hewescraft Searunner

 

[JayDee]

i'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT EXPRESSION BUT CAN GUESS IT'S INTENT. IS IT ANYTHING LIKE FUBAR?

 

[JayDee]

i'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT EXPRESSION BUT CAN GUESS IT'S INTENT. IS IT ANYTHING LIKE FUBAR?

 

[JayDee]

Cuba Libre. I must admit I was somewhat confused By BOB56's reply given the info on my expected situation.

 

[JayDee]

Cuba Libre. I must admit I was somewhat confused By BOB56's reply given the info on my expected situation.

 

[Pippen]

quote:Originally posted by Cuba Libre

Um Bob-- which country are we talking about? Staging right now, waiting for rain? I think not!

I dont know what to make of your post...............

That makes 2 of us, but let me take a stab at deciphering the aforementioned salmon info for ya Cuba.

Right about now in mid to late January,the PACIFIC salmon are stacking up in front of the rivers up and down the BC coast to finish their epic journey and their fantastic circle of existence. They stack up a short cast from piers near rivers generally, just after the New Year waiting for the fall rains to come in October or November. They come in close to shore in the saltwater just after midnight no matter what the tide is doing and they spend more and more time close to shore as October and November come closer so they can start their run up the rivers to spawn and turn brown and ugly. This is when they lose their lovely "chrome" colour and really only become good table fare for trappers. Using crank baits are good to use if you are not chasing largemouth bass in Louisiana and the spinners don't catch too many fish due to their hesitation to strike at the last minute whereas they love Rapala baits cuz they do strike at the last minute.


Howzat?!?!

I think I am going to submit this to Wikipedia in "How to Catch Salmon". As I did grow up in Manitoba I am wondering if this is closer to the spawning patterns/life cycle of the fabled Lake Winnipeg Salmon?

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[Pippen]

quote:Originally posted by Cuba Libre

Um Bob-- which country are we talking about? Staging right now, waiting for rain? I think not!

I dont know what to make of your post...............

That makes 2 of us, but let me take a stab at deciphering the aforementioned salmon info for ya Cuba.

Right about now in mid to late January,the PACIFIC salmon are stacking up in front of the rivers up and down the BC coast to finish their epic journey and their fantastic circle of existence. They stack up a short cast from piers near rivers generally, just after the New Year waiting for the fall rains to come in October or November. They come in close to shore in the saltwater just after midnight no matter what the tide is doing and they spend more and more time close to shore as October and November come closer so they can start their run up the rivers to spawn and turn brown and ugly. This is when they lose their lovely "chrome" colour and really only become good table fare for trappers. Using crank baits are good to use if you are not chasing largemouth bass in Louisiana and the spinners don't catch too many fish due to their hesitation to strike at the last minute whereas they love Rapala baits cuz they do strike at the last minute.


Howzat?!?!

I think I am going to submit this to Wikipedia in "How to Catch Salmon". As I did grow up in Manitoba I am wondering if this is closer to the spawning patterns/life cycle of the fabled Lake Winnipeg Salmon?

[]

 

[Pippen]

quote:Originally posted by JayDee

i'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT EXPRESSION BUT CAN GUESS IT'S INTENT. IS IT ANYTHING LIKE FUBAR?

Sorta......LMFAO

Laughing
My
Frickin', Farkin'or any other "F" word you may find suitable to insert.
Arse, butt
Off

 

[Pippen]

quote:Originally posted by JayDee

i'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT EXPRESSION BUT CAN GUESS IT'S INTENT. IS IT ANYTHING LIKE FUBAR?

Sorta......LMFAO

Laughing
My
Frickin', Farkin'or any other "F" word you may find suitable to insert.
Arse, butt
Off

 

[Tofinoguy]

quote:Originally posted by bob456

Start fishing off the piers around the rivers where they will be coming. Right now they are staging and waiting for the fall rains to raise the water levels. They come very close to shore between about 1am and 2 hours after sunrise (extended on cloudy days). As the season moves on, they will spend more time close to shore, and eventually move up the rivers. Now is the best time to catch them for food because they haven't gone into spawning mode yet, so most of them are still silver in colour "Chromers". Once they turn black brown and green, they taste nasty, but good to give to your trapper friend if you have one.Also try big suspending crakbaits like Rapala X-Raps. They like a slow wobble. They seem to be very attracted to spinners but in my experience they seem tro hesitate and not bite at the last minute. I have caught a couple on #4 Blue Fox vibrax, with pink body and silver blade. You can try roe sacs (salmon eggs) with some floatation in there, and let them sit a 2 or 3 feet off the bottom, but that bait will work better as the season progresses.
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[Tofinoguy]

quote:Originally posted by bob456

Start fishing off the piers around the rivers where they will be coming. Right now they are staging and waiting for the fall rains to raise the water levels. They come very close to shore between about 1am and 2 hours after sunrise (extended on cloudy days). As the season moves on, they will spend more time close to shore, and eventually move up the rivers. Now is the best time to catch them for food because they haven't gone into spawning mode yet, so most of them are still silver in colour "Chromers". Once they turn black brown and green, they taste nasty, but good to give to your trapper friend if you have one.Also try big suspending crakbaits like Rapala X-Raps. They like a slow wobble. They seem to be very attracted to spinners but in my experience they seem tro hesitate and not bite at the last minute. I have caught a couple on #4 Blue Fox vibrax, with pink body and silver blade. You can try roe sacs (salmon eggs) with some floatation in there, and let them sit a 2 or 3 feet off the bottom, but that bait will work better as the season progresses.
____________________
www.bassflystore.com

See!! You learn something new everyday!! []

 

[Pippen]

Whoops...."edit" vs "reply" error on my part. [:I]